Queer literature, SJW & Tumblr culture and the readers who praise that

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Anyone else thought of the growing number of books with queer characters, LGBT themes becoming more common in YA, etc.? I mean, books with LGB characters existed before but now we have the T element too. Here comes the stories about (an by) nonbinary snowflakes too.

An example of various titles compiled on Goodreads: https://www.goodreads.com/genres/queer

A few highlights: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/36336078-call-me-by-your-name Call Me By Your Name by Andre Aciman - written by a pedo, praised by women fetishizing gays.

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/42837514-gender-queer Genderqueer by Maia Kobabe - there was an excellent review of it on classic TiA (don’t have a clue if it’s archived anywhere); a memoir of a woman who developed a massive gay fetish in her youth (yaoi + fan fiction is a deadly mix), thought being a woman is the same as conforming to stereotypes so came to a conclusion she must be genderspecial.

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/43449920-heartstopper Heartstopper by Alice Oseman (a proud she/they who also wrote other LGBTQ stuff) - a graphic novel series about two students who fall in love, male homosexual romance; most of the audience is guess who, girls. I got a feeling it tries to replicate somehow the style of manga but in a very retarded way.

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/32768522-carry-on Carry On by Rainbow (sic) Rowell - a sort of LGBTQ remake of Harry Potter (Rowling lives rent-free in many SJW’s heads). Can’t tell how much it’s of a “story with yaoi-like stuff to appeal to fangirls” and whether it has many more “progressive” stuff but it’s notable as modeled after HP and ironically comes from an author who also wrote “Fangirl” - a classic study of fandom-eaten brain (actually, it was a fictional franchise within that book - later Rowell made it real).

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/52339313-cemetery-boys Cemetery Boys by Aiden Thomas - some magic, death and also... Latinx trannies. I had a good laugh yesterday checking the 1 star reviews; some say that while the main character is a FtM and fights to be perceived as a man, the portrayal of girls/women and their magic functions is quite sexist.

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/51931067-felix-ever-after Felix Ever After by Kacen Callender - the MC is a troon too, born as a woman and you can still see the feminine face on the cover (at least I get such impression immediately).

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/41473872-i-wish-you-all-the-best I Wish You All The Best by Mason Deaver - the tragic life of an enby. Could be even a bigger language disaster in translations.

Any of you came across these titles or any similar? Do you think these books only appeal to the people who were already submerged in SJW ways of thinking or - due to being books and not online posts - try to further legitimize the identity madness? How it’s like with that “genre” if you’re outside the US? Any funny stories to share about their primary audience?

Looking at that trend, what more I can say: what a waste of paper.

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[–]LordoftheFliesAmeri-kin 2.0. Pronouns: MegaWhite/SuperStraight/UltraPatriarchy 16 insightful - 3 fun16 insightful - 2 fun17 insightful - 3 fun -  (7 children)

What's particularly funny about the yaoi stuff is how many women will try to downplay (or even straight up deny) that other women are a significant number (if not the actual majority) of the people making and consuming it.

Equally funny is how many of those women--the ones producing and consuming the yaoi--have no problem objectifying two (or more) male characters like that, but lose their shit at a female character being portrayed in a sexually appealing manner.

[–]FlyingKangaroo[S] 10 insightful - 4 fun10 insightful - 3 fun11 insightful - 4 fun -  (3 children)

You put it very well. I had a misfortune of getting across a few yaoi fangirls in my life - they loved it out online but I don’t know if they ever discussed the dynamics of that genre and who’s the audience.

I was also wondering if there’s another factor to it (beside casual porn brain): some women buy into propaganda that hetero relationships are more abusive from their sole nature, that heterosexual pairs are highly sexualized, “bland”, belong to the “problematic” world etc. ... So they assume gays are pure cinnamon rolls who need to be protected and fangirls over. Just like some women fetishize sexual abuse in fiction if the perpetrator is portrayed as an attractive chad, others fetishize abuse in gay fiction or just the homosexuality itself in general - as being something better and more “interesting” than hetero characters and people. That being said, one of the yaoi fans I came across was a lesbian herself, other wasn’t but later trooned out to FtM. There is this whole correlation among some trans people, mostly FtM and non-binaries who started as yaoi fangirls.

[–]LyingSpirit472 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Just like some women fetishize sexual abuse in fiction if the perpetrator is portrayed as an attractive chad, others fetishize abuse in gay fiction or just the homosexuality itself in general - as being something better and more “interesting” than hetero characters and people.

Well, the first part of "portrayed as an attractive chad" explains it. You don't see yaoi fangirls consuming bara or bear content; that stuff would scare them. Yaoi fangirls want their yaoi to be two attractive chad-types fucking each other. They're the woman equivalent of the guy who only watches lesbian porn, and they both have the same logic of "it's two hot people I want to see fuck, with no person of my gender in it so I don't have to see someone hook up with someone I can never get; instead I can just imagine they're revving themselves up for me."

[–]BiHorror 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Just like some women fetishize sexual abuse in fiction if the perpetrator is portrayed as an attractive chad, others fetishize abuse in gay fiction or just the homosexuality itself in general - as being something better and more “interesting” than hetero characters and people

I have seen a theory similar to this. That the large amount of abuse in BL/yaoi is essentially because they can get away with it. People won't lose their shit over a dude hitting another guy, but they would if it was a man hitting a woman. Therefore, to avoid the shit-storm, yaoi/BL fangirls use that. Notice how in yaoi, most of the submissive male characters are pretty feminine looking? Alongside having stereotypical female personality traits? That's why.

[–]FlyingKangaroo[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I don’t think I often heard of that theory before but that makes a lot of sense.

[–]BioEssentialism 8 insightful - 5 fun8 insightful - 4 fun9 insightful - 5 fun -  (1 child)

Equally funny is how many of those women--the ones producing and consuming the yaoi--have no problem objectifying two (or more) male characters like that, but lose their shit at a female character being portrayed in a sexually appealing manner.

Not anymore, due to the Oppression Olympics and Intersectionality straight cis women are now considered almost as bad as straight cis men (especially if they’re white), which means it’s now open season for antis to shame and degrade them for “fetishization” because didn’t you know gay men are higher up in the victimization-tier rung?

smh, learn your SJW Oppression Hierarchies bigot! /s

[–][deleted] 7 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

straight cis women are now considered almost as bad as straight cis men

If you read some of the female detransition stories (ie, Helena Kerschner), this is actually cited as one of the reasons why a lot of them transition in the first place. No one wants to be a boring cis girl! That's so basic, being the oppressor like that 🙄

[–]Giant-Blue-Catfish 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yaoi fangirls are everywhere nowadays and they have gained way too much leeway from the “Queer” community to do their creepy shit

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    [–]jet199 5 insightful - 5 fun5 insightful - 4 fun6 insightful - 5 fun -  (1 child)

    every bottom must be a YAAASSS QUEEN annoying "feminine" stereotype.

    While in reality that's all gay men.

    [–]IridescentAnaconda 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Toupee fallacy.

    [–]Neo_Shadow_Lurker 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

    "Queer" characters can never have any depth, they can never be allowed to do bad things or have mixed morals, they can never be villains (because that's "homophobic", you see).

    I see this as overcompensation for the fact most villains on a not-so-distant past were mostly gay/lesbian coded, like Scar and Ursula.

    In fact, Disney admitted to this in the past.

    [–]INeedSomeTime 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

    You got me curious. How they were gay coded?

    [–]Neo_Shadow_Lurker 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    How they were gay coded?

    In the case of Ursula, she was even inspired by Divine, a drag queen that was relatively famous in the indie cinema scene at the time of the release of the movie.

    Scar is also portrayed to be very effeminate, from his movement to his speech paterns. Hell, people have been joking about him being gay since the original release of the Lion King and Disney completely changed his character in the "live action" remake to avoid potential criticisms.

    Moriarty in the new BBC remake of Sherlock Homes is also heavily gay coded to the point of the writers portraying his obsession with the main character to be near sexual in nature. Also, some of his lines also don't help with this.

    [–]FlyingKangaroo[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    I remember that Ursula and Divine connection, it’s hard for me to judge if at each case someone really wanted to make them (the characters) gay coded or just wanted to give them specific traits, much different from the protagonists, the good characters etc... I wonder to what extent it was any real coding or just stereotypes.

    Because when I was reading various threads about gay-coded characters I had this thought: “ok, maybe some LGBs act like that but not all” and it’s sexist to claim that because a character has specific mannerism, they must be gay. Maybe that’s also due to different reception of overlooking of that theme (if it really exists) in my country. For example I personally never saw Scar as gay and I don’t know a person who did. But that might be because people in America had more associations for that.

    So, I’m skeptical. It’s an interesting topic but as I said, what is real intended “coding” and what is an afterthought by people who support or oppose LGB?

    My dislike for the acceptance of coding as a real thing also comes from examples like a blog post I saw a few years ago. Someone read an older novel and claimed some man there was gay because he didn’t like sports, was a bit of a shy nerd, not conforming to the stereotypical tough masculinity, etc. Incredibly sexist. Although maybe that case was more of putting sort of self canons (fandom style).

    [–]Neo_Shadow_Lurker 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    I remember that Ursula and Divine connection, it’s hard for me to judge if at each case someone really wanted to make them (the characters) gay coded or just wanted to give them specific traits, much different from the protagonists, the good characters etc... I wonder to what extent it was any real coding or just stereotypes.

    That's is a moot point.

    The whole thing with coding is that writers use it as a way to imply a character is from x demographic without having to explicitly cite it in the text.

    Stereotypes are an easy way to this because they're recognizable by most people.

    Because when I was reading various threads about gay-coded characters I had this thought: “ok, maybe some LGBs act like that but not all” and it’s sexist to claim that because a character has specific mannerism, they must be gay. Maybe that’s also due to different reception of overlooking of that theme (if it really exists) in my country. For example I personally never saw Scar as gay and I don’t know a person who did.

    A character doesn't need to be of x demographic for coding to be a thing. That would be antithetic to coding itself.

    [–]BiHorror 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    People are slamming yaoi/BL in this thread, and while I mostly agree (it's a genre that is absolutely riddled with discrimination and hurtful themes, strong emphasis on dom/sub and gender roles) I STILL vastly prefer and relate to some yaoi more than I do western "queer" media, because at least it isn't woke.

    Same. While it can be like that sometimes, I will choose it over western media when it comes to LGB. Although, I'm also willing to let it slide becuase it's fiction. I rather them draw/write that type of stuff in fiction.

    [–]detaramespez raped me 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

    I don't know who they appeal to and I don't want to find out. They all are nothing but a poorly-written copypasta with different characters and covers. I don't know which kind of person over the age ten would read that. But, I guess, it's just YA things.

    I don't know where this "written by a pedo" came from, though.

    [–]FlyingKangaroo[S] 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

    Same, I thought YA was cringe on its own but then it got fusion with the queers.

    It comes from some interview with author (however, it’s in Spanish): https://www.ecartelera.com/noticias/entrevista-andre-aciman-call-me-by-your-name-54563/

    People discussing it on some forum (I don’t know this forum but it contains English translation of the interview fragment): https://gagadaily.com/forums/topic/307200-cmbyn-author-admits-to-pedophilic-ideations/

    The other day I was talking with a friend of mine, I said to him ‘I look at 12 year old girls and I find them very attractive’, and he said to me, ‘me too, but you can’t speak of it’. And I responded, ‘no, never’. Because if you think of it you’re almost guilty of it. I don’t commit the act, but you don’t have an idea of the rugged and disgusting things that go through everyone’s minds. - Andre Aciman

    Actually, even a few woke people wrote about being disgusted by him on Twitter, like here: https://twitter.com/clowlwn/status/1365016781400678401 However, it’s still a minority within minority and his novel is still kind of popular - thanks to the movie and appeal of gays to many women.

    [–]Neo_Shadow_Lurker 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

    Actually, even a few woke people wrote about being disgusted by him on Twitter, like here: https://twitter.com/clowlwn/status/1365016781400678401

    A lot of people called out the age difference between both protagonists at the time, including the ones who liked the book/movie, so this is no surprise at all.

    [–]pcpmasterrace/s/debatealtright 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

    Did they? Pederasty is par for the course.

    [–]Neo_Shadow_Lurker 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

    Pederasty is par for the course.

    Traditionally, most pederasts were actually married to women and had children of their own.

    Let's also not forget that the age of the two protagonists in the movie are 17 and 24 respectively.

    A lot of classical Shakespeare plays had way more questionable aged couples on scene, by the way.

    [–]pcpmasterrace/s/debatealtright 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

    Traditionally, most pederasts were actually married to women and had children of their own.

    It's possible. This idea that there are people who are "gay" is a very recent invention.

    Let's also not forget that the age of the two protagonists in the movie are 17 and 24 respectively.

    Pederasty describes a certain dynamic, which may or may not be illegal, depending on the circumstances. The relationship between Stephen Fry and his husband is paederastic in nature, even though they're not technically breaking any laws.

    A lot of classical Shakespeare plays had way more questionable aged couples on scene, by the way.

    Which ones do you mean? The only one I'm aware of is Romeo and Juliet (who are usually understood to be 16 and 13). She might be younger, but the age gap is less than half of the size as the one in CMBYN.

    [–]Neo_Shadow_Lurker 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    It's possible. This idea that there are people who are "gay" is a very recent invention.

    Exacly.

    Ancient societies didn't classify people based on who they sleept with. This is all a very recent thing. But still, most pederasts didn't see same-sex adult relationships in the best light.

    Pederasty describes a certain dynamic, which may or may not be illegal, depending on the circumstances.

    I like to be precise with the language I use.

    If we're talking about ancient Rome or Greece then you'd have a point, but in the context of modern society pederasty is equated with pedophilia, a crime.

    Which ones do you mean?

    As Shakespeare rarely specified the exact age of most of his characters, but it wasn't rare for underaged actors to be paired with adult actors.

    [–]IMissPorn 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    After a quick Start Page search, I see the book is about a gay relationship between a 17yo and a 24yo, which is certainly a bit questionable, but no one calls William Shakespeare a pedo, so I donno if there's more to it.

    [–]detaramespez raped me 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    He's 17, not 13, after all

    [–]jet199 4 insightful - 4 fun4 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

    Adult LGBT literature is so much better.

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Billionaire-Dinosaur-Forced-Me-Gay-ebook/dp/B00MCVVH6G

    [–]lunarstrain 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

    Anyone else thought of the growing number of books with queer characters, LGBT themes becoming more common in YA, etc.?

    Not books but they may as well be vaguely interactive books.

    I was watching a video earlier today about the upcoming game-adjacent-thing We Are OFK (peak nu-leftist drivel) and that lead me to watch videos about other similar mistakes like Goodbye Volcano High ("queer" furry/scaley visual novel), and Life is Strange: True Colors (woke attempt at superhero/mystery where the main heroine's power is... empathy).

    Any of you came across these titles or any similar?

    I've heard of Call Me By Your Name (but I imagine a lot of people have) and Carry On, but I avoided them for obvious reasons.

    I've read the summary for Detransition, Baby twice and both times blocked it out because it was the most AGP thing I'd ever read. Can't begin to tell you what it's actually about for the life of me beyond like, fucked up fetishism. Oh, and there's some book about men turning into monsters but MTFs being exempt because they take estrogen and an evil terf military.

    Oh fuck, I also remember reading the Jem and the Holograms comic reboot that Sophie I love little children Labelle helped with. It sucked so bad. I'm still mad that a child predator and friends ruined such a fun, stupid, campy series.

    Do you think these books only appeal to the people who were already submerged in SJW ways of thinking

    Yeah. Pretty much.

    [–]LordoftheFliesAmeri-kin 2.0. Pronouns: MegaWhite/SuperStraight/UltraPatriarchy 6 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

    Oh fuck, I also remember reading the Jem and the Holograms comic reboot that Sophie I love little children Labelle helped with. It sucked so bad. I'm still mad that a child predator and friends ruined such a fun, stupid, campy series.

    Wait, someone actually let that degenerate piece of meat get its filthy hands on an actual, licensed IP, in a professional capacity? Shit, they must have been tripping balls off of something really mindblending to think that was a good idea.

    [–]lunarstrain 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

    Shit. I got my troons mixed up. Was actually Sophie Campbell.

    [–]PenseePansy 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Easy to do, isn't it, when so many of 'em use the same names? Dudes-with-ladyfeelz seem to gravitate towards "Sophie"; ladies-with-dudefeelz are notoriously fond of "Aiden" (to the point that a popular synonym for "gay transman" is now Gayden).

    Somehow the former never opt for the kind of androgynous/boyish names (like Alex, Adrian, Cameron... or Aiden) that women actually tend to favor, and the latter rarely sport unstylish (yet clearly-masculine) ones a la Jeffrey, Gary, or Doug. Why, it's almost as though (gasp!) they continue to act in accordance with the gender-role they were originally assigned! SO WHAT WAS THE POINT OF THIS FUCKING "TRANSITION" THEN???

    [–]FlyingKangaroo[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

    I heard of Goodbye Volcano High... Thing simply looks cursed. I noticed Life is Strange series is pretty popular among certain wokies (at least is was for some LGBTs I met). Shit, Labelle was involved in Jem and the Holograms comic? Maybe I heard vaguely and completely forgot (or didn’t hear) but that’s just sick... BTW I hope more people will open their eyes and Labelle ends up being cancelled or something.

    [–]LordoftheFliesAmeri-kin 2.0. Pronouns: MegaWhite/SuperStraight/UltraPatriarchy 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

    Labelle ends up being cancelled or something.

    I try to not throw the term around casually or inappropriately, but that fucker absolutely deserves the "groomer" label. The hope of being cancelled is a distant one, however, because the rancid little skidmark proudly hides behind the shield of being trans and uses that to deflect all criticism as the words of "transphobes" and "terfs."

    [–]FlyingKangaroo[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Exactly. This shit is scary, a community is covering up such sickos just because they’re trans, activists, etc. But the community is found upon them as well...

    [–]lunarstrain 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    Sorry, I got Labelle mixed up with another troon. Sophie Campbell.

    [–]FlyingKangaroo[S] 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    I see, no worries. Still bad, these kind of people infiltrate someone’s else casual hobbies...

    [–]SneakyBishop 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    Some Scifi:

    https://www.amazon.com/M.-D.-Cooper/e/B008I6L0Q6%3Fref=dbs_a_mng_rwt_scns_share

    This author is a trans (MtF). Not sure if his characters are trans, but suspect they are due to some articles that pop up in the search.

    [–]FlyingKangaroo[S] 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

    The author looks super cursed.

    [–]SneakyBishop 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Yep, he sure is! 😂

    [–]Neo_Shadow_Lurker 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Anyone else thought of the growing number of books with queer characters, LGBT themes becoming more common in YA, etc.?

    Are you surprised by this? lol

    YA is geared towards teenage girls, and as we all know, they all love their slice of life yaoi fanfics and supernatural love stories.

    It's no wonder most of these books are written by women to women. Even Call Me by Your Name, which is written by a man, reflects the writing priorities of yaoi.

    This is just the Twilight of our generation, for better or for worse.

    [–]LtGreenCo 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

    Let me guess, all of these stories revolve around how the main character isn't a heterosexual, and not much else.

    [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

    What a crazy thing this was. I let myself hang back, holding the fruit in both hands, grateful that I hadn't gotten the sheet dirty with either juice or come. The bruised and damaged peach, like a rape victim, lay on its side on my desk, shamed, loyal, aching, and confused, struggling not to spill what I'd left inside.

    An excerpt from Call Me By Your Name. Bout sums things up.

    [–]FlyingKangaroo[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Damn... I’ll never understand people who read this and spend their money on this book.

    [–]detaramespez raped me 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    The fuck? I watched the movie once and it mostly sucked ass, but I didn't expect the original story to be that bad. Is this for real?

    [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Yup, according to its reviews on the page linked in the original post.

    [–]Alienhunter糞大名 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    I guess that's why we call them fruits.

    [–]myfirstyoutubevideo 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    When my novel study unit began in a high school year, 6 of the 7 optional books revolved around LGBTQIA+ stuff. It included "Call Me By Your Name" and "I Wish You All The Best", and also a book about obesity. Even the one book I chose without any queer implication in the summary had transgender discussions. So yeah it's everywhere

    [–]FlyingKangaroo[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    I pity that you had to read this stuff. What a crazy study unit.

    [–]BiHorror 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    Call Me By Your Name by Andre Aciman - written by a pedo, praised by women fetishizing gays.

    You got actual evidence? Alongside, majority of people who I seen liked the book were LGB(T) themselves. It won an award in gay fiction.

    [–]FlyingKangaroo[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    I mean, it’s not like he abused anyone (I hope not - but we don’t know, really) but in one of the interviews said a thing that was very risky and is what a pedophile would say. I cited and linked it in one of my comment above. https://saidit.net/s/TumblrInAction/comments/9kw1/queer_literature_sjw_tumblr_culture_and_the/yx6s

    I also know that many LGB(T) people enjoyed both the book and the film - there were many too who didn’t. They’re divided after all. A superficial look makes me feel this book is very popular (due to award maybe, movie, themes...) but you’ll also find LGB(T) people calling author a creep and wanting people to not read or watch this due to this connotation.

    I also know there are various spicy straights or real hetero women (but acting creepy) out there who fawn over this story.