Feeling *actual depression* from the loss of r/TiA

submitted by Pure_Aeternus from self.TumblrInAction

I know this is the most stereotypically Reddit thing to say, but I'm honestly devastated so much of my life's work got deleted yesterday and I'll never be able to see it again. I used to post semi-frequently on TiA (you may remember me as PuerAeternis – my flair was 'Nonbinary Going Their Own Way') and I was legitimately proud of my critiques of social justice. Being a former SJW, I felt that I was (and still am) uniquely qualified to comment on their insanity, given how much I'm able to empathize with the people I'm criticizing.

And comment I most certainly did. Towards the end, I used automated tools to archive the things that I posted, but the archive did not include comments, many of which were essay-length rants like this one, which I put a great deal of thought into. If a thing like that got even one upvote, I would be legitimately proud of it. In hindsight, I was a lot more proud of the things that I said than the threads that I started.

The lesson to be learned from all this? Back up your shit (that one is obvious). But perhaps more importantly: don't pour your heart and soul into social media posts that can and will get deleted for stupid reasons.

You'd think maybe this would have provided the impetus for me to start putting effort into things that have a longer lasting impact. Like maybe I should spend more time writing books? But what happened to TiA is an unwelcome reminder that all things that you put your time and effort into will be lost, destroyed, deleted or forgotten about at some point or other. And right now, I'm struggling to find the motivation to do anything. Even though I hadn't posted on TiA in a while, those other things will eventually go the same way. Besides, the publishing industry is full of woke assholes. And self-publishing is run by the same kind of tech giants (Amazon) who deplatform people, sooo...

I dunno, I'll get over it eventually. But this has been the latest in a long series of realisations that the things I enjoy are dominated by the people I hate. If was just Reddit, or just one or two genres of publishing, I could ignore them and move on. But with the way things are, I can see myself being trapped in this thought pattern for a while. And when I described it to my dad, he said it sounded like depression.

What do you think? Is it even worth trying to rebuild what we had on r/TiA? And if not, then what is?

(It has also not escaped my notice that the Reddit admins are pushing me, an autistic queer, into a state of mental illness. But that's to be expected.)

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[–]Lionhime 38 insightful - 3 fun38 insightful - 2 fun39 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

Hey, what’s important is not the posts themselves. It’s the impact you had on other people by writing them, right? We all contributed an island of sanity in a sea of authoritarian bullshit.

TiA gave me strength to take my feelings of discomfort about gender ideology seriously. It helped me realize there’s another option outside of keeping your gender or choosing a new one: not subscribing to the idea of gender. I’m female and that’s it.

And who knows, maybe a few TiA outsiders questioned their beliefs. The discussion never stops. It has to keep going.

[–]Pure_Aeternus[S] 15 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 0 fun16 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You're goddamn right. And yeah, I don't want to take away from the number of people who read my posts or found them interesting or useful in some way. But at the same time, I'd kinda like to have both.

And for anyone else who'll find it useful, another user has pointed me to a recovery tool that works on deleted comments: https://camas.unddit.com

Unlike Reveddit, this one actually works and is amazing. It recovered all 2679 of my comments, which is an embarrassingly large number of words. But I'm just so happy to have them back!

Okay, I definitely need to touch grass right about now. But not before saving those comments into a format more convenient for archiving.

[–]Wherewerethespiders 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

"TiA gave me strength to take my feelings of discomfort about gender ideology seriously."

I feel this so hard.

[–]1-800-FUCKOFF 20 insightful - 7 fun20 insightful - 6 fun21 insightful - 7 fun -  (39 children)

I want to like this place, but the UI is hard to enjoy on mobile. Everything almost works but doesn't quite. It's like reddit's retarded brother.

[–]AXXA🙏🏿 12 insightful - 3 fun12 insightful - 2 fun13 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

there's UI alternatives at https://saidit.net/ and https://saidit.net/.compact and https://saidit.net/.m

[–]RuinedSpiral 11 insightful - 3 fun11 insightful - 2 fun12 insightful - 3 fun -  (36 children)

Doesn’t help that there was legit holocaust denial shit on the front page when I was browsing through this morning.

[–][deleted] 17 insightful - 2 fun17 insightful - 1 fun18 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

legit holocaust denial shit

You're here because what you think can't be said on a mainstream platform. Any dissent about transgenderism is quashed. It is labeled hate speech. Deja vu.

Specifically, why is it not okay to ban critical discussion of transgenderism, but it is okay for the Holocaust? I'm not a fan, at all, of forbidden topics or words personally.

[–]1-800-FUCKOFF 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

That's a relativistic and retarded stance. It's not that it's a forbidden topic, it's that it's so god damn stupid that I'd rather just not have to scroll through that kinda shit if I can help it. And no, I'm not afraud to sit down and debate the size of the ovens in Nazi Germany; that's just not what I'm here for.

[–]beerghal 14 insightful - 3 fun14 insightful - 2 fun15 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Off topic, but its such a relief to hear people use "retarded" so liberally

[–][deleted] 9 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

that's just not what I'm here for.

Neither am I. Frankly the talk about jews here bores me to tears. It is however very interesting to me the parallels between people who question the Holocaust, who question transgenderism, and who question the covid vaccine. In each case there's compelling evidence that's not easily dismissed, so instead discussion is suppressed. As you're experiencing now.

relativistic

What's relativistic about anything I wrote. It's rather absolute. Freedom of speech doesn't work when you don't allow what you don't like.

retarded stance it's so god damn stupid

What's retarded about it? I used to think that too because that's what I was taught. That's how transgenderism is going to be if they win, one day everyone will just know questioning it is stupid.

It's not that it's a forbidden topic,

It really is, that's why they have to discuss it in places like this.

[–]SMCAB 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Nobody gives a fuck what YOU are here for. Which you've made clear is to say, "What I like is okay, what I don't like is bad."

You're calling people retarded? How rich.

[–]gameboi_playboiincel rights activist 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

if I can help it

You CAN help it just bookmark this sub instead of the front page, i literally havent seen the front page of this site except the one time i was redirected there after creating my account

You going to the front page is your own damn choice lol don't be playing victim card here now when thats exactly the behavior that we liked to laugh at the whole time

[–]SMCAB 11 insightful - 4 fun11 insightful - 3 fun12 insightful - 4 fun -  (15 children)

I'm having a hard time wondering how you have the audacity to be on this website, that champions the very thing you and your reddit cohorts here seem to be against, which is anti-censorship, and then turn around and say what you just said. It screams of child like thinking, and you can say whatever you please, but what you think you're fighting for protects whatever anyone pleases to post on the front page of this place, whether your sissy ass sensibilities like it or not. Grow up. You may call yourself a woke hating leftist, and if that's the case, then act like one, oh wait, you already are. A leftist is a leftist after all.

[–]1-800-FUCKOFF 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

I have a hard time picturing a scenario where a post on here that is tinted with holocaust denial is on-topic on a board meant to be about stupid social justice trends...

Big case of "sir this is a Wendys". You want to let the racism and antisemitism out, /pol/'s right around the corner...

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    [–]soundsituation 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Yes. It's time for self-styled liberals to re-embrace the actual liberal value of tolerance: if you don't like it, don't read it. Or debate it. You are free to do that here. Or click the 'hide' button under the post, or block the user or mute the sub. Users are also free to do those things here.

    [–]SMCAB 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    The thread wasn't on this board genius. Get a clue. Go back up and read it again, this time with a basic understanding of English.

    I'll say whatever I want, to whomever I want, whenever I want, on any board I want, online or otherwise. And you'll do nothing about it, and whatever you say about it won't matter. Get fucked.

    What I said was on topic to the comment made on this board. You reddit homos aren't going to like it here, because you can't make me shut up, you can't wipe my username, you can't downvote me to oblivion, as if that would matter to me at all, and until the rest of you faggots get here, you won't be the majority either.

    Take your labels and get in the sandbox with the rest of your crybaby ilk. Remember to pull the diapers back up after you piss.

    [–]soundsituation 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    I don't see any posts on this subsaidit about the holocaust. I think you must have been browsing another sub or the forum at large.

    [–]Airbus320 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    Ok boomer

    [–]DimDroog 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Okay, I don't like it either, but at the same time I do not want to see speech that I hate banned.

    It IS a slippery slope when you start telling people what they can and cannot say and think.

    [–]jacques1102 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

    Not OP,but i'm centrist,i have to ask you how holocaust denial will make us look good?All you'd be doing is giving the left ammunition that the people who think a man can't be a woman also deny a historical event that happened.That's literally going to give normal people on the fence a reason to side with the left and not us.

    [–]SMCAB 10 insightful - 3 fun10 insightful - 2 fun11 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

    Nothing is off limits, that's what free speech means. Fuck the left, fuck the right, and fuck anyone that wants to remove one more ounce of my liberty.

    You are no authority on the holocaust, and you obviously have zero concept of what those people believe, and why they believe it.

    I for one don't care what I look like to anyone, that's the problem, people suppressing truth because they care about their stats with strangers, and they have been conformed to shut up because of shaming and propaganda.

    Not everything is what it seems, and you are very clearly a normie to dismiss something, that if you gave it a second of your own thought you just might come to a different conclusion. You just see it differently, and that's okay, so does a denier, and that's okay too. You don't make my rules. I make my own.

    The left doesn't need ammunition, they are still spending all they have into their own foot.

    [–]DimDroog 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    I feel the same way.

    A long time ago, the ACLU defended the right of the KKK to have a parade. They also had a Jewish lawyer who fought for them.

    I like that.

    Either you're for the First Amendment, or you're not.

    It frightens me when people talk about censorship.

    [–]jacques1102 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    Bro what reason would someone have to deny the holocaust other then to try and make the nazis look like innocent victims, and trying to get people to prove a giant conspiracy?You do know the same people that deny the holocaust also believe in the Illuminati,our government running satanic rituals,blood libel,and other batshit crazy stuff?Explain to me how that in any way makes us look like the rational sane side?

    [–]SMCAB 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    Bro what reason would someone have to deny the holocaust other then to try and make the nazis look like innocent victims

    Wow, one can't exist without the other? This is your first example of 11 year old thinking. And I'm not your fucking bro. Reddit fag.

    You do know the same people that deny the holocaust also believe in the Illuminati,our government running satanic rituals,blood libel,and other batshit crazy stuff?

    Wow, second example of your 11 year old thinking. Pretty broad brush there Rembrandt. Reddit fag.

    Explain to me how that in any way makes us look like the rational sane side?

    I will explain to you, since you clearly can't read with comprehension, that this argument has nothing to do with the holocaust, and everything to do with censorship. Since you can't even figure that out, you're probably not worth explaining anything else to. Reddit fag.

    You mentioned above you're outta here. Don't wait, just do it now. You're a reddit fag and won't make it here. Too soft and too childlike to hang with adults. You've shown your ass, time to hoist your pull-ups back up.

    [–]RuinedSpiral 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    Well said. Not only is it just, you know, wrong on so many levels, it’s also terrible optics.

    [–]jacques1102 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    It is terrible optics and it's why i'm going to miss SJIA and TIA because at least the people there kept the post in the realms of reality.If this place starts talking crazy far right conspiracies like holocaust denial,government satanic rituals,illuminati,or any other crazy stuff,i'm out.

    [–]RuinedSpiral 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Agreed, and then I’ll feel really bad. Unfortunately I feel like it’s the direction it’s going to go.

    [–]CanisRexbiologically successful 9 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

    well...you have legit holodomor denial shit topping the front page at reddit. Its a trade off, I suppose.

    [–]GrilledTofuIdentifying as a block of tofu 9 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

    So Reddit claims to support Ukaranians and yet denies the biggest man-made famine that was inflicted upon them? How shallow does that performative action go?

    [–]CanisRexbiologically successful 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    Recognizing hypocrisy, irony, doublethink isn't really high on the list of skills that front page redditors possess.

    [–]RuinedSpiral 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Yeah, I mean ideally there’d be neither anywhere. Or maybe it wouldn’t be banned but at least downvoted to hell, which really can’t happen here.

    [–]Cass 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    Same people who allow them to talk about the Holocaust allow you to talk about how men can't turn into women.

    edit: and remember that depending where you live society IRL will condemn you worse for denying gender cultists than for denying the Holocaust, so

    [–]1-800-FUCKOFF 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    Yeah... That and... A big chunk of the crowd of retards that were sort of under control on reddit that just love using slurs followed over. I could do without the edgy 17-year-olds that use "based" as sole qualifier for anything they like and can't discuss trans bullshit without calling them trannies...

    [–]Airbus320 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    13 50

    [–]Objecting_Sphere 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    Spin-off or alternative websites always have more radicals on them, because they leave mainstream sites when they get banned there. Now that TIA was banned, hopefully enough people will come over and drown out the, shall we say, less sensible ideas.

    [–]RuinedSpiral 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    I would love for that to happen but I’m not sure. I know I’ve been spending a lot more time here since the ban but I don’t know how long that will last, not only because of the content I don’t like, but also because of the lack of content in general. There is very little here, and what is here isn’t often that good.

    [–]Objecting_Sphere 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Well I'm still here! We'll see how it lasts.

    [–]LordoftheFliesAmeri-kin 2.0. Pronouns: MegaWhite/SuperStraight/UltraPatriarchy 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

    It's kind of fucked up that it's even a question to be asked, but was the denial from the white supremacists, the black ones, or the woke ones?

    [–]RuinedSpiral 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    White, I believe. Didn’t get that great of a look, though.

    [–]Sentinell 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    Denial of all the genocides of any communist regime is a daily event and isn't punished at all.

    And never forget that it took a revolt of many subs for reddit to fire and actual pedophile admin.

    [–]RuinedSpiral 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    That’s the thing, denying genocides by despotic regimes of any sort took place probably should be punished, or at least heavily frowned upon.

    [–]IridescentAnaconda 17 insightful - 1 fun17 insightful - 0 fun18 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    I spent more time on r/TiA and r/SJiA than I should have in retrospect (even though it was semi-fun). This event has reminded me to that I need to touch grass more than I already do.

    [–]meisthebigdumbTransracial BlackX Rockgender Bispecies 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Yeah same, now I just talk shit about sjws in real life 😀

    [–]SMCAB 11 insightful - 7 fun11 insightful - 6 fun12 insightful - 7 fun -  (0 children)

    You're right, that was an incredibly reddit thing to say.

    If you're feeling actual depression from this action, and if your "life's work" consisted of posts on a trannie website, something tells me your favorite sub on a faggot website going down is the least of your issues.

    For fucks sake.

    [–]r2d2_21 13 insightful - 2 fun13 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

    The very reason I joined Reddit in the first place was because of TumblrInAction. And now that it's gone, my Reddit feed feels quite empty tbh.

    But I still think it's not important enough to base my life around it. At the end of the day, the disappearance of TIA won't make me stop thinking that “trans” is a mental illness and that it should be handled as such.

    Now, for your question in the end:

    What do you think? Is it even worth trying to rebuild what we had on r/TiA? And if not, then what is?

    Ask yourself: why did you contribute to TIA? Was it to call out the craziness for what it is? Or was it to have lots of posts with lots of upvotes?

    The way I see it, in a perfect world, places such as TIA wouldn't exist, because stuff such as men swimming in women's competitions would be absurd and would never happen.

    I don't think “rebuilding what we had on TIA” should be the goal, any more than actually fighting for (true) social justice.

    [–]Pure_Aeternus[S] 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Ask yourself: why did you contribute to TIA? Was it to call out the craziness for what it is? Or was it to have lots of posts with lots of upvotes?

    Vindication, mostly.

    Back when I started on TiA, I saw a lot of folks attacking social justice, but not enough of them seemed to be attacking it from the left, or from the point of view of someone who wants social justice but without the insanity.

    As someone who still held onto some SJW and lefty beliefs, I wanted to be able to represent this viewpoint in discussions, and receive some kind of proof that this was an acceptable point of view to have. So it meant a lot to me that someone – a complete stranger – would click the button to indicate they agree. Beyond that, it didn't really matter if my posts/comments got 2 upvotes or 200. If anything, I found it quite embarrassing to get hundreds of upvotes for something.

    These days, I'm not as left-wing as I used to be, but I've become a bit more confident in my beliefs. Still, I can't help but feel even more alone with said beliefs than I ever was before. After all, it's not as if I can discuss these things offline with people.

    [–]LyingSpirit472 13 insightful - 2 fun13 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    Never forget: Even if the other side has seemed to win, the second you give up trying to stop them you LET them win.

    Just look at how people on Reddit are NOT HAPPY about this decision. If anything says "we didn't lose, we just ran out of time on the clock!", that does.

    [–]HatmanLiterally Hatler 12 insightful - 3 fun12 insightful - 2 fun13 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

    Story time with Hatler.

    When I was running r/KotakuInAction, I put way too much of myself into it. I thought that was my purpose, and sure enough, my life revolved around my position as a moderator. It ended up almost fucking me, in the end. I came close to failing out of college. I was taking time out of my vacation in order to solve problems for the subreddit. Lost sleep, etc. It was an unhealthy addiction to feeling valuable to the community. It was something I desperately needed. It really was like a drug. But I nonetheless figured out that it was unhealthy for me, and walked away before I could do any lasting damage to myself.

    In walking away, I felt like I had wasted a year of my life. It was painful, especially considering I felt like I was the one who fucked things up in the end. But really, I learned something valuable: It's not a waste of time if you enjoyed doing it, and if others got something good out of it. Even if it's just one person, at least someone thought that the effort you spent was worthwhile. I put eight years into r/TumblrInAction, and seeing it come crashing down in a day was sad. Depressing, even. And more depressing to see people celebrating its demise. But I still saw so many people mourning the loss, saying what TiA meant to them, giving thanks for the time that we did have, and it definitely softened the blow. It made the time spent feel worthwhile. And the fact is, if it really didn't have the impact that it did, none of us would be here, on an alternative platform, saying the things we're saying now. And that's not my achievement—that's all of yours. You guys made TiA what it was.

    Without that community of almost 500,000 people, we wouldn't have even made it to a ban (for better or worse, lol). Yes, it's sad that it's gone, and that those achievements have been wiped away in a single stroke, but they weren't all for nothing. They brought us here, back together. That's something.

    [–]GrilledTofuIdentifying as a block of tofu 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Hatty, thank you for making one of the last bastions of sanity on Reddit and maintaining it all these years. Rebuilding will take time, but the community will try

    [–]brimshaeBased Woodchipper Merchant 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    I... walked away before I could do any lasting damage to myself.

    >_>

    [–]HatmanLiterally Hatler 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    Hey, at least I didn't become like that one GamerGhazi mod.

    [–]GrilledTofuIdentifying as a block of tofu 12 insightful - 2 fun12 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

    Besides, the publishing industry is full of woke assholes. And self-publishing is run by the same kind of tech giants (Amazon) who deplatform people, sooo...

    I feel this because I was coming to grips that I don't have the right skin colour (east asian a.k.a not melanin enough), sexuality (cis), religion (Christian), or chromosomes (XX) to be the next trendy thing in the publishing world. And Amazon doesn't even send money over to where I live (Non American). Other than hosting my own website, there's very little chance for me to get anywhere (original works anyway. My fanfiction is doing well)

    I have complained similarly to my animator friend. And this is what he tells me: keep practicing. It takes a long time to build any skill, especially as a writer. If you don't train now you won't be able to stand in the spotlight when the pendulum swings back.

    In the meantime, I highly recommend you to visit The Story Grid for guides on how to write good stories and not the current year garbo.

    About social media, yeah it really really sucks when the community you've built for so long just kerpoofs for stupid reasons and by stupid people. Real life isn't better either for many areas. I can't answer you how to get around this issue yet. but, I can encourage you to keep sharpening your skills for the future even if it makes zero fucking sense in the current moment. At the very least it prevents you from spiralling down the social media depression hole.

    [–]hfxB0oyADon't piss on my head & tell me it's raining. 6 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

    Good advice from your animator friend. People won't be able to use wokeness as an excuse for poor work forever. The same people who tell you that you're too privileged are also the ones who complain the loudest when their coffee is cold or their Amazon order took a couple of extra days to get to them. Merit still counts, and people are starting to realize that again, now that things are starting to get shittier. Keep at it!

    [–]GrilledTofuIdentifying as a block of tofu 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    Thank you for the encouragement!

    [–]SJCringe 10 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    What do you think? Is it even worth trying to rebuild what we had on r/TiA?

    Please try. I need a place to vent about woke culture.

    [–][deleted] 7 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

    I am reminded of the wisdom of my father and his father before him. "If you think you're sad now, I'll give you something to be sad about." Not that I appreciated it at the time, but there's logic to it. Things can always be worse. We can worry and fret over what is bad and wrong, or we can be happy for what's good. Too many people fall into a negativity trap.

    Monty Python said it better.

    What do you think? Is it even worth trying to rebuild what we had on r/TiA? And if not, then what is?

    The message is important. You, me, everyone, we have to keep trying to bring some goddamned sense back to people. I don't think that platform needs to be tied to Tumblr necessarily.

    [–]Newzok 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Keep it up, man. Hope we can get this place going, if only a little bit. I've found this place surprisingly civil. All the other reddit clones are /pol/-tier rightoid stuff which, while I'm OK with free speech, is usually pretty retarded and uninteresting.

    It's a pet peeve of mine and it seems like a lot of the alternative platforms lean this way. Maybe it's a conscious effort in order to lend legitimacy to the big tech platforms.

    [–]RippoffOfLove 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    As much as I despise Amazon, I seem to recall several books that they refused to pull from the store despite employees protesting their inclusion. Your mileage may vary.

    [–]Cass 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    I mostly used TIA as a sanity check and support group so it'd be nice if it continued here. I think when you hold opinions that are against the mainstream it's important to find like minded people, so you don't feel like you're the crazy one.

    [–][deleted] 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

    There used to be a way to archive banned subs, but idk if that guy or the API he used are still around.

    [–]RedPillDessert 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

    Pushshift and the user u/cqtz might help from my knowledge.

    [–]cqtzDon't censor my username 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

    There was a reddit html archiver by /u/d3rr that uses data from Pushshift. I've never used it before though.

    By the way, hi RedPillDessert. I recognize your name from Reddit.

    [–]RedPillDessert 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

    Unfortunately, d3rr has deleted his account here :( Perhaps u/Pure_Aeternus can ask d3rr on Reddit to see if he can retrieve his messages easily.

    By the way, hi RedPillDessert. I recognize your name from Reddit.

    Heya. I'm probably most well known for certain infographics and for creating the WhitePillCafe sub (RIP). I'm now banned on Reddit sadly despite adhering to the rules pretty well. Mostly hang out on the http://rdrama.net site.

    [–]Pure_Aeternus[S] 6 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

    Someone told me about this tool that works entirely in-browser and literally recovered everything I ever posted on that account. I cannot believe how well this works. I'm actually a little worried I might wake up and realise it was a dream. But leaving the link here in case anyone else finds it useful:

    https://camas.unddit.com/

    [–]RedPillDessert 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    Oh that's great to hear! Glad you recovered most or maybe all your stuff!

    [–]cqtzDon't censor my username 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

    Perhaps u/Pure_Aeternus can ask d3rr on Reddit to see if he can retrieve his messages easily.

    I wanted to post about camas reddit search, but it looks like /u/Pure_Aeternus knows about it already. :)

    I actually remember you for a post you made in /r/subredditcancer a long time ago about telling whether a post has been removed. I still use that trick today because I don't like switching to new reddit. Nowadays I hang out on rdrama too.

    [–]RedPillDessert 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    Ah that post! Yeah I made a few tricks on r/archival as well such as how to archive Youtube comments.

    Marsey rulez. I'm @RPD on rdrama ;)

    [–]jet199 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    Maybe start doing actual creative work rather than procrastinating and drifting by posting on social media to strangers who don't care about you.

    There's a great need for diverse opinions and actually we're at the point right now that the pendulum is starting to swing back the other way no matter what the wokescolds in publishing think. At the end of the day the bottom line matters more than their feels.

    [–]jimmycobaltrghgo off sweaty 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    I completely understand why you would feel sad over this. Reddit at this point is honestly turning biased if it wasn't before. Especially with the banning of socialjusticeinaction as well. Which I honestly have no idea as to why it was removed alongside TIA.

    [–]GrilledTofuIdentifying as a block of tofu 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    I bet it has something to do with the recent ban of trans people in women's sports

    [–]edisondotme 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Would it be possible to submit a GDPR request to Reddit.com requesting all of your comments? Alternatively The Archive Team might have been able to archive your comments. Check with their systems

    [–]RuinedSpiral 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    I miss all of my comments on there, too. Sometimes when I was feeling particularly upset about woke stuff I’d look back on some of the discussions I had and it did a lot to calm me down and cheer me up.

    [–]Femaleisnthateful 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Well on the plus side, I can now actually post to TumblrinAction since I have an account here but no longer on Reddit. I lurked quite a while and was thisclose to creating a new account just to post. Oh well, finally have no reason to use Reddit at all.

    It was frustrating to create long, thoughtful, well-evidenced posts just to have them disappeared because they didn't suit the hivemind.

    [–]wafflegaff 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Here's what people captured to archive.today: https://archive.ph/https://www.reddit.com/r/TumblrInAction/*

    [–]PopsicleToes 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    I often screen-shotted my comments in case the ban hammer fell. I realize that doesn't help you now, but please don't give up. Former r/TIA supporters should band together here and yes, rebuild what we had, because it had an important function.

    [–]Airbus320 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

    Grow up

    [–]TigerFoo 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    I was (MedleyChimera) on TiA, flair was "Biology is a social construct" I was able to see my old comments via the RiF app (reddit is fun) and the RES on desktop (reddit enhancement suite). If that helps any.

    [–]awkwardphilosopher 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    I'll definitely miss it. I've been visiting for years, it kept me sane

    [–]brimshaeBased Woodchipper Merchant 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Get off the internet. Seriously, "touch grass" isn't just a meme.

    [–]Random-RamblingGold-Medalist Mental Gymnast 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Yeah, TiA was basically an online version of a pub, bar, or tavern where I'd come to chat.

    [–]JerzyZulawski 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    I feel the same way. I didn't realise how much TiA was keeping me sane until it was banned.

    [–]yabbit 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    that sub sucked