Why would gay people support Ts when the entire ideology contradicts homosexuality?

Clownowski · 2022-12-12T22:52:10+00:00

I never understood why trannies are even allowed into the LGB community in the first place. Absolute majority of these fuckers are exclusuvely attracted to the opposite genitals and regulary have heterosexual sex with the opposite gender. A literal crossdressing heteros with the extra steps. Homos are fucking retarted for tolerating and openly supporting this shit.

Datachost · 2022-12-12T21:10:45+00:00

A variety of reasons. There are those who are afraid of speaking out. There are those who fell for "You know how you guys were treated? That's how we're being treated now" and can't be bothered to even give it a cursory glance before believing it. Then there are the "I'm alright, Jack"s, gay people who are married or in longterm relationships who don't care what effect it has on younger gay people, they know they'll never have to prove they actually mean what they're saying and it makes them look good.

clownworlddropout · 2022-12-13T03:04:47+00:00

Their whole ideology is untenable, nobody in their right mind thinks gender lives in a vacuum separate from sex or that a person's stated "gender identity" is worth any more than a polite nod and a right-then-anyway. This era and this utter, utter, nonsense is an embarrassment to our society that future generations will cringe at. I just hope they'll know not all of us were batshit crazy.

jet199 · 2022-12-13T07:43:40+00:00

Lets face it, a lot of gay men are just selfish arseholes and they see trans as a trojan horse to get their dodgy stuff socially accepted (bad behaviour, sexual incontinence, kink, misogyny, victimhood narrative, and let's not talk about the kids) just as much as the troons are using gay people.

alladd · 2022-12-13T14:11:00+00:00

Because trans people make gay people look normal by comparison.

"Oh you thought a man kissing a man was weird? How about a man who chops his dick off and dresses in thongs and diapers so he can have heterosexual sex with a woman while calling himself a baby lesbian? Yeah being gay ain't so weird anymore is it"

Wanderingthehalls · 2022-12-13T08:39:30+00:00

Up until relatively recently there was a clear distinction between transsexual and transvestite, both of which come under transgender now. There are a hell of a lot more of the latter, which are straight men with a fetish for themselves as a woman. Whereas most of the old school transsexuals were gay men who wanted to be women to justify their attraction to men and have more men be attracted to them, people like Blair White for example. So it was natural that these men were included by adding the T, because they were gay men. Adding the T was at the time an acknowledgement of biological reality.

It's only since the move was made to make all men in dresses transgender and the inclusion of transvestites as part of the "community" that it became a massive contradiction. But it was done slowly enough that a lot of LGB people and "allies" haven't cottoned on to the fact that the Trojan horse is full of perverts.

NerveActive · 2022-12-14T16:05:15+00:00

It started because in the past most trans people were homosexual (for example, a MTF who is attracted to men). Now that it changed, LGB still support the T because they are being brainwashed by the media or are scared of speaking against it. For many gay people, LGBT spaces are the only places we can receive help/support or find other people like ourselves and not feel so alone, so the thought of being kicked out of them is scary. Besides, if you get branded a transphobe you are fucked, you will be doxxed, treated like shit and maybe even lose your job and be physically assaulted.

Newzok · 2022-12-12T23:46:13+00:00

All of this shit is down to them confusing sex and gender, yet again. But they're being conflated after being said to be separate by the same people.

So, I'm attracted to your sex, not really your gender. Gender is just your, like, social role and not really interesting unless it corresponds to your sex. I'm a homosexual, not a homogenderophiliac or whatever. Your pronoun, social role, clothing are entirely secondary to your sex.

Adventurous_Ad6212 · 2022-12-13T21:50:23+00:00

The only people in the lgbt who support the groomer tranny pedos are groomer tranny pedos and middle class white liberal women.

Alienhunter · 2022-12-12T22:32:50+00:00

So honestly, I think if you want to look into it, we actually don't know that much about human sexuality beyond things self-reported. There's no DNA test or blood test we can do or any kind of physical marker we can point at that indicates if one is gay or not. (Or trans) And while people say that their sexuality has always been the way it has been, and I'm certain they believe that, there's always been other documented cases of people who go through a "phase" and then eventually stop being "gay". Or they figure out they weren't gay the whole time, or something. With a lack of any real scientific evidence for a "root cause of gayness", there's some studies that show autism is more common with gay people, but not all autistics are gay and not all gay people are autistic either, so it's not really a cause.

Where I think the issue began to get conflated was how being gay was "treated" in the past, by torturing the gay people or sterilizing them until they stopped being gay, which was horrid. And the popular cultural trend of believing it was an unchangeable innate trait began to take hold then. I've never believed it to be a conscious choice. But I do think that being gay might be similar to how fetishes work, in that they aren't exactly innate, there may be some kind of genetic influence there, but developmental experiences might also trigger it. I don't think it's well understood by anyone really and we're dealing with a very inexact science of human sexuality.

So I think simply with the pretty shit treatment that gay people got in the past when they were treated like a disease and castrated or tortured into choosing to be straight, the gay community as a whole is understandably very anthemic to ideas like there's any component of choice or mental abnormalities behind sexuality, since they believe (correctly I believe) that you'll have people use that as justification to either discriminate against gay people or to justify various attempts at conversion therapy or whatnot. So when it comes to trans people, I think they apply the same logic, even though one could argue that sex reorientation is a form of conversion therapy itself. I have a personal suspicion that trans-identification is more likely in very conservative areas with strictly defined gender rolls. But it's also important to point out that I think there's about four or so different root causes behind trans-identification as well and it's merely an umbrella term we use to describe everyone who identifies as the opposite sex regardless of why they are doing so.

Fiyanggu · 2022-12-13T02:21:16+00:00

Group think is not conducive to critical thinking. Also, the echo chambers ad not conducive to free exchanges or debate. You either fall in line or you're banned. Now that toxic attitude has move to real life with real repercussions for people who dare to express thoughts that are no in line with woke virtue. A hilarious example of this is DeLeon, the LA councilman who refuses to step down for his participation in conversation with other Hispanic council members where one of them called the adopted black son of another council member, a little monkey in Spanish. She was immediately canceled and had to step down, but he's clinging on to power. If he's successful, you can expect to see him reaching for power at the national level maybe as a senator or congressman and more. I'm sure Newsom will try to work with him. And then you'll see the contagion of left coast madness infecting DC even more.

Alienhunter · 2022-12-13T02:05:35+00:00

What i find very bizarre is that i've seen stories on the lgbt subreddits where whenever their partner comes out as trans that the homosexual person needs to respect their partners choice and identity despite being uncomfortable with it.What gives?

People are making up shit for karma on Reddit?

I mean I'd not be surprised if some of these cases are real. But I think most stuff on Reddit is made up now.

There's a subreddit /r/mypartneristrans or something that's supposed to be a support group for partners of trans people. And I've browsed it a couple of times and gotten widely the sense that, most partners are not happy with it. But anyone posting there is already not in the "Lol why put up with it just break up" camp because they'd already have done it, or they'd be banned for saying it. So are the people there real? Or is it just trans people larping for what their "ideal" partner should be so they can then send their partner over there and go "look see these people made it work"

Tbf though I think almost all the relationship stuff on Reddit is fake.

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