If the mind/body mismatch was true then what should the body of a non binary or gender fluid person look like?

submitted by jacques1102 from self.TumblrInAction

So, i'm not saying i believe in that nonsense, but i could understand the idea of a man who sees his body as a woman.However, what i don't understand is how would a Nb or GF person's body look like?Take away clothing and makeup and what should the body itself look like if you have that kind of brain?Since they say they identify as neither sex or both then should their bodies be asexual(the biological one.Not the sexuality) and intersex?If for arguments sake that's true then what exactly would be the evolutionary purpose of having a human with a brain that believes they're asexual(no sex) or both sexes?This honestly wouldn't even make any sense from an evolutionary viewpoint.If TRAs pull the gender is just a social construct and has nothing to do with biological sex then why should anyone care about what someone identifies as?Why should anyone take the trans community seriously if you claim it doesn't matter and as such is a pointless label?

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[–]alladd 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

NB people don't really have any body dysmorphia issues. Their identity is a reactive one; without a contrasting Other to pretend to be better and more interesting than, their identity has no internal definition of its own. It doesn't exist when they are alone. Even the title non-binary does not define a gender but a category of gender, alluding to its pointlessly defiant motivation: I'm whatever everyone else isn't.

[–]jet199 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Unfortunately there are lots of people getting nullification surgery now.

[–]alladd 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'd group NB people into two categories, which are bored kids looking for attention (~99%), and then BME weirdos who like how depersonalizing the label is (and were probably identifying as a snake or something five years ago). The latter group was never going to make it. The former might be pushed by the latter into considering some weird shit, but hopefully they're not so myopic and narcissistic that they go through with it.

[–]Greykittymomma 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

It is funny I notice lots of female NBs practicing polyamory (lol) and even doing OnlyFans (girls with low self-esteem/daddy issues who want the privileges of womanhood without the baggage...)

I usually see males going full trans and they always need to show off their dick and balls in skimpy women's clothing (perverts with mommy issues)

Main issue: parent your weird ass kids

[–]jet199 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

So basically the women have been abused as kids.

[–]Wanderingthehalls 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

If non binary exists then everyone is non binary. I doubt there are many women who only like traditionally women's thing or men who only like traditionally men's things. I'm about as "non binary" as it gets. I have long hair but I don't wear makeup. I wear men's underwear and a bra. I'm visibly muscular and hourglass and I love both of those things about my body. I do diy, basic mechanics and I knit and crochet. I love sci-fi but have also seen every episode of Downtown Abbey. I absolutely live for being a mother but my second favourite thing is being strong and athletic.

I know quite a few women who call themselves NB and not one single one of them is even remotely as "masculine" as I am. Not that I'm masculine, I'm simply a woman with a range of interests. And it's weird as fuck that after hundreds of years of people fighting to stop being limited in their interests based on their sex. We finally get to a place where people are pretty much free to just like what they like. Then this next generation want to box us all back up so they can claim to be special.

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Ever played with GI Joe?

[–]clownworlddropout 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Maybe Pat from those old SNL sketches?

Also, saying gender is just a social construct is a bigger social construct than gender itself, and one built on sand. Sex is the key component of gender and is what informs our concepts surrounding gender.