Surprise: People With Gender Dysphoria Are Mentally Ill, and Remain So After Transition

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[–]hfxB0oyADon't piss on my head & tell me it's raining. 6 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 3 fun -  (10 children)

"Obviously that's not true"

  • Munschausen's mom who just ruined her child's life.

[–]notafed 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

Imagine being that mother. Imagine that you push your kid into transitioning. Then your kid "decides" that he or she is what he or she was born as.

You now have two options.

  1. Admit you were wrong and have ruined their life, and accept the consequences.

  2. Double down. Tell your child that they're just confused and that once they finish their "transition" they'll understand.

[–]hfxB0oyADon't piss on my head & tell me it's raining. 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Not that i watch it, but from the little that I've seen, option 2 is what the mom of that poor Jazz Jennings kid seems to have taken. I wonder if he'll end up bringing her with him when the time comes?

[–]notafed 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I fully expect that will be the case. Jazz is going to explode one day and take her with him.

[–]Haylstorm 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Really feel bad for that kid.

Like even if they're actually trans that media presence and pressure on you cannot be healthy. Every moment of your life there for everyone to see...that's my idea of hell and that's just all they've known.

[–]notafed 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah. He didn't deserve that. Nothing but sympathy for him.

[–]OuroborosTheory 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

haha I remember her driving across multiple state lines just to make an unannounced college "visit," perfect Skinnerian depatterning, even Donald Ewen Cameron couldn't do better

[–]hfxB0oyADon't piss on my head & tell me it's raining. 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Both she and the TLC channel people are narcissistic psychopaths.

[–]OuroborosTheory 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

it's basically the modern-day freak show, though with more detail about their conditions and people like the hoarder-cleaners or Dr. Now who do more than just nominal treatment

(also weird that all the subcultures featured on TLC have becoming annoying Tumblrite militant movements--autism, being 300 pounds, children turned into kyphotic eunuchs)

[–]M1GarandDad 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Either way, the cause of death will be reported as "transphobia", like Tinkerbell dropping dead because people don't believe in fairies.

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I suggest option three. Seppuku.

[–]UncleWillard56 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Is there any other mental disorder that is treated with encouraging it over curing it? We don't give people who hear voices hearing aids to hear them better. Add the profit motive and gender-affirming care borders on snake oil to me.

[–]notafed 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Imagine if a depressed person was encourage to kill themselves.... okay. bad example, especially if you live in Canada.

But seriously, there isn't.

[–]UncleWillard56 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

That makes no sense. Nobody is encouraging anyone to kill themselves, but the current treatment for this disorder is transition and it doesn't make much sense. If the person is deluded through the disorder, are they in the right frame of mind to make the decisions on how to treat it? Here's another question, if there was a cure available for this, would trans people even take it?

[–]notafed 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I agree. They aren't dealing with the cause, just the symptoms. And the patient is dictating the course of treatment based on completely ignorant diagnosis instead of a knowledgable doctor recommending appropriate courses of treatment.

[–]JulienMayfair 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Researchers at Johns Hopkins started tracking sex-change patients in the late 1970s-1980s and discovered the same thing: It wasn't really curing their mental distress, and outcomes were poor. They shut down their clinic.

I had a friend in grad school who transitioned FtM. Years later, he told me that he was having to quit taking testosterone because his body was finally rejecting it, causing health problems. He also said that he still suffered from the mental health problems he thought transition would cure. He ended up committing suicide.

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Yep that's why the years of counseling the requirements to live as the opposite sex for at least a year before starting transition and all the other "gatekeeping" policies used to be in place. I don't think the research ever was conclusive but I think it's reasonable to assume that for some small segment of the population the gender disphoria is their main issue and that living as the other gender does help to alieviate that. But you've got to filter out the people who might not actually be that. They might have some other mental health issues or challenge and mistakenly think it is some kind of gender dysphoria. Or perhaps they actually do have gender dysphoria but it isn't the root cause of the problems and is merely a symptom of some deeper underlying problem. And when these problems aren't solved then they become despondent when the gender transition doesn't work after making great sacrifices and life changing decisions there that are ultimately useless for them. It's really sad. The real transphobia in society I think comes from the fear of anyone to really try to look at these issues critically. The average person merely parrots what they've been told. Self identification of a mental health condition and conflating it with an identitarian political bend is exactly the kind of situation that leads to disaster and trauma. And ultimately it's a ripe field for opportunistic unscrupulous individuals to harness the capitalistic medical machine to reinact a real life version of the Sneeches.

[–]JulienMayfair 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

One of the problems with transition is that the transitioner still knows who and what they are, and they know that, for the most part, everyone else knows, too. For example, did anyone not notice the transwoman on Jeopardy yesterday, the one who was taller than everyone else in the studio and had obviously male shoulders, a male voice, and male facial bone structure? They know they're pretending. They know that everyone else knows they're pretending. It's corrosive to one's state of mind over the years.

[–]OuroborosTheory 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

probably a big part of why they crossed dysphoria off the list--people who DO have it aren't as inclined to whip it out in the girls' locker room or have period fetishes (though of course they're quite happy to flog around the suicide statistics to show themselves as the Worstest Most Persecutedest People Eva)

it's like when autism or depression were the Cool Thing to self-diagnose in like the early 2010s: it wasn't the moaning 270-lb. mooncalf shattering a 100-lb. teacher's skull because she took his Switch that they wanted as the public image: it was something QUIRKY, like wearing cat ears to school or putting a bag of chips on your head or always writing 666XXXEYUM SO GOFFICKXXX666

[–]Brewdabier 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I've always said there Mentally Il.