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[–]Airbus320 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Turkey is pro russia now, nato failed to throw erdogan

[–]Site_sux 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

As sec blinked just explained today. And Putin already told us in February. "What this is about is Vladimir Putin's conviction that Ukraine does not deserve to be a sovereign, independent country. It's not about a threat that NATO poses"

No country should have to compromise their own security to make loser Putin feel less under threat.

Finland offer more than just a long border. They're a thoroughly militarised people, highly trained, well equipped. And Sweden are serial inventors of incredible planes (grippen!) boats (gotland!) and weapons (nlaw!).

It's a really great time to live in the free world. Everyone should feel safer knowing SE and FI are part of the alliance. Loser cancerbaby Putin has proven himself a misadvised idiot yet again

[–]Chipit[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

This move makes war much more likely, but you knew that. Warmongers always do. Because the Iraq war worked out so well, and was started by the same people who are still in office.

[–]Site_sux 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Far less likely because anyone attacking the west was two hardcore new Scandinavian badasses to worry about.

The people who stay in office for decades.... hmmm let's think who that would be....someone so undemocratic that he had his competition shot dead in public in front of the center of power....who do we know like that hmm

[–]Chipit[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Badasses? The same ones who have a rape epidemic because they invited Muslims in? The ones whose best known hero is Captain Sweden?

NATO allies are worthless sponges who contribute nothing. They laughed at us when we told them to take responsibility for their own defense.

[–]Site_sux 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Huh so why is Putin so afraid of nato if that's true? I'd laugh at you too, you're very laughable

[–]Chipit[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)


[–]raven9 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

That is a lie. That is not even remotely what Putin said. This is what he actually said:

We can see that the forces that staged the coup in Ukraine in 2014 have seized power, are keeping it with the help of ornamental election procedures and have abandoned the path of a peaceful conflict settlement. For eight years, for eight endless years we have been doing everything possible to settle the situation by peaceful political means. Everything was in vain.

As I said in my previous address, you cannot look without compassion at what is happening there. It became impossible to tolerate it. We had to stop that atrocity, that genocide of the millions of people who live there and who pinned their hopes on Russia, on all of us. It is their aspirations, the feelings and pain of these people that were the main motivating force behind our decision to recognise the independence of the Donbass people’s republics.

I would like to additionally emphasise the following. Focused on their own goals, the leading NATO countries are supporting the far-right nationalists and neo-Nazis in Ukraine, those who will never forgive the people of Crimea and Sevastopol for freely making a choice to reunite with Russia.

They will undoubtedly try to bring war to Crimea just as they have done in Donbass, to kill innocent people just as members of the punitive units of Ukrainian nationalists and Hitler’s accomplices did during the Great Patriotic War. They have also openly laid claim to several other Russian regions.

If we look at the sequence of events and the incoming reports, the showdown between Russia and these forces cannot be avoided. It is only a matter of time. They are getting ready and waiting for the right moment. Moreover, they went as far as aspire to acquire nuclear weapons. We will not let this happen.

I have already said that Russia accepted the new geopolitical reality after the dissolution of the USSR. We have been treating all new post-Soviet states with respect and will continue to act this way. We respect and will respect their sovereignty, as proven by the assistance we provided to Kazakhstan when it faced tragic events and a challenge in terms of its statehood and integrity. However, Russia cannot feel safe, develop, and exist while facing a permanent threat from the territory of today’s Ukraine.

Let me remind you that in 2000–2005 we used our military to push back against terrorists in the Caucasus and stood up for the integrity of our state. We preserved Russia. In 2014, we supported the people of Crimea and Sevastopol. In 2015, we used our Armed Forces to create a reliable shield that prevented terrorists from Syria from penetrating Russia. This was a matter of defending ourselves. We had no other choice.

The same is happening today. They did not leave us any other option for defending Russia and our people, other than the one we are forced to use today. In these circumstances, we have to take bold and immediate action. The people’s republics of Donbass have asked Russia for help.

In this context, in accordance with Article 51 (Chapter VII) of the UN Charter, with permission of Russia’s Federation Council, and in execution of the treaties of friendship and mutual assistance with the Donetsk People’s Republic and the Lugansk People’s Republic, ratified by the Federal Assembly on February 22, I made a decision to carry out a special military operation.

The purpose of this operation is to protect people who, for eight years now, have been facing humiliation and genocide perpetrated by the Kiev regime. To this end, we will seek to demilitarise and denazify Ukraine, as well as bring to trial those who perpetrated numerous bloody crimes against civilians, including against citizens of the Russian Federation.

[–]Site_sux 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Dude you believe in alien invasion fake news blogs, no wonder your connection to reality is so thin here.

staged the coup in Ukraine in 2014

It wasn't a coup, it was a return to elections. Nobody has ever produced a scrap of evidence for the 'coup" theory.

supporting the far-right nationalists and neo-Nazis in Ukraine

More nonsense conjecture. We support Ukraine. Russia quite provably supports fascists like La Lega, Marine Le Pen, Austria freedom party, alternative for Germany.

You've got to admit. If there was some far-right nationalist force in Ukraine, it would join all it's European brethren in siding with Russia.


More conspiracy theory and unproven nonsense from the guy who reads alien invasion blogs + serb ethnonationalist fake news, and incorporates it to his worldview. You're full of it my friend

[–]raven9 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Who is paying you to troll this sub? I mean do you think you're dumb lies are fooling anyone? Everyone here can see you are a just another government liar and you are not my friend. I despise you people and everything you claim to stand for.

[–]minion531 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Shows just how stupid Putin is. Almost every NATO member has increased defense spending by a significant amount. On top of that, Sweden and Finland, both normally neutral countries, have decided it's not safe to not be a part of NATO. Because of Russia. And of course Moldova and Kosovo also want NATO membership.

So it great, the US has to do nothing but rally NATO to keep supplying arms to Ukraine, and Ukraine degrade the Russian Army until they have lost their experienced soldiers, and their best and newest military equipment. And Sanctions, while making the oil money good, make it very difficult for Russian Arms factories to work. And it's costing the US pennies on the dollar, as compared to fighting a war ourselves. So let's recap. It's great for the USA. It's great for NATO. And it sucks balls for Putin and Russia the fascist country where people have no rights and the opposition is murdered as elections are rigged. Sorry, Russia is going out of style.