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[–]ClassroomPast6178Problematising the things you love. 13 insightful - 6 fun13 insightful - 5 fun14 insightful - 6 fun -  (1 child)

Just sounds like narcissistic behaviour. Not getting enough attention with they/them? Switch to the Royal We.

[–]Musky 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

[–]fuck_redditThou/Thee/Thy 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Schizo behavior is associated with Leftist thinking. One example I saw recently was leftists freaking out because Elon Musk said something like: “I wonder what humanity will look like in 88 million years.” They claim that 88 stands for “Heil Hitler” in Neo-Nazi circles and were claiming Elon Musk was a crypto-fascist or some shit. Seeing patterns where there are none is a common schizo trait.

[–]VulptexMy pronouns are the/matrix 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Schizo behavior is associated with all extremes, not just the left.

[–]Q-Continuum-kin 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Schizo behavior is associated with Leftist thinking.

Wtf are you talking about? First of all that doesn't even make sense. Leftist political ideology is defined by the idea of social equality and Schizo behavior is defined by "people avoid social activities and consistently shy away from interaction with others. They also have a limited range of emotional expression."

Additionally, TRAs like OP mentioned are emotional narcissists so the exact opposite.

On your example, "the left" doesn't hate Elon Musk, liberals do. And to remind everyone, liberalism is not a left wing political ideology. It is firmly right wing. It's only "to the left" of monarchy which it replaced.

[–]jet199 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Cluster B's often seem mad but really it's lack of self control and manipulation.

[–]Femaleisnthateful 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

We need to start acknowledging that mental illness and personality disorders can be spread through social contagion. Telling people that they can adopt a reality of their own creation and bully everyone else into going along with it, and that they're victims of persecution if anyone tells them 'no', is a Cluster B personality disorder in the making.

Relatedly, we need to start controlling access to the internet, particularly for minors and the mentally ill. I have a family member currently in a psych ward for schizophrenia. He's not allowed to physically leave, but he's allowed free access to the internet via his phone. We have no way to know what rabbit holes he's going down. It's scary to me that if he starts identifying as a woman or an Otherkin or whatever, that's going to be reflexively affirmed and even endorsed by the people who are supposed to be guiding him back to reality.

[–]ClassroomPast6178Problematising the things you love. 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

We need to start acknowledging that mental illness and personality disorders can be spread through social contagion.

We already are seeing that being spotted, the sudden rise in Tourette’s symptoms in teenage girls has been noted (spread by Twitch and TikTok during lockdown) and is far less able to be wokesplained away like the rise in gender issues has been.

At the schools I’ve taught at I’ve taught online safety and the kids all get a good grounding in the risks and dangers online….and then the parents get involved. It really is down to the parents, but unfortunately too often they have little understanding and quite often little desire to remove their kid’s digital babysitter.

I have a theory that the reason that social contagion seems to be a verboten topic is that it disproportionately affects teenage girls, and people think pointing out a psychological difference between the genders is akin to saying one is superior (it’s not, boys just have different problems). I have a friend who point blank refuses to agree that men are, on average, stronger than women and it is biological not social. He just cannot do it because it would cause his underlying beliefs about men and women to crumble. He’s thoroughly rational, except with regards to biological differences between the sexes, it’s the weirdest fucking thing.

[–]Femaleisnthateful 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

It really is down to the parents, but unfortunately too often they have little understanding and quite often little desire to remove their kid’s digital babysitter.

I watched a news segment recently featuring parents whose prepubescent child died doing some stupid TikTok challenge. The parents were aware that their kid was accepting 'challenges' from strangers online but thought it was benign. Like, why? Why would you not think there were predators on these forums. I think part of the problem is that adults have become internet addicts themselves and don't want to acknowledge a problem.

[–]OuroborosTheory 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

or the minor sending "progress pictures" of their transition to Keffals and then realizing the full implication later

[–]Femaleisnthateful 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Yeah, there's a lot to unpack with regards to social media. Kids are conditioned to idolize 'influencers' and create brands for themselves online. I remember the early days of Facebook when friends would compete over how many 'friends' they had. I learned quickly that those people were superficial losers and to stay away. It seems epidemic now.

[–]ClassroomPast6178Problematising the things you love. 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The formation of parasocial relationships due to social media (YouTube, Twitch and TikTok in particular) has, without a doubt in my mind, a massive role in all of this.

[–]VulptexMy pronouns are the/matrix 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I was very prone to social contagions as a kid. I used to brag about how awkward I am like I was superior rather than merely different, and I made up fake disorders and self-diagnoses to label myself to feel special. If I had been born slightly later and maybe with a few less brain cells, I could totally see myself failling for the xenogender nonsense.

What's interesting about this is that I'm a male with gender dysphoria.

[–]OuroborosTheory 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

[–]Wanderingthehalls 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

This feels like it will be controversial even here but I am really starting to lean very much towards the idea that the more we lean towards 'mental health awareness' the more and more of a problem we are creating. I've seen it with so many people that I'm close to that they were going through a difficult time, got diagnosed with depression or a disorder like ADHD, and within months their lives had gone completely off the rails. They leaned into their diagnosis as an excuse to let everything fall apart, the medication they were put on seemed to make them unable to feel good things properly, and they just go into this spiral of excusing their inability to make their lives better because of their illness/neurodiversity while being mildly zombified. They are really unhappy, become harder and harder to spend time with, increasing their unhappiness as many of their friends start to back off. Continually fail to make positive changes in their lives, complain to everyone about their problems and illness, fail to see that sometimes life is just a bit shitty and you will feel shitty and getting through it until you can move on and up, is what you have to do. And it's like that for everyone but most people don't (or at least didn't) complain about their problems all the fucking time.

I also see it with too many kids in both my extended family and my social circle. A kid who's more active then average gets diagnosed with ADHD. A kid that has a strong interest in a particular topic is autistic. A kid who doesn't like having their hair brushed has sensory processing disorder. And too often, instead of these diagnoses being something that helps the child's family to find ways to improve their behaviour, they become an excuse and the child's behaviour worsens drastically.

[–]ClassroomPast6178Problematising the things you love. 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This feels like it will be controversial even here but I am really starting to lean very much towards the idea that the more we lean towards 'mental health awareness' the more and more of a problem we are creating.

No, I think that that’s going to be a much more widely held understanding in the years to come. We have known that “medical student syndrome” has existed for decades, why would it be any different for the population at large?

I think we went wrong when we pathologised feeling sad, we have arrived at a point where even people with a good reason for being sad are being described as having depression.

The social media cred that goes along with a “diagnosis” hasn’t helped either.

[–]VulptexMy pronouns are the/matrix 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The problem is the pressure to always be "affirming" no matter how ridiculous or even predatory it is. It's going to backfire and make everyone hate and distrust the mentally ill, because most labeled as such are faking it or deluding themselves and people don't know the difference. In fact I'm already being viewed as an inherently bad and suspicious person because of my difficulties, whereas before all this got so crazy people were supportive and didn't associate me with that. And by the way, gender dysphoria is a mental illness, and look where that's gone.

[–]OuroborosTheory 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

it's basically what we're probably seeing: and it's not "social contagion" per se

as we walk around life we classify things we see by categories we've learned: some of these are cultural--"blue" or "blue-green," "gay" or "top/bottom," but they're describing the same THING

so around 2015 you get this new category, that 1. says you don't have to have an overwhelming urge to swap sexes and 2. has been iterated to a cohort who can spend up to a decade hating the inevitable changes caused by getting older than 10 years old, treating them as an outside imposition on their bodies, as society forcing its norms onto them against all their will--no wonder a mushy, non-dysphoric attitude proves so attractive to a certain group of people aged 17-22

[–]VulptexMy pronouns are the/matrix 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Telling people that they can adopt a reality of their own creation and bully everyone else into going along with it, and that they're victims of persecution if anyone tells them 'no', is a Cluster B personality disorder in the making.

That's a trick of matrix agents to prevent people from actually escaping "reality" for real. And take away others' will in the process.

Relatedly, we need to start controlling access to the internet, particularly for minors and the mentally ill.

Oh, so you want to kick 95% of saidit users off the internet completely (because almost all of us have something, which is why we aren't normies still trying to use reddit), and kids shouldn't be able to access it either? This sounds like old times when the elites decided that only they could be trusted with information, freedom, and entertainment. This is a radically dystopian idea. I'm interested to hear whether you consider autism grounds for banning internet access.

Not only that, but the internet isn't the problem. The social contagions spread just as much irl, only a lot worse.

[–]jerkwad152 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

People who end up like that almost never breed and spread their defective genes, so it balances out.

[–]VulptexMy pronouns are the/matrix 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Can confirm, I could've succumbed to that easily had I been born just a few years later. I have absolutely no interest in sex and the main thing I get off on is bondage by itself.

[–]SolidSnek 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Wokies trying to figure out if the phone ringing they are hearing is their schizophrenia or the calls coming from inside the house.

[–]Musky 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

None of the schizos here seem to be non-binary.

There's different groups of people trooning out, but one of the those doing this lack anything else special about them. If you're not smart, funny, talented, or have a good personality, you can always be "interesting" by adopting a quirky new personality and cause.

We do not approve.

[–]clownworlddropout 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

There was a study that showed a frequency of 3 personality disorders per gender-special patient, the most frequent (57.1%) being narcissistic personality disorder.

[–]VulptexMy pronouns are the/matrix 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

That certainly describes most powerful redditors and moderators on the internet. And they are almost all trans, despite only 0.6% of the population being trans.

[–]clownworlddropout 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah, seriously. I suspect that a lot of them are employed by advocacy groups to spend all day online enforcing their backwards worldview and suppressing dissent.

[–]BluuDegenerate 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Wait you mean to tell me that crazy people are crazy? Shocker! The gender cult relies entirely on rejecting reality at every moment. It's not surprising that they turn completely schizo

[–]Alienhunter糞大名[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

If trans women are women, and trans women are crazy, then women are crazy.

[–]VulptexMy pronouns are the/matrix 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

People are crazy

[–]VulptexMy pronouns are the/matrix 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Embracing reality after pretending it is as they wish it to be, not rejecting it. Very important distinction.

[–]alladd 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

when you're so one of a kind you become multiple people

[–]ClassroomPast6178Problematising the things you love. 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

when you're so one of a kind you become multiple people

When you’re so insufferable you need to invent friends.

[–]Newzok 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Just garden variety narcissism.

[–]JasonCarswellSisyphus / Ouroboros 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

[–]VulptexMy pronouns are the/matrix 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

No, I notice a correlation with confused young girls with social problems. 99% of them don't transition in any way. Wearing different outfits and dying your hair blue doesn't count as transitioning.

The schizos are usually the ones who are for real. Schizophrenia is linked to gender dysphoria and numerous other things which are all linked together. Autism, ADHD, schizophrenia, depression, anxiety, and gender dysphoria tend to come in a package. This is distinct from people who are deluded by schizophrenia into believing they actually are a different gender, but it can be hard to tell for the uninformed. The latter would not attempt to transition, because why would they when in their mind they already are said gender.

[–]chadwickofwv 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Are you saying there is a distinction between schizophrenic weirdos and non-binary weirdos? I can't tell them apart.