This guys story about being a prisoner in "the troubled-teen industry" should be read by everyone. It's a bitter dose of reality but is very well done and you'll know more about a powerful industry which only still gets away with corruption on this level because so many people don't know about it.

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[–]ReeferMadness 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

I learned absolutely nothing. It's just a lot of bitching.

People who feel bad about this have no concept of how fucked up "troubled teens" can be. They imagine this is done for no reason. That just isn't the case.

[–]iraelmossadreddit 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

parents drop their kids off at juvienille centers all the time just because the kid wont sumbit to them like a dog and they are terrible parents

[–]ReeferMadness 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Is that what happened to this guy, or is that something you made up because he is the protagonist of the story and you want to be "on his side"?

[–]iraelmossadreddit 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Well you said they imagine it is done for no reason and that isn't case. well they do do it for no reason other than they suck at being a parent. sure some kids might be some crazy physco chucky murder child that needs to be restrained in a detention center but I think that's pretty rare.

[–]ReeferMadness 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Why do you think it is rare? Why do you think it is common for people to literally have their kids locked up because they are just bad parents? Why do you imagine that anyone would be able to just drop their kids off like that? Do you really think that there is zero oversight? That there doesn't need to be any evidence that these kids need this kind of intervention? That there are no other adults in their lives besides their parents? That if these kids were really innocent and being abused by the system that there would be no recourse?

So much insanity would need to be true for your simple claim, and that is what you don't seem to understand.

Literally no one ever said this kid didn't do some fucked up shit. YOU made that up. Why?

[–]iraelmossadreddit 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

So much insanity would need to be true for your simple claim

you need to wake up

[–]ReeferMadness 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah ok. Everyone who doesn't accept your insane claims without proof is asleep.

[–]tomatosplat 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Nobody should have anything to do with this shit. Spank your kids while they're young and avoid the whole damn thing. It's really that easy.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

These places aren't cheap, you don't just send your kid there because you don't want to spank them. My parents had considered it for my brother. He had OCD back when almost nobody knew what that was. I believe that was responsible for making him a violent uncontrollable monster who tore apart our family.

They tried everything, nothing worked. I mean decades of therapy, meds, different approaches, different experts... absolutely nothing worked. Sending him away was a last ditch measure but ultimately they didn't want to spend $60k on a program like that because it's not a secret they're not nice places.

A lot of people were affected by this one aberrant individual, generations of people. And they still are, and will continue to be. I love him, he's my brother, but it would have been better for everyone else if he had an "accident" as a child.

The last time he attacked me, he tried to kill me over a jar of salsa. Broke another damn chair over my back. These aren't normal people. This is most likely a level of behavior you have never witnessed before. It's not normal or common, but those are the kind of kids these places exist for.

[–]jet199 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Likely such people actually enjoy strict order and rules as well.

No one gets killed over a jar of salsa if everyone knows and obeys the salsa rules.

[–]iraelmossadreddit 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

there are free ones in every state... it's pretty disturbing...

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

You sure? This is what I found at a glance:

The private programs, partially funded with government cash, come out of the pockets of desperate parents. The schools are overwhelmingly based in Utah, with its vast wilderness landscapes fit for rugged outdoor experiences. According to a 2015 study out of the University of Utah, “The Family Choice Behavioral Healthcare Interventions Industry” raked in $328,702,999 in 2015, with most of the cash coming in from out of state.

The Salt Lake Tribune reported that 12,000 kids have collectively been sent to Utah, home to about 100 programs, in the past five years, with each sojourn costing at least $30,000.

https://nypost.com/2020/09/14/paris-hilton-documentary-explained-whats-breakingcodesilence/

[–]iraelmossadreddit 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

no, I got dropped off at one before and I assure you my parents didn't have enough money for anything

check this

https://starr.org/

“I love that saying, 'There is no such thing as a bad kid.' I

this is where they sent david allen coe lol...

they have places like this all over the country... they are usually told about to parents by phschologits

here is info about florida: http://www.djj.state.fl.us/services/prevention/youthprograms

Have persistently disobeyed the reasonable and lawful demands of the child’s parents or legal custodian, and to be beyond their control.

so if that kid is not doing as you demand you drop em off there...lol Of course kids should probably listen to their parents but this seems a little far...

then they go to these places and get beaten by staff or sexually abused...

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I imagine it was not a great experience