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[–]magnora7 13 insightful - 3 fun13 insightful - 2 fun14 insightful - 3 fun -  (10 children)

This is why blaming Zionists for our governmental and geopolitical situation is far more accurate than blaming "the Jews". There are many non-Jewish Zionists. George Bush is another one. Christian Zionists, who have Israel first in their mind, and America second.

And then on top of that as another reason to be accurate, there are many anti-Zionist Jews. About half of American Jews flatly reject Zionism or the goals of Zionism: https://mondoweiss.net/2012/09/the-true-crisis-of-zionism-silent-majority-of-us-jews-have-never-supported-it/

So once you understand the distinction between Jews and Zionists, and why the difference matters, it's a lot easier to understand what is going on. A lot of Jews are fighting Zionism. A lot of Zionists aren't Jews.

And furthermore blaming the Jews is actually a convenient way for the Zionists to hide from scrutiny, so the Zionists would actually love people to inaccurately blame the Jews, so people don't pay attention to the Zionists and what they are doing, and how they are coordinated.

And the final capstone on this discussion is that Freemasonry is basically Christian Zionism, and a good portion of politicians are Freemasons, and this is public information.

Once you truly wrap your head around all this, you can never un-see it.

[–]Jesus 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

It is a fervent ideology of revisionism that abolished the religious beliefs of Judaism incorporating its biblical nationalistic characteristics. It further ramped up in the 15th centuries because Jews were persecuted in the Spanish inquisition where a large swathe had either stuck to their faith in secret or renounced it completely, believing in the revisionist blood purity or hereditary belief of being a Jew and having pride in its alleged ethnicity rather than its religious morals.

Interestingly, many Orthodox Jews did not believe atheistical Jews were Jews at all. Religion determined if you were Jewish. Most Jews are assimilationist Jews, and if we take into account their apparent ethnic origins to the 12 tribes of Israel, which is nearly impossible to prove, many of these Jews are not Zionists but are neutral in their belief of it. Others are fervently Zionist, espeically a large majority of Jews situated in Israel, whilst Iraqi Jews, who were terror bombed by the Iraqi Zionist organization were staunchly against Zionism.

Then you have the atheistical neoconservatives who I call ZioCons. Because they pretend not be Zionists when many of them have direct ties to the Likudniks and worked within Netanyahu's government.

We know it cannot be all Jews, nor all Catholics, nor all Christians, nor all communists, it cannot be all of anything, including these Zionists but it is clear they have a stronghold on America's foreign policy. Reading public archives illustrates that people get together to scheme for their own benefit, we saw this all theoughout the 19th and 20th centuries with the establishment of the banking scheme using the mythological Lincoln as a way to silence anyome from questioning the true proponets of the scam. They were greenbackers! Many were American indusyrialists but others were from Swiss Ashkenazi Jewish families, and staunch supporters of a return to Israel. Families like the Warburgs, Seligman's who had onr of, if not the biggest hand in the greenback forerunner scam, and the progressive income tax scam. The Loeb and Schiffs were other prominent Jewish families, Zionist or not who played a prominemt role in centralizing the state into a feudal bureaucracy.

Were all Jews the cause? Absolutely not! Were all industrialists the cause, no, of course not, but one cannot disregard the Jews, whether Orthodox or reformed, such as the Seligman's who worked to establish the FED and income tax.

A good book to start, a man who is often attacked and called an anti-Semite despite he himself being one of the few who actually sat down in a library and read publicly available historic archives, unlike the Ellen Brown and Bill Still types, is Eustace Mullins. I never wanted to read his books because I figured they were bunk and those attacking him were right, that he was an anti-Semite, when I dead them and saw that he used historic archives, and that it was simply a history of the FED and how the banking scheme rooted itself in America, I atarted to see why many Zionists were attacking him.

And as for your point about Zionism, a lot of Jews are fighting Zionism, but there are also cointelpro Jews, who pretend to fight Zionism, but are really leftist Zionists.

And furthermore blaming the Jews is actually a convenient way for the Zionists to hide from scrutiny, so the Zionists would actually love people to inaccurately blame the Jews, so people don't pay attention to the Zionists and what they are doing, and how they are coordinated.

Agreed but many Zionists are Jews too. So, attacking Zionists, for many neutral Jews can also make you look anti-Semitic.

[–]magnora7 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

So, attacking Zionists, for many neutral Jews can also make you look anti-Semitic.

I would argue that they aren't exactly neutral if that's their reaction. Zionists have created a paradigm by conflating themselves with the whole of Judaism, whereas a very large percentage of Jews do not see it that way.

It's a kind of overton window adjustment on the international conversation, they've redefined the 'neutral' center in such a way that it gives Zionists the appearance of fully representing all Jews, when many many Jews totally disagree with that, and disagree with a lot of what the Israeli government is doing. But those Jewish people are basically voiceless in the mainstream because the Zionists have so much power over the media.

[–]Jesus 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

I totally agree with you, but Zionists are mostly Jews, which allows them to get away with what they do, because they can use their propganda and the anti-Semitic smear to silence people. They then can propgandize the common Jew into accepting a pro-Zionist view or a neutral point of view on Zionism.

Israel was founded on Zionistic terror and its territory expanded because of Zionistic terror. So, it is hard to attack Zionists when many terrorists from the Lehi and Irgun who then go onto become prime ministers of Israel are heros of hundreds of thousands of Jews.

But other than that, I agree with you.

[–]magnora7 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

but Zionists are mostly Jews

Zionism is probably 40% Jews and 60% non-Jews at this point, tbh. They have so much Christian Zionist support. There are so many more Christians than Jews in general as well. There's only 13 million Jews in the world but over 2 billion Christians. So if even just 1% of Christians support Zionism (which is very likely, at the least) then there's more Christian Zionists than total Jews (Zionist and non-Zionist combined) in the world.

Plus there's over 6 million Freemasons alone, and they're almost all Christian-Zionists. Then add in the tens of millions of Judeo-Christians and we easily surpass the 7-10 million Jews who support Zionism.

Kind of funny to think that the majority of people supporting Zionism probably aren't even Jewish.

[–]asterias 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Kind of funny to think that the majority of people supporting Zionism probably aren't even Jewish.

For many, worshipping Jews is a sure way to financial and social success, especially for politicians. They visit some "holocaust museum", get photos with the curators and sign how sorry they are, make a point that Jewish interests are at the top of their priorities, and somehow they can get away with anything and have support from the media and a good post in the government.

In this way, many shady individuals have found their way to success, which doesn't give an exactly good name to the whole thing.

[–]kokolokoNightcrawler 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

And Jesus went into the temple of God, and cast out all them that sold and bought in the temple, and overthrew the tables of the money changers, and the seats of them that sold doves, And said unto them, It is written, My house shall be called the house of prayer; but ye have made it a den of thieves.
— Matthew 21:12–13

They've made a bank out of a temple. Within a week Jesus was murdered. Not even a mention of Zionism back then.

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Yeah, but Jesus was Jewish. He only flipped the tables because he was angry that they made a bank in a place of worship. Why would Jesus's deciples consist of money-changers, former tax collectors, a nationalistic, right-wing Jew among more peaceful deciples as well. Easy, they renouvced their practices and took up "The Way", following Jesus and his teachings.

Forgiving debts, giving to the less fortunate and needy, free of any interest.

So, his teachings are a lesson to GENTILE AND JEW alike.

[–]kokolokoNightcrawler 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Because , like I said, God saw what the hell was going on with the tribe and the strong influence of the devil in them..and so He sent a part of himself into a flesh of a jewish man to show the tribe and the devil that the salvation is possible, the pact can be broken but only through self sacrifice and total denouncing of all the sins they've institutionalized at that point.... Except Romans, there were no gentiles to be influenced by Jesus at that time in that place.... ((They))) are cursed but not beyond salvation, ofcourse.

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I would have to find a poll that is accurate in that figure, but I think you're right that a majoriry are against Zionism, espeically those situated in the diaspora, rather than Israel. Many truly have no regard for it, just like if you asked a non-Jew about Zionism and he knew not what it was, so too do many Jews have this view.

Case in point, the Ashkenazi Jews, Yiddish types and poor Jews in Russia as well as the Sephardi Jews, all these groups --- particularly the Ashkenazis, as they now treat Ethiopian Jews --- attack the other. The very poor Jews, had absolutely no idea about the ideology of Zionism, nor did they care, while many of the very rich Jews turned to political Zionism, the majority basing this ideology completely bare of a Judaic religious beliefs.

As for Christian Zionism, that has only been a very recent dispensationalist distortion of the bible. Justice Brandeis aided Scofield who was connected to the Rothschild family to write the Scofield bible which was a dispensationalist corruption that sought to make Israel the worldly Kingdom, and that Jesus would return when the Jewish diaspora was sent to Israel. Upon them, would stand the Messiah.

Scofield and many new bible translations continue to corrupt the meaning of the New Testament, which has changed the Kingdom, ie. Within tyself and around, to a worldly kingdom of Jews centered in Israel. Most likely done to further the Zionistic goal.

Even the pro-Hamiltonian ZioCons (neoconservative neo-Trotskyites) switched from their quite liberal, communist stances, to side with the right-wing Protestants hoping to obtain Zionistic support for Israel. They must have known their bible was corrupted and that they would be able to work together to foment war on the Likuds behalf.

So if even just 1% of Christians support Zionism (which is very likely, at the least) then there's more Christian Zionists than total Jews (Zionist and non-Zionist combined) in the world.

Which starts with the bible's corruption.

As for the Freemasons, all of their ritual and rite books illustrate rebuilding Solomon's Temple, Solomon certainly wasn't a religious Jew, he had hundreds of wives, as the story goes, and worshipped ashtar. I believe Freemasons, if not them being Jews or Christians, want a worldly empire as well. If Solomons temple were to be built, I would bet on it, that it would not be just a Temple for Jews but for all religions.

And third Temple building plans show, from various Hasidic Kabbalist Jews a temple with many entrances, for all religions, including Christianity, Judaism, Hinduism, Islam, Buddhism, among others. Might their be a kabbalistic occult corruption here? Certainly freemasonry is filled to the brim with the occult and esoterics.

Just a rant and thought. Peace.

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

For hundreds of years, before Nazism exclaimed on the top of their fascist lungs, that there was, indeed, a Judaic-Masonic conspiracy, all peoples knew of such a conspiracy. It was only after WW2, that this well-known and much talked about conspiracy to rule the world was attacked and forgotten.

The communitarian plan of Freemasonry, brings together the Church, corporations and the governments to create a three-legged stool. Incorporating all religions the plan is that of a social gospel, ecumenism, and global outreach.

Solomon's Temple was destroyed on the Ninth of Av. Ninth of Eleventh, an interesting number, don't you think? This, Solomon's Temple is what Freemasons strive to rebuild and it has occult significance.

“Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.” – I John 2:22

So, that would thusly include Freemasons and modern Jews who think nothing of the New Testament, that is filled with love and turning the other cheek.

According to Watch.pairsite.com, which tries to expose the Freemasonic plot, we read:

The spirit of Freemasonry is that of Judaism in its most fundamental beliefs; its ideas are Judaic, its language is Judaic, its very organization, almost, is Judaic. Whenever I approach the sanctuary where the Masonic order accomplishes its works, I hear the name of Solomon ringing everywhere, and echoes of Israel. Those symbolic columns are the columns of that Temple where each day Hiram’s workmen received their wages; they enshrine his revered name.

The whole Masonic tradition takes me back to that great epoch when the Jewish monarch, fulfilling David’s promises, raised up to the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, a religious monument worthy of the creator of Heaven and earth––a tradition symbolised by powerful images which have spread outside the limits of Palestine to the whole world, but which still bear the indelible imprint of their origin.” – (Parisian Jewish review, La Vérité Israélite, vol. V, p. 74, 1861)

The Ritual of the Degree of Kabalistic and Hermetic Rose has th[is] passage:

“The true philosophy, known and practised by Solomon, is the basis on which Masonry is founded.” – Morals & Dogma, p. 785

  • The Jewish Study Bible has mistranslated the Messianic prophecy in Isaiah 9:5-6 so that it applies to a previous king of Israel, i.e. King Solomon.

For a child has been born to us, And authority has settled on his shoulders. 
>He has been named

“The Mighty God is planning grace; 
>The Eternal Father, a peaceable ruler”– 
>In token of abundant authority 
>And of peace without limit
Upon David’s throne and kingdom, 
>That it may be firmly established 
>In justice and equity
Now and evermore, 
>The zeal of the LORD of Hosts
 Shall bring this to pass.

Because King Solomon is so highly revered by occultists as a Master of the secret doctrine, and because there is evidence in the Old Testament that Solomon brought the occult arts into the nation of Israel, which was at peace and prospered materially during his reign...

World Jewry is being led to expect that the Messiah will be a priest-king who is the reincarnation of Solomon.

[–]TheAnon 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

He's a career politician, it's impossible to be one without kissing the AIPAC ring. We have a government occupied by a hostile force and until that changes our country will continue to deteriorate.