Psych Meds Linked to 90% of School Shootings. MSM never covers this because it messes with Big Pharma's cash cow.

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https://www.wnd.com/2012/12/psych-meds-linked-to-90-of-school-shootings/

Some 90 percent of school shootings over more than a decade have been linked to a widely prescribed type of antidepressant called selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors or SSRIs, according to British psychiatrist Dr. David Healy, a founder of RxISK.org, an independent website for researching and reporting on prescription drugs.

https://www.cchrint.org/school-shooters/

Fact: At least 36 school shootings and/or school-related acts of violence have been committed by those taking or withdrawing from psychiatric drugs resulting in 172 wounded and 80 killed (in other school shootings, information about their drug use was never made public—neither confirming or refuting if they were under the influence of prescribed drugs). The most important fact about this list, is that these are only cases where the information about their psychiatric drug use was made public.

Original research by /u/OT-GOD-IS-DEMIURGE.

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[–]Tom_Bombadil 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

This is probably true. Let's assume it is. What exactly does this mean?

  • Does it mean that psych meds cause people to commit mass shootings?
  • Does it mean that psych meds are prescribed to people who have psych problems, and people who do not have psych problems don't commit mass shootings?
  • Does it mean that people who commit mass shootings have taken psych meds at some point in their lives, and are eternally categorized together?
  • What does inverting this statistic suggest? 1 in 10 school shooters, haven't seen a psychological specialist or received professional treatment?

Here's an area that doesn't get much multiple shooting coverage: The Gun Violence We Aren’t Talking About: Murder-Suicides

There are on average nearly 11 murder-suicides a week in America", according to a new study by my organization, the Violence Policy Center. We estimate that *more than 1,200 Americans die in murder-suicides each year. Nine out of 10 of these incidents involve a gun, and 72 percent involve an intimate partner.

I'm not sure why school shooting recurves so much attention. My guess is the knee-jerk parental fear. I'd be surprised if more kids died from school shootings, than accidental shootings with their parents guns.

[–]magnora7 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I believe SSRIs are related to a lot of these criminal incidents as well. My read on the situation is that the SSRIs basically give them the motivation to carry out acts that they had only previously just considered. It gives them the "activation energy" to execute actions. Usually, this is a good thing as it can help someone get out of depression and get out of their head and do the things they want to do. This is also the reason some SSRI-based antidepressants can cause suicide, because they spur the person to actions they had previously only been considering, because of a removal of the "activation energy" hump, to use a chemistry term. But for someone who is a killer, this can lead them to actually doing things they had only been considering previously.

That's my understanding of why SSRIs can lead to mass killings.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

It's plausible.

My mother is a therapist and I remember her mentioning something in the 90s that seemed weird at the time, because I hadn't heard of Scientology.

I don't recall the specifics, but there was a community that was active in Hollywood that was very antipsychology, and that there was an ongoing disinformation campaign to discredit Prozac. The jist of this campaign was that the Scientologist claimed that it was inducing suicide in their members, and that there were active lobbying in California to ban Prozac. If you watch mid 90s movies you may notice mentions here and there associations crazy people to Prozac. Could be legit. I have significant reservations. Remember that LRH was extremely hostile to all forms of psychology, and psychiatry. LRH undoubtedly had serious mental issues (cult founder and all).

Bring conspiratorially minded, I'm now looking back at the history of Scientology, and these were times of power consolidation for Miscavage. Prozac would be a useful cover for convenient deaths, etc. I have no evidence, but who would? These Seaorg guys run a tight ship. :-/. Also, it was at this time that Scientology started pushing the "activation energy" idea, but I'm don't recall it was called that at the time.

Scientology is fairly influential in Hollywood, and there are also many clever folks in Hollywood who would opportunistly co-opt this idea for their own nefarious interests. That's how bad/false science gets spread throughout the populace. Media and repetition. Similar to that BS legend of swallowing an avgerage of 7 spiders/year in your sleep, which was a thesis designed to understand/reproduce a story similar to the antidepressant makes some people crazy theory.

Also, from a thought experiment perspective the idea has truthiness, but the idea quickly falls on its face if you think it through. So, were asked to believe that certain individuals temporarily lose some measure of sanity as they start to feel better, and then decide to go shoot their friends and/or co-workers??? I'd that a joke? Where is the evidence, because if we are intellectually honest there's an even more significant factor. The shooters are virtually all white males. I'm quite certain that women have higher rates of depression, and higher rates of antidepressant usage. How about African Americans? Where are their school massacres? Asians? Etc.? The evidence suggests that we should coin a "white male shooter energy activation" term.

If the activation energy theory is credible, then we should be discussing how we need to keep white men away from guns when initially using antidepressants. Also, the notion of "activation energy" suggests a ramp up period. Is all well, after that first 30 days? Or should we start white men of with homeopathic doses of antidepressants, so they don't "activate" and shoot up the community. Why isn't anyone in the media or medicine dismantling this absurd idea, cause it's glaringly obvious.

Unfortunately, these ideas are very persistent. I'm a similar way, I bet more than a few 9/11 Truthers get all nervous on airplanes around perceived 'Muslim terrorist'; even though in their minds they know that's a lie. Confirmation bias is a difficult mental hurdle to overcome, in spite of obvious facts.

Anyway, that's the history as I'm aware of this notion of antidepressants and "activation energy". It's way easier to fool someone, than to convince them that they've been fooled.

Once again, I'm not 100% certain of the facts as they truly are. Only the facts as I currently understand them. I'd encourage you to look into it and prove me wrong.

It is interesting however, that the media is fixating on the antidepressants; rather than the obvious fact that it's white males that are involved in the overwhelming majority of these mass shootings.

  • Then there's the evidence of Manchurian candidate crap (Denver)
  • FBI connection to the Pulse shooters father
  • A litany of unexplainable anomalies associated with Sandy Hook
  • Vegas shooting cover up, and FBI Philippino girlfriend
  • FBI had been contacted numerous times about the Florida school shooter
  • The San Bernardino False Flag evidence

So, I'll leave it at that.

Edit:. The white male shooter this is problematic, and had been chronically overlooked. We have a serious problem on our hands. Unfortunately, the MSM obfuscates the facts, so honest researchers are using bad data.

"If you can keep them asking the wrong questions, then you don't have to worry about the answers."
-Some Fucking Asshole. :-/

[–]magnora7 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Black people kill each other in gang violence when they do mass killings, just look at Chicago. There's often incidents in china of a guy killing 20 people with a knife. I'd say race has little to do with it.

So, were asked to believe that certain individuals temporarily lose some measure of sanity as they start to feel better, and then decide to go shoot their friends and/or co-workers?

No that's misunderstanding what was said. They already wanted to do this, and the SSRI simply gave them the ability to do it instead of just thinking about it, by lowering the inhibition barrier between thoughts and action.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Magnora7, I find that you are an exceptionally intelligent and analytical person (as well as can be estimated by reading thoughtful comments, etc.), so hopefully you aren't feeling offended by this ol' chunk of coal. If so, I would like to formally apologize. The person who stated this in the past (and i don't care to dignify by naming) is basically bragging about it; is an ass.

Additionally, I like to mix a bit of salty language into my statements. We're not robots. However, if I did have a robot that could talk, I might program it to swear.

"If you can keep them asking the wrong questions, then you don't have to worry about the answers."
-Some Fucking Asshole. :-/

Aight:

Black people kill each other in gang violence when they do mass killings, just look at Chicago. There's often incidents in china of a guy killing 20 people with a knife. I'd say race has little to do with it.

IMO gang violence is organization related, and goal oriented. Tactical. Strategic. Territorial. Targeted. These actions are performed for some strategic gain.
Similar to terrorism; given terrorism typically appears random, but is often targeted for various reasons.

The Chinese knife wielding rampage is something that i'm unfamiliar with. Killed 20 people?! So, a single person was able to *chase down and murder 20 people with a knife??? Crucially, chase down.. 20??? That's a difficult feat to accomplish with a gun.

These examples are interesting, but somewhat off-topic, as the article is focused on the "antidepressant connection" to school shootings.

Let's examine the evidence and ask ourselves a few questions:

  • Are non-white people involved as the shooters in a significant percentage of recent school shootings? Y/N?
  • Are there school shootings involving women (or trans for that matter) shooters? Y/N?
  • If black/arabic people were committing 50%-75% of the shootings would this be mentioned in the MSM? Y/N?

So, if the majority of mass school shootings are being committed by a specific ethnic/cultural/gender group then isn't that worth evaluating objectively?

Does anyone feel that these are racist questions? It is analysis 101. I don't think that's racist.

Concerning gang violence: I seem to recall that there were gang shootings in schools in the 80's. Has this gone away? If so, what were the underlying causes? Were there any external factors that contributed to these shootings? Is it possible that some of these could have been false flags?

"So, were asked to believe that certain individuals temporarily lose some measure of sanity as they start to feel better, and then decide to go shoot their friends and/or co-workers?"

No that's misunderstanding what was said. They already wanted to do this, and the SSRI simply gave them the ability to do it instead of just thinking about it, by lowering the inhibition barrier between thoughts and action.

Is there any evidence that people wanted to commit mass school shootings (or suicide); prior to the "activation energy" event that is theorized to be caused by antidepressants? Theory's are technical in that all theory's must be testable. Is there a way to test this idea? If so, then where is the research, and who funded it?

IMO the "social sciences" are a tissue of contradictions. Including economics, which has some measurable metrics. The fraud is often apparent when the source(s) of the funding is revealed.
-Just saying...

[–]magnora7 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah, you should maybe read more Chinese news, and see what goes on in China. Check this out: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=chinese+mass+murder+knife&atb=v109-6__&iar=news&ia=news

First article is about "another" mass stabbing/slaying that killed 29 people and injured 140 in one go.

I don't think gang violence has really changed. Maybe it has lessened a bit. It's just a natural consequence of people who feel alienated ganging up to defend themselves and try and help each other out. There's obviously a lot of corruption and backstabbing that goes on as well, but that's the general idea as I understand it. Then you get in to turf wars and so on, and selling crack and wanting to control those areas to maximize profit. Crack which is ironically coming mostly from the CIA.

Is there a way to test this idea? If so, then where is the research, and who funded it?

Yes there is, but the research is of course suppressed by the companies making all this money, as well as those companies paying the media to look the other way. The public doesn't really hear about it, it's an "open secret". I'm sure we could dig up papers that support my assertion here, it's not exactly a controversial theory about how SSRIs work, I'd even wager it's the default stance of the psychology community. That's why not everyone should take SSRIs, but of course for profit reasons there's a lot of pressure to prescribe it to anyone who will accept it. Same with opioids.

There's so many compounding problems that would have to be systematically addressed all together to really make significant progress.

I think it all boils down to a bad economy. People do bad stuff when their back is against the wall and they're struggling to survive. I think that's the root of a lot of this. Plus our culture is being overwritten by our media, with pro-corporate anti-human values, so it's hard for the culture to even wake up to what is happening unless the media points it out for us. Which they generally won't, because they're paid not to.