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[–][deleted] 16 insightful - 3 fun16 insightful - 2 fun17 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

The problem here is that you're trying to use reasoning and logic against an ideology that is, by its very nature, unreasonable and illogical. Moreover, it is psychological and emotional. These people are not arguing on the basis of good sense. They think that males and females are synonymous. I tried telling ex-friends about the differences in male and female physiology. Their response is just to say "I disagree". Which of course, makes about sense as disagreeing with the fact that humans are typically born with two eyes, four limbs, and five fingers on each hand. They do not listen to science, they do not listen to truth. Believe me, I've tried. Arguing with these twats is worse than arguing with a wall, because at least the wall isn't trying to change the definition of woman.

[–]RedEyedWarriorThe Evil Cishomo 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Agreed. These people are part of a cult. They will only understand reality when it hits them in the mutilated crotch.

[–]Neo_Shadow_Lurker 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

These people are not arguing on the basis of good sense. They think that males and females are synonymous.

Believe it or not, but transactivists don't think this is the case at all, otherwise the whole concept of transgenderism wouldn't make sense.

What transactivists believe is that male/female are identities arbitrarily assigned into people. They think the only standard to classify someone as male or a female should be how they identify themselves.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Bruh when I tell TRAs that there are differences between males and females, aka sexual dimorphism, they deny it. They absolutely do believe that, and it's their whole justification for letting males in female sports, bathrooms, and changing rooms. Also, you claiming that these people caring about transgenderism "making sense" is hilarious, considering pretty much the whole damn movement lacks sense. That was the whole point of my comment, that the trans movement is unreasonable and illogical.

[–]IkeConn 11 insightful - 2 fun11 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Just don't hire them. They are more trouble than they are worth.

[–]RedEyedWarriorThe Evil Cishomo 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I avoid these people. Simple as that.

[–]TotoroDeams 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

A lot of companies that aren't totally woke are avoiding these people as best they can.

[–]IkeConn 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I don't blame them.

[–]VulptexMy pronouns are the/matrix 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

Their reponse is "identifying as one", or at the very least "feeling like one". You aren't allowed to bring up biology at all, they insist that it's all a social construct and that you're a fascist if you disagree.

[–]detaramespez raped me 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

And you get 200+ new messages on Preddit. Try it once, it's fun.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

They'll also mass report you.

[–]TotoroDeams 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Then hit back with transgender is a social construct and holds no ground too.

[–]VulptexMy pronouns are the/matrix 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That's the thing, to them social constructs are very important. They're socialist, everything rightfully belongs to society in their eyes.

[–][deleted] 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

They'll have a 3 page word salad answer by a bot on Twitter explaining what a woman is. I actually saw that there.

[–]jacques1102[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

So did i

[–]Datachost 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I'm pretty sure that account isn't even a bot.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

No, they called the bot in a Twitter thread. The bot responded to the call. Saw it for myself.

[–]LyingSpirit472 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

There is no argument that will work to counter them.

People like this cannot be argued with. They start with the conclusion they've decided is true- in the snarts' case, that conclusion being "I, personally, am a woman"- and work backwards from that conclusion. By working backwards, any fact that fits the conclusion is 100% the truth, and anything that does not fit it is inconsequential. They already made their decision and nothing will change it, because to change it would mean they might not be the prettiest princess in all of Christendom.

[–]detaramespez raped me 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

O' my lad. If you think there is an "argument" against this, then you don't understand how far has the situation gotten. It's all mental gymnastics and doublethink at this point. A quintessence of cope.

[–]RedEyedWarriorThe Evil Cishomo 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's penis or vagina. But these people don't understand logic. That's what insanity is all about. This is why it's better not to associate with these freaks.

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Typically the best strategy is simply to ask questions and then let them talk and express their own views however they want without giving much hostility or argument on them. Just keep them talking and ask them to give more details and they'll get frustrated and angry when they can't give coherent explanations which makes them look bad, or they'll give something insane which makes them look bad, or they'll refuse to answer at all which makes them look bad.

Really all you have to do is let them talk. What does "indentifying as a woman" mean for you? If being a woman isn't reliant on biology, then what does it mean to identify as one? What are the characteristics of a woman?