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[–]Matterofprinciple 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

What does this mean for purchasing human grade ivermectin, has the supply chain damage already been done?

[–]BlackhaloPurity Pony: Pусский бот 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Missing from the discussion, was that the FDA crack-down on doctors and pharmacists prescribing Ivermenctin in alignment with the FLCCC protocol, resulted in a run on the veterinary version, leading to the whole horse paste narrative, even before the vax was released.

[–]tomatopotato★ Free Assange ★ 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

And following that, poison center calls were exaggerated by the media like this:

"Between January and August 2020, poison control received 23 calls about ivermectin. In that same time period this year, the state poison control network has received 159 calls about ivermectin – a 591% increase.

Of the 159 calls made in 2021, 64 of them were made in the month of August, according to a health advisory released by Texas’ health department Thursday warning of the dangers of using ivermectin improperly." (USA Today)

  • No effort to cross check that 591% figure with overall usage rate increases, which were quite possibly far greater than 591%.

  • No mention that those poison center calls were quite possibly due to messing up dosage with the animal version, which can also contain additives that humans don't take well to that aren't found in the human form - all of which could have been avoided if they hadn't tried to clamp down on the basic pills that had been available prior to 2020 no problem.

A couple(?) highly suspect "studies" also popped up around this time.

[–]NetweaselContinuing the struggle 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

...the animal version, which can also contain additives that humans don't take well to that aren't found in the human form...

I asked about that when this story first broke, and got crickets.

IF the "animal version" had something in it that was good for horses, but bad for humans, they could have just said so, and avoided a lot of the controversy. But they did not. "Ivermectin itself is fine for humans under proper dosage," they could have said, "but our formulation also contains [X], which is not. If you are human, do not take our formulation." But they did not ever say that, AFAIK.

All that was said was "This says 'for horses' on the label, not 'for humans'."

I had checked on a similar human/non-human drug, and the amoxicillin for fish turned out to be the same exact pills as the amoxicillin for humans. The main difference was that one was only available from a pharmacy with a prescription, in a bottle of 30 pills, and the other could be picked up at the pet shop for a bottle of 100. Same exact pills. But the latter says "for fish" on the label, not "for humans."

Extra point... "which can also contain additives" is at least one step away from "which does also contain additives."

[–]tomatopotato★ Free Assange ★ 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I don't remember where I read about the paste containing other potentially undesirable additives. I'll try to look for it.

[–]NetweaselContinuing the struggle 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

...containing other potentially undesirable additives. I'll try to look for it.

It might, and it might not, have additives that are not good for humans to ingest.
But again, if it does.... why the hell didn't they just say so? And why didn't everyone else repeat that theoretical "say so"?

Why would you have to hunt down that info instead of it being Point One of "Why Not To Take This Stuff" in every discussion about taking this stuff this whole time?

Side note: Apparently Skittles (the candy) contain "potentially undesirable additives."

[–]Xeenophile 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Any links to the non-YouTube story they're citing - i.e. same important information without the video-banter that some find annoying and unhelpful?

[–]3andfro 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The FDA didn't "approve" IVM for C19. An FDA lawyer stated accurately that doctors have prescription authority--which doesn't prevent state medical boards from hauling up docs who prescribe it for C19 for treatment outside "community standards of care" and threatening their licenses. If the FDA recognized that IVM has therapeutic value for C19, they'd be unlikely to do that.

Doctors are free to prescribe ivermectin to treat COVID-19, a lawyer representing the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) said in August 2023.

“FDA explicitly recognizes that doctors do have the authority to prescribe ivermectin to treat COVID,” Ashley Cheung Honold, a Department of Justice lawyer representing the FDA, said during oral arguments on Aug. 8, 2023 in the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 5th Circuit. https://covid19.onedaymd.com/2023/08/doctors-can-prescribe-ivermectin-for.html

This fact may have a bearing on the agency's behavior toward IVM throughout the pandemic: The Biopharmaceutical Industry Provides 75% Of The FDA's Drug Review Budget https://www.forbes.com/sites/johnlamattina/2018/06/28/the-biopharmaceutical-industry-provides-75-of-the-fdas-drug-review-budget-is-this-a-problem/?sh=2e4b2ac849ec

[–]_Okio_ 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

This also begs for the question - has Ivermectin been compromised?

[–]InumaGaming Socialist 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

No. It's been around for 40 years.

More than likely, Merck or Pfizer made a type they can profit from.

[–]Xeenophile 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

That's why it's worth asking if it's been compromised, isn't it?

[–]InumaGaming Socialist 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's a common drug out of patent. It also has so much written documentation, the argument makes no sense.

[–]SmockSignalsDeft-Wing Rationalist 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's the 18mon delay like with the Biden laptop

[–]kingsmegLiberté, égalité, fraternité 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

Shorter FDA: "You can't sue us because we lacked the authority to ban Ivermectin outright, so go sue all the people who listened to us and prevented you from giving it to your loved ones who died, when a $5 course of Ivermectin could have saved their lives."

[–]AeoooAe 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

The hypocrisy and cynical duplicity and betrayal shown by the hospitals, the lobby-dominated medical institutions and health authorities, and its loyal and criminally submissive pawns and sycophants that call themselves doctors, is unfathomably and unbelievably spineless and evil.

Here’s 6 brilliant but also bitter truth minutes of Pierre Kory, uploaded 18 hours ago, just before this became public. How conflicted must he feel about this deeply tragic and treacherously delivered triumph?

I can’t describe how I seethe and rage about this despicable disgrace.

[–]kingsmegLiberté, égalité, fraternité 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I'll go a little bit further, he says he doesn't know how to read the medical journals now because he can't tell what is genuine research and what is shilling for big pharma. And I say we have just seen such a total breakdown in confidence in the 'elite' and all their institutions, that I now assume absolutely everything coming out of Western universities, as well as the think tank ecosystem, is fake and paid propaganda for someone, even if I can't immediately identify who benefits. Because we saw, through covid, how the system works. Someone wants to sell something, so they give grants to prostitute 'scientists', who find a way to publish findings in support of their financial backers.

How are we supposed to know what's real? Confirmation bias, simply believing everything that aligns with our prior beliefs, isn't an answer either.

[–]CrazyjanecreepyjeffReality Monger 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Empire collapse

[–]sdl5 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This.

I trust nothing now

[–]InumaGaming Socialist 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

They jacked it up to $500 during the pandemic.

[–]BlackhaloPurity Pony: Pусский бот 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Not just for the people drug, but it was pushing $300 for the horse paste too.

[–]AeoooAe 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

No way.

[–]InumaGaming Socialist 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Serious as a heart attack.

Insurance wouldn't cover it and it was HEAVILY monitored in pharmacies