I need help to inform and make my Canadian-Ukrainian friend aware of what he's been missing. Good summary sources needed.

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I need help to inform and make my Canadian-Ukrainian friend aware of what he's been missing. Good summary sources needed.

He was very defensive about Ukraine (as if I was accusing the Ukrainian people as I do their government), he doesn't seem to understand there are real Nazis running that nation, and the proxy war is lead and supported by NATO, the CIA, and the West. Obviously Russia is not innocent either - and he didn't seem to grasp the historical precedents nor acknowledge the escalations since 2014 that finally motivated Russia. He seemed oblivious of what the Ukrainian government was/is doing to its own citizens, Russian or not. He consumes corporate media.

Specifically, I'm looking for a brief fair history of the escalations to the war (not supporting either side), a summary of the corrupt media propaganda and biased coverage of the war, examples of the false flags, and/or an outline covering the minority Nazi movement dominating Ukraine. I'm also hoping to refind the montage videos of countless Ukrainian Nazi salutes in various shots of individuals, groups, children, soldiers, etc.

He suggested the Nazis were a rarity to be dismissed, the way Trudeau falsely called the trucker convoy racists because only two fed psyop cosplay infiltrators waved a Confederate and Nazi flag for government photographers (who didn't cover anything else at the protest).

There are HUGE resources in Ukraine (soil/farming, mining, energy, etc) and geopolitical ramifications (supply/demand, European starvation, global position and proximity to Russia, etc) - so it's not just a culture clash of ideologies. Further, war is literally toxic on many levels.

This week any Republicans that might have been anti-war have been flipped by escalating tensions with China, who they're happy to engage. Welcome to World War 4, twenty years after 9/11 and the War Of Terror aka WW3 - just like the 20 years that separated the world wars of the last century.

If we compile enough information, perhaps it will be worth documenting on WikiSpooks.com and InfoGalactic.com.

See also:

I tried posting this a couple days ago and found no assistance.
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[–]dicknipples 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

This is what happens when you speak with normal people, Jason. They know facts. Here are some facts:

there are real Nazis running that nation

NO - it is a fact that this is NOT true

and the proxy war is lead and supported by NATO, the CiA and the West

NO - it is a fact that this is NOT true

FACTS: Russian government invaded Ukrain in 2014, to try to regain the control it had earlier, occupying the eastern region, at great cost to Ukrainians, and then early last year the Russian government invaded much more of Ukraine, committing genocide, murder, rape, torture, abduction of childen, destroying cities, displacing millions of people, fucking up several economies that depend on oil and gas, causing inflation and recession in much of Europe, but MOST OF ALL - the murder, torture, abduction, and displacement of tens of millions of innocent people who did NOT provoke the war. How can you excuse that?

[–]JasonCarswell[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

I might consider reading your shit if you weren't a proven perpetual liar, corporate shill socks.

[–]dicknipples 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

let me know when you read a lie, or a comment a corporation paid me for...

[–]JasonCarswell[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

I do, bitch.
Whether you do or don't get paid is irrelevant - you still have blind faith in authority and the corrupt establishment system. I can only suspect you get paid for every response to your obvious shill lies and trolling - so no more for you today.

[–]dicknipples 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Nothing here addresses my response to your accusations, not with arguments or evidence, and now you've added more accusations. Stay on topic and be explicit.

[–]JasonCarswell[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Liar sealion.

[–]dicknipples 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Any additional, unfounded accusations?