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[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

After all, then no one could predict the development of events.

Tons of people saw the war coming when Russia started massing troops on the border and nobody believed their "war exercise" claims. In fact, it's notable for outting several Russian shills, comrade, seeing who pushed the lie. For a while in the beginning it was pretty apparent the US had real time intel on Putin's doings. They read him like a cheap novel.

I think it's pretty obvious Putin's goal is to get the band back together and it benefits his agenda to try to cloud the issue and gaslight everyone. Oh yeah lets just ignore Russia and stop making this war so damned expensive for them. It's not like they don't want to get onto the next one already.

[–]Inuma[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

America has been funding the Nazis for eight years so it's not that hard to see provocations since 2014.

And why make it about Putin? That's truly odd...

Why recognize the Donbas republics when it's supposedly to "get the band back together?

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Why recognize the Donbas republics when it's supposedly to "get the band back together?

Why not, they'll just decide to join the new Soviet Republic later.

And why make it about Putin? That's truly odd

Because he's the guy in charge of Russia, and what Putin wants is what Russia does.

[–]Inuma[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That's missing the point that they asked for his help.

Putin has to concede to the Congress and the most powerful is the Communist Party that told him to recognize them.

[–]FuckYourMom 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

The 2014 coup, admittedly backed by US, installed pro western Nazis in power. Russia views this as bad. Russia hates nazis on a basic level, as they all have family who has died to nazis.

I saw an interview that said Ukrainians don’t view nazisism as an issue. They are Russian violence as an issue.

Prohibition of the Russian language. 38 percent say it’s their native language. 65%, or whatever, use it in daily life.

How else would they separate from Russia. A country gets to choose its national language.

forced Uakraninazation, or whatever.

I mean, this seems like tyrrany with more steps. If half the population is Russian, they might want to divide the country into two working states. Like how the US has 50 states. Maybe Ukraine needs two.

Ukraine stole land from Russia. Farm land that is important. That’s also where all the Russians live. The right part of Ukraine.

Interesting history. Russia may have motive for a war.

Ukraine developing into an anti Russia, through the elites and military.

Again, motive.

nato military exercises in Ukraine.

I find this argument compelling. All the bad stuff going on, nazis and Russian culture destruction, but military exercises on the border would provoke some kind of response.

nuclear power

I find this motive really compelling. I sympathize with Russians who say they don’t want nukes in Ukraine.

bio labs

Very compelling

8 years of shelling

Very compelling.

[–]Check_Check 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Everything you said there is bullshit. Russia is after Ukraine's resources plain and simple.

[–]FuckYourMom 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Except it’s all true.

[–]Check_Check 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Does Putin make you swallow?

[–]Inuma[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

The resources are on the east of the Dniper River, not the west.

[–]Check_Check 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

There are oil and gas reserves all over Ukraine and it's territorial waters. Eastern Ukraine is Ukraine.

[–]Inuma[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Ignoring the other resources they have such which are far larger than just oil.

And those are recognized independent republics.

[–]Check_Check 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

They aren't independent republics. They're Ukrainian territory occupied by Russian scumbags.

[–]Inuma[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

So basically, ignore the eight year civil war to dehumanize.

Got it.

[–]jet199 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (9 children)

So when are they going to go to war with NATO?

[–]Inuma[S] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (8 children)

They're already in it.

[–]Check_Check 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Lol. We both know that's not true.

[–]Airbus320 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

😮

[–]Inuma[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

You might not but given that any country that threatens the petrodollar usually gets actions just like Russia now, that speaks for itself.

[–]Check_Check 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Are you playing stupid or just stupid?

[–]Inuma[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

So your basic argument is to ignore what's going on for character attacks?

[–]Airbus320 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Its a necon troll

[–]Inuma[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Sure, but let's see how smart they are.

;)

[–]Check_Check 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

lol.