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It seems counter-productive to be related to the Rothschilds and not only imprison one of them but also get their biggest puppet (Churchill) to deny multiple peace offers...

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Politics today is like WWE wrestling; same back then too: the war was a stageplay.

If you take Ludendorff's comments as true, which I do, that the Systems of Force in the world were: [1] The inner Jewish circle and their servants in the Grand Orient of France; [2] The Vatican and the General of the Jesuits and [3] Atheistic Bolshevism

then the idea Hitler operated outside the sway of those three "supernational forces" becomes patently absurd. Ludendorff casually speaks of the supernational forces stacking the Reichstag with National Socialists to carry on another war (written 1931).

The intelligence from General Ludendorff is simply the regime, babe. This OP is the disinformation agent.

The detailed information comes from Bronder, a book never properly translated into English, but the electronic translation is here:

You can tell OP is a disinfo guy, because he knows to avoid Bronder, C.H. Douglas, Erich Ludendorff, Douglas Reed and Hennecke Kardel as sources.

But we can all agree on this: If it was Hitler's plan to stop the Jews, he did a terrible job.

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  • Hitler’s role was to root out opposition to International Jewry in Europe and lead it to destruction… The powerful Allies handed Hitler early successes in order to give Hitler prestige among the Germans so that they would happily march into the WW2 slaughterhouse under his leadership… To kill the Germans wholesale they had to be united first under the Fuhrer.

Apart from there being no evidence to support this horrible hypothesis, this opinion itself is nonsensical. If the deliverance of Germany into the hands of Jewish World Government was truly Hitler’s goal, then all he had to do was allow the failed Weimar Republic to continue imploding. Had Germany fallen to Bolshevism in the early 1930’s, which it certainly would have were it not for Hitler’s dynamic leadership, it would have been “game over” for all of Europe; no opposition to International Jewry.

Zionists didn’t need a World War to scare Jews into Palestine, the Communist International, their proxy, could have easily been used to drum up “false flags” to threaten European Jews to return back to their desert “homeland”. Uncontrolled Arab immigration and terrorism brought into Europe, for instance, would have done the trick quite well.

No early successes were “handed over” to Hitler. Every economic, social, political and military conflict he faced was courageously countered. Hitler’s rise to chancellor, the Austrian “Anschluss”, the return of Sudetenland after the Munich Conference, the success of the German Sudetenland, the blitzkrieg into Western Europe, etc. were all well documented examples of his will & determination to succeed, however, you won’t easily come across this documentation since it has been suppressed.

  • Germany was destined to fail. There was no way Germany could win World War 2. For this reason Hitler wanted to lose the war. On the contrary, the war was potentially winnable for Germany, like it was for Germany in the 1st World War. Many Europeans believed that Germany (Axis Powers) would win.

Before the World War 2 started, both America & England had strong anti-war factions; many of its people were still reeling from the horrible aftermath of World War 1, which sent many soldiers home in body bags.

Once the war started, it wasn’t a guarantee that America would enter the conflict, although there was no doubt that International Jewry was pushing for it. If it wasn’t for Germany being sabotaged from the inside, to the betrayal of elements within the German aristocracy and their potential role in assisting the British in cracking the “Enigma Code”, plus Italy’s opportunistic adventures, attacking Greece and stirring up conflict in North Africa, Germany could have knocked out Russia in 1941 before the unpredictable harsh winter storm came.

  • The European Union is a “Nazi invention”.

The European Union is invention of International Jewry & Richard Coudenhove-Kalergi, the actual father of the European Union, a puppet (shabbos goy) of the Jewish bankers, Rothschild, Warburg and Baruch. Kalergi admitted in his autobiography that he was funded by these Jews.

SS Reichofficer, Dieter Schwarz, exposed Jewish Freemasonry in 1938. He written a pamphlet revealing Kalergi’s plan to genocide Europeans, destroy the races and make Jews the rulers over the entire world. This plot was openly endorsed by Kalergi’s fellow Jewish Freemasons.

Hitler and National Socialist Germany actually had successful plans to increase the German birthrate to combat the Kalergi Plan.

What was the Zionist/Masonic master plan? The merger of Communism with Capitalism into a singular supra-governmental body (UN/EU) Harry Dexter White and Henry Morgenthau, advisors of Roosevelt, established the World Bank and IMF at the 1944 Brettonwoods Conference The Eurasian-Negroid race of the future, as predicated by 33rd degree Freemason Coudenhove Kalergi. The SS identified the "Pan-European" idea (European Union) to be a sinister project set up by Freemasons and Jewish finance.

Adolf Hitler himself referred to Kalergi in the following explicit terms: "Rootless, cosmopolitan bastard" "Biggest bastard in the world" Kalergi had to flee Austria for England, he was placed on the Gestapo arrest list "Sonderfahndungsliste G.B."

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Note: Partial list of closures… Symbolic Grand Lodge of Germany, Freemasons for Rising Sun (Hamburg), Grand Lodge to the Sun (Bayreuth), Big Masonic Lodge concord (Darmstadt), Big Mother Lodge of Freemasons Eclectic Federal (along with all daughter lodges), Grand Lodge of Hamburg, German Christian Order of Saxony (Dresden), German Christian Order German Cathedral (Leipzig),  Grand National Mother Lodge “The 3 Globes” (Berlin), Grand Lodge of Prussia “Royal York of Friendship (along with all daughter lodges) (Berlin), Odd Fellow Order, Druid Order, Order of Rechabites, Grand Lodge “Le Droit Humain” (Co-Freemasonry), International Working Men’s Masonic Lodge, Workers Freemasonry, The Finniere “The Open Temple”  (Winkelloge in Leipzig), Lodge of the Creator “Colonis”  e. v. Order of the Knights of the Holy Grail (Berlin), Frankfurt am Main, Anthroposophical Society, Mazdaznan Movement, Ebdar (Sworn Brotherhood of the Ancient Rites), Order of the Holy Grail, In the East of Patmos (organization Bo Yin Ra), Oriental Templar Order (O.T.C.), Fraternity of Saturn (including Esoteric Study Society), Orion Association (Adonis Table Sect Dr. Musallam Sattler), Rosicrucian Society in Germany, Grail Medal (norusnin sect), Grand Lodge “True Way”, (Hannover), “Way to Light” Spiritualist Lodges (Magdeburg), Summum Supremum sanctuary of the Old Scottish Rite of Freemasonry in Germany, Swedenborgian Rite of Freemasonry, Oriental Templars, Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn, Misraim Rite 90 degrees, Oriental Memphis Rite 97 degrees, Age and accepted Rite of Heredom, Hermetic Brotherhood of Light, Fraternitas Rosae Crucis, New Gnostic Church, New Illuminati, General Pansophical School, Pansophical Societat (corporate mergers), Association of German Freemasons (Leipzig), Masonic association “Word and Deed” (Frankfurt), and the Order of the Illuminati  (THE ILLUMINATI founded in 1776).

As part of their propaganda campaign against Freemasonry, the National Socialists and other local right-wing organizations mounted anti-Masonic exhibitions throughout occupied Europe to educate the public.

In a few years, Freemasonry had been completely eradicated from Europe under the National Socialist regime; the Allies on the other hand were being led by Freemason members, Franklin D. Roosevelt, Winston Churchill, Joseph Stalin and Harry Truman.

Note: “Forces occultes”, subtitled “The mysteries of Freemasonry”, was a French National Socialist film, released in 1943.  It was commissioned in 1942 by the Propaganda Abteilung, a delegation of Germany’s propaganda ministry, within occupied France, by the ex-Mason, Jean Mamy.  It virulently denounces Freemasonry, parliamentarianism and Jews as part of Vichy’s drive against them, and exposes the Jewish-Masonic plot.

Again, here is more information on Hitler and Zionism; if the evidence above, such as arresting, executing and calling for the dissolution of all B’nai B’rith lodges is not enough.

Hitler did work with the Zionists to transfer Jews to Palestine via the “Transfer Agreement” (Haavara). Israel didn’t exist until 1948. Hitler’s goal was to peacefully rid of Zionist and Communist Jews. No other country in the world would accept them, including the U.S. & U.K. This agreement also created trade between Germany and Jews in Palestine, during a time when Germany was boycotted by International finance, led by New York Zionists. Hitler was a pragmatist on some levels; this agreement was strategic for National Socialist Germany. However, again, we know that this trade ended when Hitler funded and armed the Arab resistance in Palestine and actively fought with them under Operation Atlas against the Zionists.

The entire transfer of German Jews into Palestine was unfortunately prevented by World War 2, leaving many Jews in temporary “transit camps”. The legendary “Nazi-Zionist collaboration” was a tiny blip of no geopolitical consequence. Only 10% of German Jews were successfully transferred. In “Hitler’s Second Book” he held the belief that the “essence of the Jewish people lacks the productive forces to build & sustain a territorial state… It needs the labor & creative activities of other nations to support its own existence.” This is a true statement! If Israel was not given the financial, military and technical support from the United States & Russia, it would have certainly collapsed a long time ago.

Hitler’s mentor, Dietrich Eckart, held a similar belief. “Without order & law no conception of state can be actualized, since they are the indispensable foundation for it.  For this very reason, the Jew, the mortal enemy of order & law, can never create a viable state in Palestine. The result would again be chaos.” * Hitler was Jewish; his grandfather was related to the Rothschilds.

Hitler was not Jewish!  The rumor that Adolf Hitler was the grandson of a Rothschild seems to have been hatched in the mind of a crypto-Jewish propagandist, Walter Langer, working in the United States’ first unified intelligence agency, the Office of Strategic Services (OSS).  There is not proof to substantiate this rumor. The principal blood relatives of Adolf Hitler are known, and accurate genealogic charts of his family lineage are publically available.

Werner Maser, a German historian & author conducted an exceedingly thorough job of tracing Adolf Hitler’s family background & lineage in his book, “Hitler: Legend, Myth and Reality”, published in German in 1971, in English in 1973.  He concludes that Hitler’s paternal grandfather was Johann Nepomuk Huttler (Hitler), a German farmer living in Spital, in the Waldviertel region in the Austro-Hungarian Empire.

This book and the information it contains has been available for 40 years, yet conspiracy theorists who want to believe Hitler was a Rothschild or simply a part-Jew ignore it.  Maser’s investigation included personal trips to look through church & baptismal records, interviewing relatives, heirs, school-fellows and childhood friends.  In the attic of one of Hitler’s cousins, he discovered material which biographers had been seeking for half a century, including large numbers of letter and notes in Hitler’s own hand.

It is undisputed that Adolf Hitler was born to Alois Hitler & Klara Pölzl.  Alois, however, was born Schicklgruber because his mother, Maria Anna Schicklgruber was unmarried, not an unusual occurrence in Austrian villages at that time.

Maria Anna Schicklgruber was not a “poor housemaid” who worked for wealthy Jewish families.  At the age of 26, she inherited 74.25 gulden at the death of her mother in 1821. She kept this sum in the Orphans’ Fund until 1838, earning 5% interest.  By then, it had increased to 165 gulden, over double the original amount. Her son, Alois, was not born until June 1837 when she was 42 yrs. old.

Alois did not, on his own initiative, seek legal legitimacy.  His birth status did not hamper his career, in which he rose to what was considered the very respectable position of a Customs official; nor did it appear to trouble him personally.  It wasn’t until sometime between 1874 and 1876 that he changed his name to Hitler, spelling it just slightly differently than Huttler.

Rothschild & Frankenberger Jew paternity has been ruled out on the grounds of there being no evidence that Maria Anna Schicklgruber ever worked for a Jewish family in Graz or Vienna.

From the end of the 15th Century until a decade after Maria Anna died, no Jews lived in Graz. They had been expelled by Emperor Maximilian I in 1496 from the province of Styria, which included Graz.  In 1781, under Joseph II, they were allowed to re-enter, but only for a few weeks at a time, during Lent and at the Feast of St. Giles to the annual Fairs, after paying a fixed sum. Two years later, these rights were again curtailed, and it remained enforced until 1860 that no Jews whatsoever could even enter the province.

Maria Anna did not visit or live in Vienna, and there is no record of who these supposed Rothschilds were, their address or other necessary information.

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  • Hitler was a Freemason working for the Illuminati.

False! An argument commonly made in the “Conspiracy Theory” grifter movement is that Hitler was an occultist and a member of the Thule Society. In reality, Hitler was never a member of the Thule Society. The Thule Society was responsible, however, for sponsoring the German Workers Party (DAP), which Adolf Hitler would later reorganize as the National Socialist German Workers Party (NSDAP). That’s it! Hans Frank, Rudolf Hess and Alfred Rosenberg had been Thule members, but other leading National Socialists had only been invited to speak at Thule meetings; outside of that they had no connections with it.

However, did Thule have Freemasonic connections? :

Adam Alfred Rudolf Glauer (Rudolf Freiherr von Sebottendorff) was the founder of Thule. He was introduced to occultism and esoteric concerns when he was living in Bursa, Turkey. His wealthy host, Hussein Pasha, was a Sufi and interested in such matters; it was around this time that Glauer saw the Mevlevi Order and visited the Great Pyramid of Giza in July 1900.[5] At Bursa, Glauer became acquainted with the Termudi family, who were Jews from Thessaloniki.[5] The Termudi family were involved in banking and the silk trade.[5] They were also Freemasons, belonging to a lodge affiliated to the Rite of Memphis-Misraim.[5] This network of lodges was closely connected to the Committee of Union and Progress (which later joined the Young Turks).[1] The patriarch of the Termudi family initiated Glauer into the lodge and when Termudi died, he bequeathed his library of occult, Kabbalistic, Rosicrucian and Sufi texts to Glauer.[5][6]

So, indeed, there appears to be a distant indirect connection between a sect in Freemasonry belonging to a lodge affiliated to the Rite of Memphis-Misraim. However, because Hitler was never a member of Thule; what did Hitler think of Glauer and his beliefs?

We do know that Hitler wrote in Mein Kampf:

Anyhow, nobody ever seems able to make out what exactly these ideas are. It is typical of such persons that they rant about ancient Teutonic heroes of the dim and distant ages, stone axes, battle-spears and shields, whereas in reality they themselves are the woefullest poltroons imaginable. For they are the very same people who brandish Teutonic tin swords that have been fashioned carefully according to ancient models and wear padded bear-skins, with the horns of oxen mounted over their bearded faces, proclaim that all contemporary conflicts must be decided by the weapons of the mind alone, and skedaddle at the very sight of a communist cudgel. Posterity will have little occasion to write a new epic on these heroic gladiators.

I have seen too much of that kind of person not to feel a profound contempt for their miserable play-acting. To the masses of the nation they are just an object of ridicule; but the Jew finds it to his own interest to treat these völkisch comedians with respect and to prefer them to real men who are fighting to establish a German State. Yet such people are extremely proud of themselves. Notwithstanding their complete fecklessness, which is an established fact, they pretend to know everything better than other people; so much so, that they make themselves a veritable nuisance to all sincere and honest patriots, to whom not only the heroism of the past is worthy of honour, but who also feel bound to leave examples of their own work for the inspiration of the coming generation.

Among these people there are some whose conduct can be explained by their innate stupidity and incompetence; but there are others who have a definite ulterior purpose in view. Often it is difficult to distinguish between the two classes.

And we also know:

Sebottendorff was arrested after Hitler’s appointment as chancellor for publicizing the Society’s influence on Nazism.

Not because Sebottendorff had indirect connections with a Jewish banker family. This was already known in the 30’s anyway.

His memoirs were suppressed. Hitler mocked the German Workers’ Party and allied forerunners, disparaging their activities as “club life of the worst manner and sort,” dismissing them as barely worthy of comment. “I shall not even speak of the unworldliness of those folkish Saint Johns of the twentieth century or their ignorance of the popular soul.”’

All of this said, the Thule Society was not Masonic, however, it’s founder, arrested by Hitler, had indirect ties to a Jewish family who were freemasons. It was originally a Germanic re-hashing of the Theosophical Society until it began developing a nationalist, anti-Semitic, anti-Communist character under the Alfred Rosenberg, who would later become a prominent National Socialist ideologue.

After 1933, esoteric organizations were suppressed in National Socialist Germany, due to possible Jewish & foreign influences, including The Thule Society and other volkisch occultists, which may have had Masonic (Jewish) influences.

The “Enabling Act” was passed by Germany’s parliament, the Reichstag, on March 23rd, 1933.  Using the Act, on January 8th, 1934, the German Ministry of the Interior ordered the disbandment of Freemasonry, and confiscation of the property of all Lodges, including all libraries & Masonic artifacts; stating that those who had been members of Lodges when Hitler came to power, in January 1933, were prohibited from holding office in the National Socialist party or its paramilitary arms, and were ineligible for appointment in public service. 

On August 8, 1935, as Fuhrer & Chancellor, Hitler signed a decree demanding the immediate arrest & imprisonment of all persons who had not resigned from Masonic societies. 

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  • Companies like Ford, Woolworth, Kodak, Alcoa and IBM, and Wall Street investors did business with Hitler’s “Nazi” Germany… Jewish-American bankers & entrepreneurs were allowed to make millions in Germany till 1938… The Bank of International Settlements in Switzerland propped up the National Socialist government as its proxy to launch World War 2… Germany was owned by the foreign banks & industry.

Many capitalist American firms & individuals did business with Germany after it became a united Constitutional Monarchy (1871-1918), and continued to do business with Germany when it became a left-leaning socialist democracy (1919-1933), and continued to continue business relations with Germany after Hitler and his NSDAP were elected into power (1933-1941).  Why wouldn’t they?  This is globalization; a series of interlocking international directorsips, shareholders and business associations.

BIS was an intermediary for reparations payments after WWI. After the gold standard swap for treasury notes, the BIS had no medium currency to interact with the Reichsbank. So anyone claiming Hitler was an agent of BIS has no idea what they are talking about. Report from the Bank for International Settlements Below:

If a local cigar shop imports & re-sells Cuban cigars, does that make the owner a Castro “collaborator” or a Communist? Not at all!

Note: If I make a purchase through a bank, sign up for a loan to purchase a home, etc. That doesn’t make me a shill for the bank? Of course not!

It is was established fact that Germany under the Third Reich was moving away from globalization and turning towards autarky; economically independent & self-sufficient.  This was a process!

National Socialist Germany also needed the technical & engineering know-how of corporations, like Siemens, Ford, IBM, etc., in order to modernize his country as soon as possible in 1933.  As his country grew, the NSDAP government, applying National Socialist principles, assured that these capitalist corporations knew their place in Germany; the folk were the top priority for the NSDAP.

Prior to the start of the World War 2, America was suffering from an economic depression as well as many to the Western countries, outside of Germany. Many greedy capitalist wanted to deal with Germany at this time because the German economy was booming.  For Germany to continue to thrive, the NSDAP was not opposed to doing deals with Western capitalists.  National Socialist German did have a relatively “free-market” economy, with the exception that the government would step in to intervene, if necessary, in order to protect the interest of the collective German folk.

  • Was Hitler taking loans from the bankers?

It would make common sense that a leader of a country would opt to utilize the “system”, if needed, in order to later destroy it, and at the same… it would make common sense that the “system” would opt to utilize an opposing country’s leader, build him up, in order to later defeat him, though that would be risky. Hitler and the NSDAP government were pragmatic & strategic with all of their economic, political and war-time maneuvering.

He even suggested these alliances are sometimes only a strategical preparation for fighting each other as soon as they have amassed enough strength. It’s not difficult to extrapolate Hitler’s understanding of war alliances with economics. Any “unholy” contacts & alliances that Hitler may have made, his politics were totally irreconcilable with; therefore, it would be his end goal to ultimately destroy them.

No State has ever gone bankrupt for economic reasons, but only as the result of losing a war!” -Hitler

The Bank of International Settlements (BIS), located in Switzerland, created to administer the German reparation payments after World War 1, has been claimed to be the main banking institution & channel, via the Bank of England, to which money would flow in and out of Germany during the Third Reich.

Note: German businessmen who did provide funds to the NSDAP were of nationalistic sentiments in a German tradition that was alien to that of the self-interest of the English liberal free-trade school.

Note: Foreign businessmen who might reasonably have been expected to fund the NSDAP on ideological grounds, primarily Henry Ford, did not do so, contrary to allegations.

  • Hitler suppressed Democracy… He was a dictator.

It is claimed that Hitler “subverted” democracy.  This is an allegation which is most certainly true, except for the fact that there was never any pretense over this matter.  The NSDAP openly abhorred democracy and aimed to replace it with the “leadership principle”, which the NSDAP believed was in line with the natural order of the world.  Resultantly, as soon as the NSDAP came to power, they implemented a program which resulted in the imposition of a one-party state. Hitler was an authoritarian leader, not a dictator; he had a large majority of the people for support.

In most present-day “Democratic” European countries, suppression of free speech and freedom of the press are happening.  Laws exist in some of these countries, which make it a criminal offense to discuss racially-related topics.  If you question or mock the Holocaust (Holocaust), in several of these countries, like Germany or Great Britain, you will spend time in jail, or even prison.

  • Hitler was a British agent; brainwashed & trained in England (1912-1913) by the Tavistock Institute… a 1979 claim by his sister-in-law.

No proof! Hitler volunteered to be on the front lines of World War One against Britain, and was awarded medals for bravery. He barely escaped death several times, and was injured from chemical gas. No Rothschild agent would bother to do that. It would serve no purpose.

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Hitler’s approach to big business during his early rise, was, in reality, an attempt to neutralize them, and to not prevent its leaders, who he distrusted, from actively getting behind the NSDAP or to exploit its financial resources for his party.

German big business had little to do with the NSDAP early success.  In Republican Germany, the big business community was a loosely organized, politically ineffective interest group, that was held together primarily by its opposition to the growing menace of the modern welfare state.  Its political dealings were mainly with the so-called bourgeois parties of the center and right, the DVP (Deutsche Volkspartei), the DDP (Deutsche Demokratische Partei) and the DNVP (Deutschnationale Volkspartei).  However, the general disdain big business had for the republican form of government, which had jeopardized the privileged position it once held under the defunct Imperial order (monarchy), precluded any serious attempt to use the system to its advantage, a system where “votes, not money” were the determining factor in political success.

In this milieu, the NSDAP was only one of many political parties big business considered funding.  However, because of the NSDAP’s anti-capitalist economic policies, evident since the proclamation of the 25-point program of February 1920, the big business community was never able to reconcile itself to lending more than half-hearted support, and this was invariably of a tactical, rather than an ideological, nature.  This distrust of a party that seemed more often than not ready to side with the radical left on important social & economic issues, became so pervasive that not even the NSDAP’s strident anti-Marxism, and its desire to inculcate support for national values, could overcome it.

It may be true that contributions of various sorts came from big businessmen and the coal industry, like Fritz Thyssen, the Berlin manufacturer, Ernst von Borsig, and the retired coal executive, Emil Kirdorf, but despite statements to the contrary, they were never a critical source of funding.

Most of the NSDAP funds were derived from the party itself; membership dues, insurance premiums, interest-free loans, and the gate receipts from the many mass rallies the party held.

After the parliamentary breakthrough in September 1930, sales from “Mein Kampf” skyrocketed, providing Hitler himself with a steady source of income. And during the depression the volunteer labor given by party activists helped ease the effects of the increasingly austere economic conditions.

The NSDAP was a prototypical “grass-roots” political organization able to expand and prosper during a period when most of the bourgeois parties suffered a serious loss of support.  Only the Communist Party could compare in this regard, and it never attracted the mass following the NSDAP did.

Even Hjalmar Schacht, admitted at Nuremberg that Hitler’s rise to power was grassroots.  Schacht didn’t invoke Jewish money secretly bringing Hitler to power.  He talked about the injustices of the Versailles Treaty infuriating most Germans of that time, the very bad economic situation of the German citizens & German state, getting even worse after the 1929 economic crash, the very efficient National Socialist propaganda, the incapability of all preceding governments to settle the daily problems of average Germans and the too harsh policy of the foreign countries toward Germany at that time.  All that brought many votes to the National Socialist party and turned Hitler’s party into an inevitable political force in Germany at the time.

The NSDAP did not receive as much industrial or banker funding, before 1933, as the Strasser brothers, the Social Democrats (SPD) or even Hugenberg’s Nationalist Party.  The reason why Hitler and the NSDAP never received the same level of financial or moral support early on was three-fold: (a) the industrialists and many Junkers did not trust Hitler given his socialist stance on many issues; (b) most industrialists and Junkers were not financially threatened enough to back a revolutionary party like Hitler’s, since they were still satisfied with the status quo; and (c) they were leery of Hitler’s anti-Jewish stance.

Note: To recap; the alleged 1931 “miracle financing” was no miracle at all; it came from German coal companies, not Sidney Warburg, and most of the NSDAP’s money came from the party itself; insurance premiums, dues, speaking fees, etc.  It was Bruning, not Hitler, who was backed by IG Farben.  Chancellor Schleicher, backed by Paul Silverberg and other industrial bigwigs’ money, conspired with Ernst Rohm on a plan to incorporate the SA into the German Army and thereby betray Hitler.

  • Jewish banking legends, Paul & Max Warburg supported Hitler’s NSDAP through a large chemical company called I.G. Farben, and its American subsidiary.  I.G. Farben helped finance the NSDAP, while Max served on its board, and Paul served on the board of its American subsidiary… Proof of German-Jewish complicity. The Warburgs were neither CEO’s, nor Presidents, at I.G. Farben; but only single board members out of many others.  The origination of their terms on various corporate boards preceded Hitler’s rise.  Paul Warburg actually died one year before Hitler was even elected.  We should also point out that many German firms that did not have a Warburg sitting on their board also supported Hitler. In short, I.G. Farben backed Hitler in spite of the Warburgs, not because of them.

Max Warburgs family bank "M. M. Warburg & Co." was nationalized by Hitler, the Warburgs would never had wanted this, and Max Warburg himself had to flee to the United States. Why did that happen? Warburg eventually lead a campaign against Hitler. Murdering him or not does not negate the fact that he fled Germany because National Socialists believed that speculators of any kind were to be arrested because they stole the wealth from the community.

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  • Hitler was complicit in aiding the Jews by releasing Baron Louis Rothschild in 1939.

Keep in mind that Hitler shut down the German, French and Austrian branches of the House of Rothschild and confiscated their money.  In addition, he allowed the release of the major motion picture, “Die Rothschilds Aktien Auf Waterloo”, which exposed the family’s treachery & banking schemes in Europe.

In regards to Baron Rothschild, the National Socialist Germans received a payment of $21,000,000 for releasing him.  This amount believed to have been the largest ransom payment in history for any individual.

  • Hitler’s early rise was financed (set up) by London & NYC-based Big Bankers, like Schroder Bank, spymasters & deep state operatives, like the Allen Dulles Brothers (OSS), as well as Big Business in Germany.  Hitler was obviously controlled opposition.

There are no receipts to attest to that.  Receipts do show that Hitler’s money came from German businessmen fearful of Communist takeover, Russian emigres, Royalists who fled the Bolsheviks, regular Party members, disgruntled veterans and NSDAP supporters.  Even if a few bucks from Jewish sources did find its way into NSDAP coffers, you can be sure it was minimal and surely intended as a way to hedge bets, as International Jewry always does, funding both sides of any conflict.  As it stands, some Jewish funding might have been given to Hitler’s opposition (Strasser) within the NSDAP party.

If was true, which evidence so far proves it’s not, that Hitler received personal finances from the Zionists, history has shown that he certainly used those funds to advance National Socialist political movement, despite all attempts to squash it by Zionists.

A historian, Henry Ashby Turner, he wrote a book in 1985, called “German Big Business and the Rise of Hitler.  In his book he shows how little big business had to do with the rise of the NSDAP, and Turner proves, with receipts, that the largest portion of the National Socialist party fundraising was memberships, and the sales of “Mein Kampf” provided Hitler a steady source of income.

Note: Sales of “Mein Kampf” would later make Hitler a millionaire.

Note: Henry Ford did not provide funding to the NSDAP, contrary to popular myth.

Franz von Papen, the German statesman & diplomat who played a leading role in helping Hitler to become German chancellor in 1933, was very concerned that the Communists would take over Germany and ruin big business.

The most cited source for the story that Jewish bankers paved the way for Hitler is “Hitler’s Secret Backers”, supposedly written by a Jewish banker, pen-named “Sidney Warburg”.

There was no Sidney Warburg!  But those who actually read the spurious (fake) book will find that the unknown author says himself, in contrast to what people think, that the Jewish bankers didn’t finance Hitler.  Instead, the book claims some naughty non-Jewish bankers did. But even that isn’t true.

Another accurate assessment, by James Pool in “Who Financed Hitler”, absolutely refutes the legend that big banking or industrial interests played a substantial role funding Hitler.  Pool research indicates, again, that most of the National Socialist party’s money came from small contributions and sales of literature.

No Rothschilds backed Hitler.  That’s a myth!  One banker, a practicing Christian of one-quarter Jewish descent, was said by one source, passing on a rumor, to have donated money to Hitler.  And that’s it. The one Jewish banker known to have given money to any National Socialist gave it to elements in the NSDAP, the Strasser brothers, who were trying to stop Hitler.

Many think that Antony Sutton “proved” in “Wall Street and the Rise of Hitler” that Rockefeller-controlled Standard Oil funded Hitler.  However, in his book, Sutton says flatly, “Standard Oil apparently did not finance Hitler’s accession to power.”

Note: The Germans bought the patent & license from Standard Oil to manufacture tetra 4 fuel, they were not receiving shipments from Rockefeller in New Jersey. Some cite Sutton’s book as evidence the Bush family, with the Harriman banking interests, funded Hitler.  In fact, Sutton says only that the Harrimans, like many American financial groups, had connections to corporate interests in Germany. And he concludes that this “does not suggest that the Harrimans directly financed Hitler.” He never mentions the Bush family at all.

Sutton could not substantiate the Jewish “conspiracy theory” and claim that Hitler’s rise was personally funded by International Jewry.

German “big business” were alleged to have played a key role in the establishment of the Third Reich.  This allegation rests on the authenticity of the memoirs of certain key individuals who either participated in, or witnessed, Hitler’s rise to power from close proximity.  Perhaps the two most important were Ruhr industrialist, Fritz Thyssen, and Hitler’s press secretary, Otto Dietrich.

Thyssen, whose contempt for the Weimar Republic led him to support Hitler’s NSDAP as early as the fall of 1923, was long considered to be one of its most important sources of funds.  His memoirs, which were ghostwritten, have been used by historians to substantiate the close connection between big business and the National Socialist movement from its earliest days.  Questions arise, however, concerning the memoirs’ authenticity. Otto Dietrich’s 1934 memoirs of the “Kampfzeit” are likewise, more propagandistic than substantial.

I can therefore say neither that foreign policy nor economic policy is of primary significance. Of course, a people needs the business world in order to live. But business is but one of the functions of this body-politic whereby its existence is assured. But primarily the essential thing is the starting-point and that is the people itself.” -Hitler

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But you know, we could believe that:

Nuremberg: AKCHUALLY they were Zionist actors, paid handsomely in exchange for letting their testicles be crushed and bones broken before being hung and vilified forever for being the losers, where as the Soviets were propped up and were funded by western capitalists.

The intelligence from General Ludendorff is simply the regime, babe. This OP is the disinformation agent.

Cool fallacies, did not debunk any of my original post.

The detailed information comes from Bronder, a book never properly translated into English, but the electronic translation is here:

Unreadable and he is wrong about B'nai B'rith – totally wrong – which puts his whole book into question.

So, now that I don’t have to debunk anything because you never debunked anything I posted – you merely created a strawman out of an opinion – let’s look a little deeper:

Did Hitler support Zionists:

"supported the Zionists" While arresting Zionist Rothschild family members. Care to comment why World Zionist Leader, Chaim Weizmann was on an arrest list? Was it because Hitler was working for him? 🤣 Shall I expect no answer from you?

^ ^ ^ Notice that most of those ordered to be arrested are wealthy Jews, specifically lawyers, Zionists, bankers, etc.

The Black Book or "Sonderfahndungsliste G.B." was a list of individuals in Britain that were to be arrested after the planned German invasion. Among those to be arrested: - Chaim Weizmann, Zionist leader and first Israeli president. B'nai B'rith, Israels network, was ended.

^ ^ ^ Oh look at that, Bronder is debunked. B’nai B’rith raided by the Gestapo, its leaders arrested and a decree ordered for the lodges “dissolution.” ALL B’NAI B’RITH PROPERTY IN GERMANY WAS TO BE SEQUESTERED. There was no hope for B’nai B’rith property to be restored.

Oh look:

Zionist meeting rejects Hitlers policies.

Oh look:

SS Reichsführer Heinrich Himmler had a particular hatred for the Masonic-Zionist lodge of B'nai B'rith. Before being dissolved, and its members arrested en masse, Himmler placed all B'nai B'rith lodges under intense surveillance by the Gestapo.

Oh look:

Hitler the "Zionist agent" carrying out air strikes against Zionist-Britain's infrastructure in Palestine. Would Jim Condit and CJB like to comment on this?

You can claim all you want that Hitler did a poor job of fighting Jews, despite the fact 125,000 + Jews fought for the Reich, so it was rather the Zionists, Bolshevik and wealthy speculator Jews that he waged a war on, ie., International finance. Elizabeth de Rothschild died in Ravensbruck camp. Was that part of the "ruse" as well? He was NOT bankrolled into power, see below:

Jewish immigration to Palestine was happening long BEFORE Hitler came (4 Aliyahs). And again, Hitler arrested Zionist leaders.

^ ^ ^ Austrian Zionist Federation and Palestine immigration office smashed up and its members arrested by the SA.

^ ^ ^ Arresting Zionist Jewish leaders.

If Hitler was really just a Rothschild-Jewish agent, there would be no need lie about him, to increasingly vilify his name, throw Holocaust revisionists in prison, spend billions on Hollywood “Nazi” movies, “Nazi” documentaries and books on the “Nazis”. There would also be no need to shut down small YouTube accounts that either:

a.) praise his work. Or;

b.) show the truth about Hitler objectively.

Here is more information by Noble from here:

Quoted until further notice:

Many within the German aristocracy, along with people who were internally opposed to Hitler, like Otto Strasser, and former German officers who were tortured and families threatened, were willing to tell “lies” about Hitler and the NSDAP. This unreliable testimony is sold as “proof” today.

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These supremacist Jews, say that they represent Jewry but we know that they do not represent the entirety of Jewry. But they would like to think they do, and have much power to get the majority of Jews to support their cause through Jewish agency, etc.

The protocols were seen by Hitler himself. This was probably why he treated the camp inmates fair throughout most of the war (see SilverThoughts documentary on all the death camps up to the end of war; with thousands of photos) instead of brutalizing them like the Zionists wanted. George Rothschild however (Zionist elite), was executed. Her documentary shows that the 100,000+ who died, probably close to 600,000, mostly died from typhus and the allied food blockade at the end of the war where inmates received little food for around 5-6 months due to the destruction of Germany. But I’m getting off topic here.

Secular irreligious Jews who hate religious Jews and Chabad would rather not believe the protocols to be a “real forgery” but the Nazis did and for that reason believed that there existed a Judeo-Masonic international alliance that wished to destroy Germany, which first emerged via the Treaty and economic collapse of Germany, which Schacht admits was largely caused by foreign speculators. It was only when Schacht was fired and THROWN in Dachu concentration camp, accused of working for the British, did International Finance come together to finally destroy Germany. I wonder why then that the Nazis had public propaganda called 'the three trifecta' which showed Jesuits/Vatican, Freemasons, and Jews behind closed doors speculating and scheming against Germany.

One can tie Hjalmar Schact into the picture all they want... despite the fact that Schacht's Freemasonic lodge "Zu Freundschaft" was shut down in 1935. By 1939 Schact was removed from the Reichsbank for refusing Hitlers directives. He was later arrested and sent to Dachau.

Zionists nevertheless wanted a state BUT did not care that Diaspora Jews existed outside of the state as long as they served the interests of the settler project and Jewish control in Palestine which goes hand-in-hand with Jewish prophecy in the Zohar and Lurianic Cabala.

The inner Jewish circle and their servants in the Grand Orient of France; [2] The Vatican and the General of the Jesuits and [3] Atheistic Bolshevism.

Grand Orient has historically been against Scottish rite, the Jewish rite (accept when it came to signing the anti-JFK pact where the Grand Orient and Scottish rite North and South divisions in the US agreed to stop JFK at all costs; many Zionists were part of this pact). Though Jews can be members of both. The Grand Orient is futurist and sometimes atheistic, whereas the Grand Orient is not. To note, I believe Trump was a member of the Scottish Rite, though he doesn't say, however, in his book, he claims he is a Cabalist and the Cabala plays important roles in masonry. Also, Trump has given many masonic hand-grips to other masons over the years.

Thirdly, certain Catholics and Protestants supported the Nazis, though, the voting demographics throughout Germany show that Catholics and Protestant dominated areas were heavily AGAINST the Nazis. Nevertheless, a large portions of the German people did vote for the Nazis. There is no conspiracy involved here. But the Nazis eventually denounced Jesuitism and openly propagandized against them. Because of this, many Jesuits were arrested and thrown in concentration camps.

There are not THREE supernational forces. There are hundreds with their own agendas.

...then the idea Hitler operated outside the sway of those three "supernational forces" becomes patently absurd.

You are using an opinion as infallible truth to explain what isn't true, that there are only three supernational forces, to create a strawman out of them.

Ludendorff casually speaks of the supernational forces stacking the Reichstag with National Socialists to carry on another war (written 1931).

And if that is the case, infiltration, as it all too often happens here in the US or anywhere for that matter, it explains why many Nazis were executed by Hitler and why many Nazis planned to Assassinate Hitler such as the CIA asset anti-Hitlerite, Gehlen and Cannaris, which debunks the OSS as Nazis meme. Plus, the CIA's first incarnation was the OSS (Office of Strategic Services) who's primary focus was to direct psychological warfare against Germany during WW II and after through indoctrination programs and the burning of 100,000's of books, far more than the Nazis ever did.

Habe demanded a minimum of at least four runs. “The Germans,” he said, “ are psychologically difficult cases—they are to be compared with a man who is intelligent but hard of hearing. Only a constant hammering of certain ideas will penetrate into the German mind.”

  ((Source: Colonel William Paley, USFET/ICD, to Lieutenant Colonel Murphy, 23 August 1945,

RG 260, OMGUS 5/266-1/17, BArch; Memorandum, Lt. Colonel C. A. Thompson, Office of the Chief, Plans and Directives, PWD/SHAEF, 17 July 1945, quoted in Hurwitz, Stunde Null, 101; Hans Habe to Commanding General, ICD, USFET, 4 September 1945, RG 260, OMGUS 5/266-1/17, BArch.))

According to Directive No. 4 of the military government, only people who had openly opposed the Hitler regime were to be employed in the post-war press. Journalistic abilities did not constitute a qualification.

This included Nazis, and we know the OSS was openly against the Nazis, despite what disinformationists say. They had an entire propaganda PsyWar program aimed against Germany and after the war they integrated some Nazis into the US scientific community with the purpose of stealing scientific secrets as other great powers did, or have those captured Nazis face the rope at Nuremberg.

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As for the Protocols forgery, yes, parts were a forgery from other books but Chabad rabbis have openly stated that it was written by a Chabad rabbi named Ginzbeg.

These are the person currently who control our government:

We Jews, we the destroyers, will remain the destroyers forever. Nothing that you (Gentiles) will do, will meet our needs & demands. We will forever destroy because we need a world of our own, a God-world, which is not in your nature to build.” -Maurice Samuel (Jewish author of “You Gentiles”)

We Jews have spoiled the blood of all the races of Europe. Taken as a whole, everything is Jew-dified. Our ideas animate everything. Our spirit reigns over the world. We are the Lords.” -Dr. Kurt Munzer (Jewish author of “The Way to Zion”)

Since the Jews are the highest and most cultured people on earth, the Jews have a right to subordinate to themselves the rest of mankind, and to be the masters over the whole Earth.” -Rabbi Harry Waton

Goyim (Gentiles) were born only to serve us.” -Israeli Sephardic leader Rabbi Ovadia Yosef

“If a Jew be called upon to explain any part of the rabbinic books, he must to give only a false explanation. Who ever will violate this order shall be put to death.” -Libbre David 37

“To communicate anything with a Goy (Gentile) about our religious relations would be equal to the killing of all Jews, for if the Goyim knew what we teach about them, they would kill us openly.”  -Libbre David 37

“A Jew may violate but not marry a non-Jewish girl.” -Gad. Shas. 2:2

“A heathen (Gentile) who pries into the Torah is condemned to death, for it is written, it is our inheritance, not theirs.” -Sanhedrin 59a

“Balaam (Jesus) is raised from the dead and being punished in boiling hot semen. Those who mock the words of the Jewish sages and sin against Israel are boiled in hot excrement.” -57a Gittin

“Only Jews are human.  Gentiles are animals.” -Baba Mezia 114a-114b

“Jehovah created the non-Jew in human form so that the Jew would not have to be served by beasts. The non-Jew is consequently an animal in human form, and condemned to serve the Jew day and night.” -Nidrasch Talpioth, p. 225-L

“If a Jew is tempted to do evil he should go to a city where he is not known and do the evil there.” -Moed Kattan 17a

“If a heathen Gentile hits a Jew, the Gentile must be killed. Hit-ting a Jew is hitting God.” -Sanhedrin 58b

“Even the best of the Gentiles should be killed.” -Sanhedrin 59a

“For murder, whether of a Cuthean (Gentile) by a Cuthean, or of an Israelite by a Cuthean, punishment is incurred; but of a Cuthean by an Israelite, there is no death penalty.” -Sanhedrin 57a

“If a Jew finds an object lost by a heathen (Gentile) it does not have to be returned.” -Baba Mezia 24a

“What a Jew obtains by theft from a Cuthean (Gentile) he may keep.” -Sanhedrin 57a

“Jews may use lies (deceit) to circumvent a Gentile.” -Baba Kamma 113a

“All Gentile children are animals.” -Yebamoth 98a

“Gentiles prefer sex with cows.” -Abodah Zarah 22a-22b

“If an ox of an Israelite gores an ox of a Canaanite there is no liability; but if an ox of a Canaanite (Gentile) gores an ox of an Israelite, the payment is to be in full.“ -Baba Kamma 37b

“Murdering Goyim is like killing a wild animal.” -Sanhedrin 59a

“Jesus fornicated with his jackass.” -Sanhedrin 105ab

“Do not save Goyim (Gentile) in danger of death.” -Hilkkoth Akum Z1

“If it be proven that someone has given the money of Israelites to the Goyim, a way must be found after prudent consideration to wipe him off the face of this earth.” -Choschen Ham 388, 15

“Christians and others who reject the Talmud will go to hell and be punished there for all generations.” -Rosh Hashanah 17a

“A Jew is permitted to rape, cheat and perjure himself (lie); but he must take care that he is not found out, so that Israel may not suffer.” -Schulchan Aruch, Jore Dia

“The Jewish nation is the only nation selected by God, while all the remaining ones are contemptible and hateful.” -Schulchan Aruch, Choszen Hamiszpat, 348

“When the Messiah comes every Jew will have 2800 slaves.” -Simeon Haddarsen, fol. 56-D

“When a Jew has a Gentile in his clutches, another Jew may go to the same Gentile, lend him money and in turn deceive him, so that the Gentile shall be ruined. For the property of a Gentile, according to our law, belongs to no one, and the first Jew that passes has full right to seize it.” -Schulchan Aruch, Choszen Hamiszpat 156

“If a goy (Gentile) killed a goy or a Jew he is responsible, but if a Jew killed a goy he is not responsible.” -Tosefta, Aboda Zara, VIII, 5

“The estates of the Goys (Gentiles) are like wilderness, who first settles in them has a right to them.” -Choschen Hamm 388, 15

“Everything a Jew needs for his Temple rituals no goy (Gentile) is permitted to manufacture, but only a Jew, because this must be manufactured by human beings and the Jew is not permitted to consider the goyim as human beings.” -Midrasch Talpioth, p. 225-L

“Everyone who sheds the blood of the impious (Genitles) is as acceptable to God as he who offers a sacrifice to God.” -Yalkut 245c

“Kill the Goyim by any means possible.” -Choshen Ha’mishpat 425:50

“We beg Thee, O Lord, indict Thy wrath on the nations not believing in Thee, and not calling on Thy name. Let down Thy wrath on them and inflict them with Thy wrath. Drive them away in Thy wrath and crush them into pieces. Take away, O Lord, all bone from them. In a moment indict all disbelievers. Destroy in a moment all foes of Thy nation. Draw out with the root, disperse and ruin unworthy nations. Destroy them! Destroy them immediately, in this very moment!” -Christianus in Talmudae Judeorum (Pranajtis)

“The Feast of Tabernacles is the period when Israel triumphs over the other people of the world. That is why during this feast we seize the loulab and carry it as a trophy to show that we have conquered all other peoples.” -Zohar, Toldoth Noah 63b

“Gentiles are outside the protection of the law and God has exposed their money to Israel.” -Baba Kamma 37b

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First of all, are you /u/poopdawg15 Southern Israelite (Drake Shelton)? I know /u/useless_aether and /u/HibikiBlack often linked his rants and I nevertheless debunked them. The guy is a Freemason who pushes all the ridiculous theories of Phelps. I didn’t even have to prove he was a Freemason to know that he was.

Proof he is a member of a Masonic lodge:

Also, like Phelps, this Zionist Freemason is a flat earther.

This liar promotes all the Zionist disinfo, such as that that Jesuits control the US, that nuclear bombs do not exist, that JFK faked his death and they killed a look-a-like instead. This is obvious disinformation. The truth? Judeo-Freemasonry killed JFK and this is proven in Michele Metta’s book.

Ludendorff blamed Freemasons for bringing America into the World War I, helped by the Jesuits, B'nai B'rith and the Grand Lodge of New York! This, he stated, was done to destroy Austria Hungary, a Catholic world power. Had it not been for Freemasonry, Germany would have won the war

Sure, stage play in finance and profit for international arms dealers, this has been a custom of most conflicts throughout history.

You can tell OP is a disinfo guy, because he knows to avoid Bronder, C.H. Douglas, Erich Ludendorff, Douglas Reed and Hennecke Kardel as sources.

You can tell Poopdawg is spewing fallacies when his first sentence is a fallacy. And he debunks absolutely nothing and sources absolutely nothing.

But we can all agree on this: If it was Hitler's plan to stop the Jews, he did a terrible job.

Strawman and a very stupid one at that. This implies that because someone did not win or reach what they strove to achieve, whatever that may have been, then they must have been a controlled asset for the winner's side. This is a reductio ad absurdum if I've ever seen one. You are open to read Hitler's aunt's letter to the German people on where she stood and what she believed Hitler wished to achieve.

Bronder's book is full of disinformation, he literally writes that B'nai B'rith was left open throughout the war. This is a lie, many leaders were arrested and executed and thrown in concentration camps, there are hundreds of documents and newspaper clippings illustrating this, before and after Schacht was fired by Hitler in which case the whole of International Finance was against him.

The National Socialists, as Feder contended, dropped the international gold standard as a medium of exchange and used MEFO/treasury notes which significantly decreased speculation, a practice which Feder and Hitler openly preached against, as they believed UNEARNED INCOME, meaning income through speculation and usury, such as that on Wall-street, stole the wealth of the community. This everyone can agree with.

If you take Ludendorff's comments as true, which I do, that the Systems of Force in the world were: [1] The inner Jewish circle and their servants in the Grand Orient of France; [2] The Vatican and the General of the Jesuits and [3] Atheistic Bolshevism.

Yes, lets take opinions as the sole truth when actions paint a very different picture. Secondly, sure, the wealthy Zionists like Weizman and to a lesser extent the Ziofascist Jabotinsky, wanted a Jewish state. Certain Zionist Jews, many tied to Masonic organizations such as B'nai B'rith (crypto-Jews from New England funded and lead some of the first Masonic lodges) and Mormonism of which Joseph Smith has Jewish ancestry and was a former Mason, wanted a state for Jews since the 1840's and many Jews were already emigrating to Palestine in mass prior to Hitler being born. Your also open to read Mein Kampf, which was not written by a Jesuit priest as many disinformationists claim; they get this lie from Edmond Paris’s book, of which this claim is not even sourced and whose book first appeared in one of the largest Masonic buildings in the world, which housed the Grand Orient of France. So we have a book claiming that Jesuits wrote Mein Kampf, they didn’t, which first was published in the Grand Orient of Paris and which is often re-published by Jack Chick publications who is an staunch Zionist. So, it is clear that Masonry was openly against National Socialism and National Socialism openly against Masonry and marrano Jesuitism (Memorialists).

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I have tried to verify the part about Bronder and B'nai Brith. My ctrl + f search of the document returns only a single reference to B'nai Brith during a section about the 1920s. Here's that.

Forgive me if I'm suspicious this is a bot, because of the syntax and the Herculean, impossible and impassioned output--like 100 man hours effort.

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Sorry, I thought it was referenced in Bronder's book, rather, it was a reference in the LaRouche camp, in a book by Anton Chaitkin, which I read a few years ago. If I could read German well, I'd read Bonder but I only know a little German and the English version is absolutely illegible. Though I have tried to skim through it.

The B’nai B’rith was the one Jewish organization that Hitler deliberately (left open ) and functioning under Nazi rule from 1933 on. In 1939, Britain made a dramatic change in its policy toward Hitler-after teaching Hitler his race theories, after forcefully backing his takeover of Germany, after financing and equipping his armies, Britain now changed publicly to opposing Hitler. Only at that point, in 1939, about a year after Hitler finally closed B’nai B’rith’s Nazi-authorized German operations.

The Gestapo was already sequestering and closing down and arrestig B'nai B'rith lodges and leader in mid 1934. That B'nai B'rith taught Hitler his race theories is ridiculous and they never armed his takeover of Germany.

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Well, It's not so much that you debunk the claims but rather, more like you religiously hold to your own biases. I mean seriously, under normal circunstances I've been able to completely destroy most of your arguments and you keep coming back with the Jewish satanic bible walls of text...

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I'm no Hitlerite, I just despise lies when truth will do. I also agree somewhat with the contention that the Church was largely subverted by various factions, including neo-platonic Jesuitism and that modern day Jews are the very opposite of biblical Jews or Nazarite Jews who followed Christ. God in the Old Testament continuously rebuked the Jews as did Moses, despite God picking Jews as the seed to which they were to follow God and then Messiah in truth.

They refused and were stubborn and so another nation was picked to spread the gospel.

Sure, I'm biased, everyone is, but you, yourself are just as biased. You did write, for instance, that JFK was a secret protestant whose goal was to subvert the Catholic church; when in fact he was a Catholic and was murdered by P2 lodge Freemasons who infiltrated the Church; Grand Orient Freemasons, Scottish Rite Freemasons (evidenced in the anti-JFK pact) and Ziofascists such as the Irgun and Israeli intelligence and their 5th column in the US aligned with the pro-interventionist CIA, which were at odds with Smith, JFK and Fulbright, the latter who openly exposed Jewish Zionist control in congress.

And, similarly, users claim here that Israel isn't Jewish. Howevet, it is directly referenced in their Limited Liability company as a Jewish majority state. Hence, Zionist Jews and non-Jews, including Jesuit Zionists and Orthodox Jewish Zionists of all types in the US are breaking the law when they hold public office.

You claim that I'm biased but this is coming from someone who uses Phelps, a known disinformation agent and this Southern Israelite researcher, who, despite me agreeing with some of what he says, he is, nevertheless, a Freemason. So, you have been, unintentionally or intentionally, covering for Freemasonry and sourcing freemasons.

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I don't think I've ever used Phelps as a direct source even once. Likewise, I also don't agree with a lot of what Drake says, but he is well sourced about his arguments to the point I can respect his points of view.

I never said that the Kennedys being secret protestants was factual, I actually said that it was just a rumour I heard. I don't get the butthurt behind this.

Also yeah, I don't think you are in anyway legit /u/Jesus. You admitted your hatred towards the flesh and of human subjectivity already. That's the basic principles behind everything the Jesuits do.

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You continuously use Freemasons as sources. Hatred of flesh is not renouncement of flesh and its desires. There's a difference.

No, Jesus told us to preach the gospel and turn the other cheek. So, no, not a Jesuit. Jesus was clear that salvation only comes through Him.

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Bible is the Word of God.

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How did he wage a war against Zionists when he was a Zionist himself by demanding jews to be extradicted to their "homeland" (Haavara agreement)?

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Modern Zionists want a Jewish ethnostate and push emigration to maintain a Jewish majority. Israel was NOT Hitler's or the NS's original plan. They originally planned on many Jews going to Madagascar or Chile but Zionist Jews wanted Palestine.

Also, 125,000 -150,000 Jews fought for the reich some becoming prominent military commanders.

Secondly, 20,000 Jews were transfered as opposed to 100,000 before Hitler ever came to power. It was, to the nazis, the feasible solution to end the boycott.

If you define Zionism as in emigration of Jews, ONLY, then yes, Hitler was a Zionist. BUT accounting for Operation Atlas and arming of Palestinians, they surely did not want to maintain such a Jewish state.

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Yeah, I really doubt Hitler wanted an armed Jewish state in spitting distance of Europe where their could launch revenge attacks at any time.

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But that's literally what the Haavara Agreement did

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The Haavara agreement ended in 1939. The number of Jewish emigrants wasn't what many Israeli Zionists claim it was today. Many, left for the US anyway, and Zionists and Jews of all kinds of sects left for Israel from the beginning of the 19th century.

The Nazis taxed emigrants under the Haavara heavily, especially rich Jews. One can read what Hitler thought Israel would become if a Zionist majority was to emerge there. He accurately predicted what would happen but the Nazis already had plenty of documents on the Zionist project which predated the Nazis by more than 100 years.

Secondly, the Jewish Lehi wanted arms from the nazis but, instead the Nazis fought on the side of the arabs in Palestine, literally started an insurgency against the British and Zionists in Palestine. They also armed the Arab resistance against the Zionists. So, the Haavara was a means to end the boycott and it ended in 1939 as an offical decree.

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Think of the tens of thousands of fervent Zionists here in the US today. The neocons, who were former trotskyite communists, Trotsky the creator of the terrible Cheka; B'nai B'rith, The Jewish Defense League which has a history of terrorist attacks, etc, all are Zionists with an alien status, if I'm allowed to say that. Okay, now take into account that there were many Jewish commissariats that created the Gulag system; Germany almost fell to communism and just next door 8 million died from a manufactured famine.

That said, 125000 to 150000 Jews fought for the Reich, which is quite an odd circumstance considering the mainstream narrative is the story of Hitler and his "Final Solution." A mere 20,000 Jews were transfered under the Haavara program, half of their wealth taken from them, the rest left in tact. It appears Hitler worked with Zionists for awhile to end the boycott but in his black book he had dozens and dozens of Zionists that he ordered the Gestapo to arrest.

For example, the Book 'Before Hitler Came' explains that Hitler was a Zionist who left B'nai B'rith lodges open and was largely funded by the money power. This is mostly disinfo, other than that for awhile B'nai B'rith was left to operate under close watch because they were a Zionist organization and would help to end the Boycott. However by 1939, the Gestapo closed down all the lodges and arrested its leaders. In fact, Hitler's "BANKER" Schacht, a Freemason, who he coincidently? fired in 1939 was percisely when war would be waged. Schacht had worked with Hitler to revitalize the German economy but Hitler would eventually despise him and learn that he was feeding secrets to the British. He ended up in Dachu and Hitler worked to nationalize all banks in Germany. From that point forward the whole of international finance was against him.

It was Schacht's idea, as he writes in his book, that Jews be transfered under the Haavara agreement. He curiously writes that all was going swell until Hitler decided to just stop the transfer and according to schacht, he doesn't know why. I'm sure he knows why, and I'm positive it has something to do with Hitler throwing Schacht in Dachu.

That being said, the Nazis fought by the side of the Arab resistance in Palestine. I'm not sure why the Zionists don't bring this up more often in their propaganda.

[–]poopdawg15 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Can you link to an English version of "Before Hitler Came"?

[–]Jesus[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I thought you read it? I have the google translated version and it is quite hard to discipher.

[–]Jesus[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

He never armed Zionists in mass. It was a trading post for some years and he armed the Arab resistence and fought with them in Operation Atlas.

[–]magnora7 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Maybe the relationship could be said to be similar to the relationship between Osama Bin Laden, and the billionaire royal Saudi Bin Laden family.

[–]Jesus[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

What do you mean?

[–]turtlebam 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Best post I read in a while, lots of info. I was always on the fence on this topic because I never researched it enough. Thx for posting.

[–]Jesus[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Also, he was NOT a Rothschild. German archives have his ancestry.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

Who controls German archives?

[–]Jesus[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

His ancestry is known.

[–]Rah 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Why did he imprison his relative then? And why did Churchill, the mega puppet from the Rothschilds, refused numerous peace deals? It makes zero sense.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

And why did Churchill, the mega puppet from the Rothschilds, refused numerous peace deals? send bombing raids attacking Berlin for seven straight, which forced Hitler to respond.

[–]jet199 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Forced Hitler to respond?

At which time Hitler had already invaded most of western European but he was actually peaceful and being forced to respond?