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[–]GrilledTofuIdentifying as a block of tofu 23 insightful - 3 fun23 insightful - 2 fun24 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Oh yes it ramped really, really hard. It was already acellerating before covid, and then the rona made everyone extra crazy

[–][deleted] 22 insightful - 2 fun22 insightful - 1 fun23 insightful - 2 fun -  (26 children)

I would say it's growing, yes. I mean you have corporate America, the medical industrial complex, the media, and government all hell bent on forcing this shit on us. It's a cancer that we haven't found a cure for. I think it signals an end of western civilization as we know it.

Just yesterday on Reddit I saw some propaganda about gender identity on a sub that had nothing to do with it. Then on Twitter, there's a bot that gives 3 page answers on what a woman is. The pedophilia angle is concerning too. There are going to be a lot of suicides incoming.

[–]Smarterthanlastweek2 18 insightful - 2 fun18 insightful - 1 fun19 insightful - 2 fun -  (24 children)

There are going to be a lot of suicides incoming.

Yup. Real woman have hard times in real relationships when they hit middle age, never mind feminine looking men who've a fake pussy carved out of them, and have found other boys depraved enough to treat them like a cum dumpster. They're not going to find a relationship and no one is going to be willing to stick their dick in them.

[–]Cass 15 insightful - 6 fun15 insightful - 5 fun16 insightful - 6 fun -  (7 children)

I believe most of the feminine looking men are even still into women - esp if they transitioned bc they're autogynephiliacs. That's why most act the way they do towards women, they think they'll put on a dress and be cute lesbians but instead they're forever alone and raging.

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    [–]VulptexMy pronouns are the/matrix 15 insightful - 2 fun15 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    And also contrary to what pedo grooming LGBT organizations will have you believe, being gender non-conforming isn't even supposed to make you trans. There's a tiny handful of the population that doesn't feel comfortable in their body's sex, which has nothing to do with personality or "identity". And it's a miserable disease for all who are unfortunate enough to be plagued by it, not some kind of "diversity" to be celebrated and encouraged in classrooms full of 5-year-olds.

    [–]Cass 9 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

    Being a man like that (naturally more feminine/sensitive) in today's world must suck. Sucks for the women attracted to those men too, but it sucks more for the men.

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      [–]Cass 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

      It seems like that's very frustrating. Do people approach you often to inform you that you're trans?

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        [–]Cass 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        lmao like they're trying to recruit into the cult

        [–][deleted] 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

        Dude, it ain't just about sex. Relationships affect your whole life when you're partnered. It's about sharing your whole life with someone, which sex is a small part of. Lol

        [–]jet199 14 insightful - 5 fun14 insightful - 4 fun15 insightful - 5 fun -  (4 children)

        The majority don't want relationships with trans people.

        No one walks past a train wreak and thinks "I need to buy a ticket to that ride."

        Don't pretend it's all about decent people loving a personality not a body when the personality is the main problem destroying the body.

        [–]On_WheelsWe need to secure the existence of the gay race 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

        Good point, transitioning involves the insertion of foreign, biochemical compounds into —in most cases— a perfectly healthy body with no need for said compounds. I imagine in a few decades, we'll see a lot of hormone related diseases and disorders popping out of the blue, provided said transitioners don't kill themselves in the meanwhile.

        [–]VulptexMy pronouns are the/matrix 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

        Most legit ftms will probably be safe from suicide.

        [–]jet199 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

        People with personality disorders have much higher rates of suicide. Most ftm have that risk.

        [–]VulptexMy pronouns are the/matrix 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        It will be higher than normal but not 41%. The reason it's so bad for legit mtfs is because almost nothing can be done to treat their condition, since testosterone causes so many irreversible changes. On the flipside that also means it can mostly alleviate it for ftms...and also ruin the lives of those who made a mistake and detrans, because then they basically have to live as mtfs.

        [–]LyingSpirit472 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

        But you forget, the people who u/Smarterthanlastweek2 described are, by and large, the specific breed of incel coomers who are so pornsick and desperate that they literally were willing to cut off their sex organ in exchange for someone having sex with them. If you're that coom-retarded that "you have to cut the organ that lets you have sex off in exchange for having sex" sounds like a good plan, then they don't give a fuck about any other part of the relationship.

        [–]VulptexMy pronouns are the/matrix 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (8 children)

        You'd be surprised how many people have a fetish for trans women. That's part of the reason transmaxxing exists.

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          [–]LyingSpirit472 10 insightful - 5 fun10 insightful - 4 fun11 insightful - 5 fun -  (1 child)

          Not only that, but the fetish in Thai ladyboys/trans "women" with the penis still want "they look like a very pretty woman, but have a penis." They're not exactly lining up for "a neckbeard with long hair in his grandma's old nightgown" or "a guy who presents as a guy, but he said his pronouns are he/they."

          [–]Femaleisnthateful 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

          Most of what the Western world interprets as "trans" in other countries or points in history are the homosexual transexuals, or just really effeminate gay men. Interestingly, there's no analog for autogynephiles. They-or at least the openness they enjoy - seem to be a uniquely Western phenomenon

          [–]VulptexMy pronouns are the/matrix 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

          Both of these assume it's purely a social phenomenon and not a medical disorder (or more like disease because it's so awful). It shows society is struggling with gender roles again, thanks to liberals wanting to co-opt things for their agenda that they don't understand.

          [–]VulptexMy pronouns are the/matrix 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

          Wouldn't having your balls cut off take away the autogynephilia? I think that's the reason those guys don't get the surgery and rarely take hormones.

          [–]Smarterthanlastweek2 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

          So you think they're basically into women who can also fuck them?

          [–]TotoroDeams 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

          I think it signals an end of western civilization as we know it.

          Unless we figure out how to combat it, its not an end to western civilization per say, its an end to American protected class civilization for sure.

          Other countries, once this social-virus has passed and gone will remove, edit or refuse to institute new discrimination protections.

          And honestly, I think the only protection should be at the work place, otherwise everyone is fair game, who gives a shit.

          [–]SerpensInferna 13 insightful - 4 fun13 insightful - 3 fun14 insightful - 4 fun -  (3 children)

          It purposely got force teamed with the BLM movement and gained a lot of traction through it, because too many people were afraid to criticize the Holy Negro.

          I can't tell you how many retards I saw on social media posting BLACK TRANS LIVES MATTER.

          [–]jet199 10 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

          One of the gold digging lesbians who set up the BLM org was going out with a transman (mad women) at the time so they were all in trans rights.

          All the money they gave out went to trans charities, not black people.

          [–]LyingSpirit472 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

          Being fair, that's less traction and more "Wokeness is about divide and conquer. When you've got a group with enough power to lead the revolution? Divide it further, and further still, until you have every peasant at everyone else's throats and they don't have a chance to fight the nobility."

          [–]DimDroog 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

          The Holy Negro, lmao!

          [–]ID10T 12 insightful - 2 fun12 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 2 fun -  (9 children)

          Yes and debating it is prevented on every major site which is nuts. The good news is that push back has become intense now and it feels like the tide has turned. But it feels like a huge distraction on a relatively inconsequential issue. Like I live in a fairly gay neighborhood, and yet I rarely meet trans people. And the ones I have act pretty normal. It's the rainbow-haired "cis" people I've met that are insufferable. Most gays and lesbians are not about this shit.

          [–]jet199 11 insightful - 3 fun11 insightful - 2 fun12 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

          I went to Central London the other day and I walked past over ten transwomen.

          All in old fashioned summer dresses and all with faces like smacked arses.

          All looked threatening and I wouldn't feel safe if they lost their tempers.

          There seems to be an AGP/men who fancy their mothers crossover going on.

          But it's the rise in people on the internet telling these dangerous guys they are stunning and brave which is leading to them taking their fetish out in public and then abusing others with their ma'amtrums.

          [–][deleted] 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

          They should all be anesthetized.

          [–]VulptexMy pronouns are the/matrix 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

          Either AGP or they're trying to show off their "transness" to virtue signal.

          [–][deleted] 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

          and yet I rarely meet trans people. And the ones I have act pretty normal. It's the rainbow-haired "cis" people I've met that are insufferable. Most gays and lesbians are not about this shit.

          I regrettably must disagree with you here. In my experience, the trans and "non-binary" folks, and the gays, bis, and lesbians I've met are absolutely about this shit. It's at the point I don't even want to be friends with another "LGBT+" person, because of the insufferability of the ones I have already met.

          [–]VulptexMy pronouns are the/matrix 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

          Those are all SJW pawns. You don't notice the rest (except mtfs) because they wouldn't talk about their sexuality and gender every 2 seconds and make their whole life and identity revolve around it like these people do.

          [–]VulptexMy pronouns are the/matrix 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

          The problem is that since about 2020 the pushback has become so great that some people really do hate them now, and it's all because the media only ever exalts the crazy ones and that's all anyone ever sees. Which is probably exactly what the left wants, because now they can point fingers at us for real.

          [–]SerpensInferna 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

          Ehhhhhh, my own personal experience is a bit different than yours. I know and know of many trans, I have interests in a few subcultures that lay out the red carpet for them, and I have had terrible experiences with the majority of them. It's to the point where I will just avoid them at all costs now. I credit my RL relationships with transpeople to largely bringing me to the peak of Mount Terf.

          [–][deleted] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

          Yup this has been my experience as well.

          [–]VulptexMy pronouns are the/matrix 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

          You said you meet them a lot in subcultures. Those are the perfect breeding grounds for nutcases, including progressive virtue signalers. If it's part of their identity at all, and it is if they make sure everyone knows it, then that's who you're dealing with. My raging liberal cousin posts on social media about nothing but being gay, and he's insufferable and refuses to visit his own immediate family because they support Trump and aren't ultra-far-left SJWs who always side with the narrative, which is somehow racist and homophobic. Now if he didn't act like that, it's unlikely that you'd find out he's gay in passing because he wouldn't talk about it 90% of the time. And with trans people it's even worse, because 75% of them are trenders who are either virtue signaling like that or want to do things like cheat in womens' sports and enter the womens' locker rooms. Another 20% is young girls trying to fit in while being pressured to "come out" as something "queer", and they end up detransitioning and becoming terfs because the movement tricked them and now they have to live the rest of their lives as basically trans women. Anyone who talks about "gender identity" or touts this as "healthy and normal" or even brags about it, you can be pretty sure is from one of those crowds. I really hate it when the narrative exalts something so debilitating and distressful as "healthy". Do they secretly have something against disabled people, that they can't call it that lest it be "hateful"? This is not like autism where someone is just atypical and it would be evil to try to "fix" them, it's a disease that no one wants, or would want if they knew what it's like, it directly burdens the victim, and this burden is not from society being "intolerant". It's also an excuse to bring back gender roles, because the media and public school classrooms are teaching kids that gender non-conformity = you're not that gender, because they think it's not biological and is purely a social construct. I bet they're going to start saying gender dysphoria is transphobic soon, because it's caused by biological sex which you're not allowed to acknowledge, only "gender identity" based entirely on gender norms and what society deems is masculine vs. feminine vs. cat vs. furry vs. Dream personality. Actually they're already starting to. And I'm not even sure what their goal is with all this nonsense, other than it being a competition to see who can be the most woke, and a convenient excuse to shut down their opponents for "hate speech", which by their standards is impossible to avoid.

          [–]jet199 12 insightful - 2 fun12 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

          I actually think they are sperging out now because this is the first time they have hit any real push back.

          They had been comfortably getting laws and rules changed in secret before then.

          [–][deleted] 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

          That's a real good point. The upside to this shit being all over the place is people actually pushing back against it. There's a lot of shit I wasn't aware of. Before, I didn't really care about any of this. Let consenting adults do what they want as long as they're not hurting anyone, I said. Well. As we can all clearly see, it's now gone far beyond that.

          [–]VulptexMy pronouns are the/matrix 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

          Let consenting adults do what they want as long as they're not hurting anyone, I said.

          This is exactly what they don't want us saying, and don't want others to know about. They want us to say hateful things about them so they can point fingers and "expose" us, because all their previous claims were lies. So now they're purposely inciting us to hate them, and unfortunately it's proved successful on a good number of people.

          [–]VulptexMy pronouns are the/matrix 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

          And they didn't like it the way it was before, because it meant all their claims about "hateful conservatives" held no water. So they went and engineered pushback on purpose by acting as crazy as possible, so they could finally "expose" us.

          [–]meisthebigdumbTransracial BlackX Rockgender Bispecies 10 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

          I feel it man, there are fucking pride assemblies in my school. Thankfully there is some pushback against it, because a biology teacher ripped off some pride posters lol

          [–][deleted] 9 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

          Hell yes, love to see teachers with the courage to push back against this shit!

          [–]Smarterthanlastweek2 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

          Absolutely.

          Trannies don't perform any useful jobs that would have been exempt from the lock down, or children to take care of, so they had all day to sit around bitching and whining on social media while getting paid to do so.

          And here we are.

          [–]jet199 2 insightful - 4 fun2 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

          To be fair ladyboys give the best massages.

          [–]Davethe_blank_ 9 insightful - 3 fun9 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 3 fun -  (12 children)

          I'd say it was right after the SCOTUS allowed gay marriage that this went full on crazy.

          [–][deleted] 9 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 2 fun -  (10 children)

          I hate to say it, I really do. but I cannot deny the slippery slope since the federal legalization of same-sex marriage within the US.

          [–]Datachost 19 insightful - 2 fun19 insightful - 1 fun20 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

          It's basically a case of a predatory movement who've been biding their time and saw the post 2015 landscape as the perfect opportunity to take advantage of existing infrastructure to push their goals. Really the charities whose main goals were previously getting gay marriage over the line as the last major block to equality should have ceased to exist once it was realised. But too many people's livelihoods were at stake for that (by which I mean too many gala dinners were at stake), so they needed to find a new purpose to keep the money rolling in. And so the trans crowd rolled in, convincing them it was the next civil rights struggle and definitely not a group of mostly straight crossdressing men

          [–]VulptexMy pronouns are the/matrix 11 insightful - 2 fun11 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

          Nowadays it's mostly a group of young girls trying to fit in.

          [–]LyingSpirit472 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

          Honestly, I don't even think it was any of those, and it's the endgame of social media.

          The Internet already led to GIFT starting- people could be fuckwads on the Internet because they were anonymous.

          Social media then changed that because people started being fuckwads under their real name/photo, and felt it was okay...and then, somewhere there was a sea change where being a fuckwad under your real name/photo led to people being emboldened to be fuckwads in everyday life.

          The only thing the pandemic did was take these now incredible fuckwads with a firm belief they are the main character anyway, and put them back on the Internet where they already believed everyone else had no humanity and it's okay to do whatever you want to them.

          [–][deleted] 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

          I hate to say it, I really do. but I cannot deny the slippery slope since the federal legalization of same-sex marriage within the US.

          And that started with LGB rights. The whole rainbow is part of the problem, not just the trannies.

          People deserve God given human rights, what's fucking us is elevating groups of people into special and protected classes. Two wrongs don't make a right, more inequality doesn't fix inequality.

          And I know, athiests gonna flip about the God part, but if you accept your rights are granted by the state, they can take those rights away. The State can't touch sky daddy.

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            [–]VulptexMy pronouns are the/matrix 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

            They try to act like it's a death sentence in "evil" America and 99.9% of the rest of the world is welcoming and tolerant.

            [–]pcpmasterrace/s/debatealtright 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

            And that started with LGB rights.

            Before that it was desegregation and the Negro rights movement. It's all part of the Open Society theorized by Karl Popper.

            [–]VulptexMy pronouns are the/matrix 8 insightful - 3 fun8 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

            You're taking the bait. This is exactly the kind of crap the left wants you to believe, so that they can point fingers at us and how hateful and bigoted we are. In fact I think the whole motive behind the George Floyd riots was to get conservatives to feel uncomfortable with black people, so they can "expose" us as racists. Same with the weird LGBTQIAPFABCDEFG+ stuff and any other "minority" they steal the voice of and make look as crazy and unhinged as possible. It's all part of the scheme devised by Lyndon B. Johnson: have those n*****s voting Democratic for the next 200 years.

            [–]pcpmasterrace/s/debatealtright 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

            You're taking the bait. This is exactly the kind of crap the left wants you to believe

            I don't take my cues from the left, or the right.

            In fact I think the whole motive behind the George Floyd riots was to get conservatives to feel uncomfortable with black people

            Everyone is uncomfortable around black people, including other black people.

            Same with the weird LGBTQIAPFABCDEFG+ stuff and any other "minority" they steal the voice of and make look as crazy and unhinged as possible.

            Do they really need that much help for that?

            It's all part of the scheme devised by Lyndon B. Johnson: have those niggers voting Democratic for the next 200 years.

            I don't believe in voting. And forget about 200 years, America won't last another 50.

            [–]VulptexMy pronouns are the/matrix 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

            They engineered that on purpose, because that's exactly what they want you to think. That way they can point fingers and say, "look, the conservatives are all bigots who hate black and gay people!" and have it not be an obvious lie that only SJWs would fall for.

            [–]VulptexMy pronouns are the/matrix 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

            No, it was the day government was created.

            [–]Adventurous_Ad6212 6 insightful - 9 fun6 insightful - 8 fun7 insightful - 9 fun -  (0 children)

            Well, well, well. Looky here buckaroo its imperative that you understand the dogmatic transgressions imposed on us by the systemically oppressive cis neurotypical bioessentialist patriarchy. Dont ignore the harm they have done to the vulnerable folx and the damage they have wrought upon the most marginalized of communities at the behest of their tyrannically capitalistic heteronormative overlords. The fascistic western colonizers of the alt right are continually perpetuating a literal genocide against queer ideology.

            They are doing this so they can retroactively destroy our way of life through the erasure of the trans identity. The only way we can stop this is by forcing everyone to constantly be online all the time. We need to work together as a collective and peacefully force our beliefs in equity and inclusion on our elected representatives with passively coercive acts of self defense when they aren't paying attention.

            I truly believe if we come together and unite we can overcome the painful traumas inflicted on us and clap back at the deteriorating homogenization of our society. I want to live in a world where we are all equal. But some of us are more equal then others. I want to live in a world where we have secured the existence of the gay race and a future for trans babies. I want to live in a world where I can get my lady lance polished by any one at anytime of my choosing with them being under threat of death for refusal.

            The Cissy's need to understand that their actions are actually killing millions of trans black lesbians every second of the day. and they need to atone for their actions. So please... be better, educate yourself, and submit to our whims. or else.

            [–]VulptexMy pronouns are the/matrix 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

            It all happened on the same day America was doomed: May 26, 2020, the day of the George Floyd riots. Since that day everyone has lost their minds and become almost 100% reactionary in their beliefs, which seem to be comprised solely of cultural and social issues at this point. This culture civil war gave China the perfect opportunity to strike and take over...oh right, that part didn't happen yet.

            [–][deleted] 12 insightful - 2 fun12 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

            This culture civil war gave China the perfect opportunity to strike and take over...oh right, that part didn't happen yet.

            It's in progress. China's zero covid policy is not so effective for stopping covid, but it's super effective for trashing the US economy reliant on China. All our companies thought they were so smart to outsource and make a nice profit.

            Well, guess what, they gave away the keys to the factory.

            [–]VulptexMy pronouns are the/matrix 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

            I think their bigger success is social engineering. Though that was probably started more by the Democrats in the LBJ era, but communists may have played a role.

            [–][deleted] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

            You remind me, did you hear about the Bill Clinton election campaign? The Democrats were sick of losing so they called in experts to social engineer a victory.

            [–]VulptexMy pronouns are the/matrix 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

            No but I am not surprised at all.

            [–]jet199 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

            They can pay me millions to tell them not to speak crazy now, if they like.

            [–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

            Which is why we're in bad need of nationalist economic policy.

            [–]Q-Continuum-kin 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

            From my perspective it's slowing down but the problem is momentum carrying them in the direction of crazy.

            Ie they have negative acceleration but their velocity is still positive. I've been observing this crap pushing through our lives since at least 2010 ish. It started earlier on like 2005 ish but almost no one was paying attention. Very recently we've been getting some serious victories pushing back their bullshit. Things which seem small but the very fact that corporate America and some institutions appear to be getting fed up us enough to start to slow down the pendulum. The more crazy they get and the more they hold on, the harder that pendulum is going to swing back. I just hope that the pendulum doesn't wipe out other rights on the back swing.

            [–]Newzok 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

            Amen, that's my take as well. I wish we stopped at gay marriage, which isn't really even something I was bothered about. All the rest is getting so weird and narcissistic it makes everyone of us look mad by associaton.

            [–]BiHorror 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

            Yes. In the past, I remember only seeing it here and there... But now? It's like, it's everywhere. In the places where you least expect it!

            [–][deleted] 12 insightful - 2 fun12 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

            My 12 year old cousin recently started reciting gender ideology stances and now identifies as a """"gender fluid""" lesbian (even though she has a history of talking about how cute boys are). She now wants a binder, and I'm terrified where that's gonna lead next. I truly believe she has no understanding of what she's saying - this nonsense is coming from her public school. I try to gently nudge her away from that as best as I can without pushing her so far away that she stops talking to me, because I want her to have a stable adult figure in her life that is (regrettably) in tune with the LGBTBBQ4@+++ nonsense that's infecting our society, so I can try to protect her from it.

            [–]BiHorror 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

            Sheesh. Is she masculine? Maybe you could try pushing her towards the idea of GNC, instead of the "gender fluid" crap. That it's okay to be masculine or androgynous (being outside the sex stereotypes/roles), without having to call herself some weird gender ideology stuff.

            [–]VulptexMy pronouns are the/matrix 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

            Noooooooooooooooooooooooooo, you can't be GNC, gender is a social construct based on gender roles! You're not allowed to acknowledge biological sex, you have to pretend it doesn't exist! And you also have to pretend like social constructs actually mean something, because we need to fit everyone into little boxes and make sure they conform to them so they're easier to contro-I mean, so we can celebrate D I V E R S I T Y !!!!!

            [–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

            No, she's just a normally feminine girl, and she also wears a lot of makeup. Nothing particularly masculine about her at all. If anything, I was more masculine than her growing up. It's the school inserting this propaganda into her head.

            [–]VulptexMy pronouns are the/matrix 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

            I don't see what's so great about something that causes a 41% suicide rate that it needs to be celebrated and encouraged at every possible opportunity.

            [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

            $$$$ and stupidity and gullibility. Also, people want something to """fight""" for.

            [–]BiHorror 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

            Ah, never mind then. Are her parents the same line of thinking as the schools? Do they know what schools are teaching kids? Maybe they can swap her out towards the end.

            [–]JasonCarswellSisyphus / Ouroboros 5 insightful - 4 fun5 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

            Duh.

            Perpetual /s/ClassWar includes perpetual /s/CultureWars for full spectrum dominance via confusion, demotivation, distraction, and division. And as long as we're fighting each other we're not fighting the /s/RulingClass.

            Also, most of the trans community, or any community, is not represented by the extremists that claim to represent - while ALWAYS being lead by the ruling class.

            [–]ShekelPa 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

            We saw it coming, this is not the first time in history this has been the case. In fact, historical precedence dictates that it will get much worse.

            [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

            Ah shit.

            [–]Alienhunter糞大名 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

            This stuff mostly exists online, pandemic pushed more people on-line and just accelerated it.

            Hardcore trans-activists tend to stay in their online spaces because they have control there. Where IRL they run the risk of people not taking them seriously at all or even worse, simply ignoring them.

            It's far easier to maintain their self image and avoid the disphoria if they can control the space. IRL they are forced to deal with the reality of life. Hence why they retreat into self affirming online spaces. It's a lack of self confidence and self acceptance driving a lot of this. Pandemic just pushed a lot of otherwise borderline people into the crazy world of social media and the internet who weren't well prepared for it.

            [–]loubag1997 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

            Everything tied in with “identity politics” (a new leftist secular religion) has ramped up 1000x since the pandemic and particularly since the George Floyd incident.

            So not only gender ideology but also critical race theory, everything else LGBT, and basically any and all things related to “identities”. Even Apu got shitcanned from The Simpsons.

            Basically the religious doctrine distilled to its purest form is: “straight non-trans able-bodied Christian white males are the worst, Gay Black Non-Christian Disabled Transwomen are the best, everyone else falls somewhere in between.

            [–]TulipPoplar 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

            Lockdown really just drug everything into the light. I think being exposed before the normies really warmed up to it at least threw some obstacles up.

            [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

            That's a good point. I've heard this crap was already well under way even before 2015/2016, the pandemic must have just dragged it out into the open. The light reveals the dirt, for sure.

            [–]hfxB0oyA 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

            A lot of people holed up at home with snacks and too much time on their hands. Once they watched all the Netflix shows, they went looking for something else to do and with no real problems to worry about, the door was cracked open to this hellscape to fill the void.

            [–]send_nasty_stuff 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

            We are getting to the point that more children who were exposed to it at a young age are hitting adolescents.

            [–]SaidOverRed 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

            Leftism keeps accelerating, as it has been for decades now. But yes clownworld is an entirely new level.

            [–]FlyingKangaroo 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

            I think it did, in a way. Of course I can’t grasp it fully as it is in the US (I live in different country) but looking through Twitter I noticed (in 2020 especially) many teenagers who said they come out with new gender/orientation because supposedly in lockdown they had more time for it, wanted some change etc.

            You’d literally see challenges like “retweet this with your picrews of you in 2019 and 2020” and the 2020 selves suddenly had dangerhair, pride pin badges, pride flags background (if available in picrew), were much uglier, etc.

            I felt it’s both sad and cringe, young people grooming out because they treat it almost as an aesthetic (even if the won’t admit to that) or because they live in shitty families which might be wealthy but don’t give them proper attention, etc.

            I don’t even want to think how schools in my country treat it. Some probably don’t have a clue their students want to be trans. Some might have. I read a few days ago a funny comment about a student who was genderfluid and whined about having to do something on the board (during a lesson) and the teacher would call them wrong names because in one moment there should be a female name and in another one male etc. I don’t know the real sex of that person.