TIL about the "Davy Crockett" M-29 portable nuclear warhead mortar gun, made in the 1950s

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[–]magnora7[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

This article basically makes it look like all portable nuclear weapon development stopped in the 1950s... I have to wonder what they've developed in the 60 years since then.

The only other wiki article I could find about portable nuclear weapons that is newer, is this one: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suitcase_nuclear_device

Is that the newest one on wikipedia? Most of that info is like 40 years old.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Also, I know a EOD NCO the 90's who told me about backpack nukes that were designed for SF one-way missions.

He enjoyed his cocktails and got quite emotional telling me about how the govt will betray you, and doesn't care about the troops (which is 100% true), etc.
His main issue was Clinton downsized the military and he was cut during his 15th year of service (5 before retirement), but he'd always start with the nukes story.

Obviously, the teams that trained with these packs never tested/detonated with them. Who's to say what was actually in them.

IDK.

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    [–]magnora7[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Yeah I read that as well. I don't believe it for a second. They say they're afraid of the technology being captured and the bomb stopped and reverse-engineered. Doesn't really make sense to me, tbh.

    Kind of like cloning, everyone was talking about that in the late 90s, but now you never hear a word about cloning, probably because they've got it working to a degree they're doing creepy misdeeds with it they're trying to cover up. I would imagine similar things are happening with small nukes.

    [–]Tom_Bombadil 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

    I'm starting to wonder if nukes are fake. Seriously.

    The perfect tool to keep the US and USSR seperated during a grand political experiment.

    Nuke tech was supposedly shared by the US to the Soviets.

    Take a fresh look at Hiroshima. It looks like a wooden and paper city that was burned to Ash. No epicenter. No discernable blast radius. No piled up debris. Nada.

    Except the only remaining structures in the entire city were built of brick and Stone. The remnants of those structures still stand.

    And the bridges, again concrete/stone.

    https://www.startpage.com/do/dsearch?query=Hiroshima+images&cat=web&pl=opensearch

    We've recently seen photos of mushroom clouds formed by thermobaric bombs.

    I read about an army major who was fired for reporting no evidence of radiation, as well as a journalist who was fired and disgraced. Maybe these guys didn't get the memo.

    It wouldn't be the first WW2 Hoax...

    I could be 100% wrong thought. Looks like a fire to me...

    Decide for yourselves.

    Edit: If anyone finds compelling photos then please look to them. I'm just suspicious about the evidence presented. Just saying..

    Edit 2: Given these Davy crockets could easily be palaced on a fighter jets, if really doesn't make sense. Unless it was a mistake that could have blown the experiment.

    [–]magnora7[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    Nukes are real or else nuclear power plants wouldn't exist.

    They can measure the huge areas of radiation in the cities bombed. You can go measure it yourself with a Geiger counter.

    Where do you think all the Fukushima radiation is coming from if human-controlled nuclear fission doesn't exist?

    It's an interesting idea but doesn't stand up to scrutiny imo.

    [–]Tom_Bombadil 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    I've also considered these and they seem reasonable, but aren't bulletproof.

    Nukes are real or else nuclear power plants wouldn't exist.

    Logical fallacy. Power plants could\can exist with out the possibility of critical mass detonations. Alternate suppressed technologies cloud be used. Neuclear material is as rare as gold, so an agreement could have been made that we'll give you piles of this rare useful material.. It just needs to boil water.

    They can measure the huge areas of radiation in the cities bombed. You can go measure it yourself with a Geiger counter.

    Radiation can be measured in Fukoshima w/o a critical mass detonation.

    Where do you think all the Fukushima radiation is coming from if human-controlled nuclear fission doesn't exist?

    I'm not claiming that fission and radiation doesn't exist. I'm not even claiming that nukes don't exist.

    It's an interesting idea but doesn't stand up to scrutiny imo.

    I'm no so certain.

    On a related tangent, I'm in the process of looking into another interesting idea. The gist of it is that radioactive materials may be less dangerous then initially claimed.
    The real risk is the result of larger atoms can absorb higher energy particles (cosmic rays, etc.) which normally would pass through the body.

    It was mentioned on "Unwelcomed Guests", so i have a couple of hundred (750 total) of 2-hour episodes to listen through to find the source.
    /u/Robin any chance you could point me in the right direction?

    Either way, there's no reason to avoid mentioning these ideas.

    There shouldn't be limits on hypothetical academic questioning/discussion (the devil is in the experiments). ;-)

    [–]magnora7[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Power plants could\can exist with out the possibility of critical mass detonations.

    But mass detonations are far easier, so it makes senses they developed those first.

    Radiation can be measured in Fukoshima w/o a critical mass detonation.

    Yes but it still requires nuclear fission, which is the same processed used to detonate nuclear bombs.

    It's like trying to say grenades exist, but TNT doesn't. It just doesn't make sense.