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[–]HibikiBlackCaudillo 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

My own belief is that the conditions of the camps actually lasted until 1944, probably until the allies started heavily attacking the supply lines despite the protests of the Red Cross, which if true, pretty much destroys all the mainstream and revisionist Holocaust narratives. Depending on how low the true kill count really is, not only would the Germans be able to get rid of the Shoa milk cow industry but even character assassinate the Jews...

[–]Rob3122[S] 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

Excellent post. For those reading who don't already know those things...please take a moment and check out some of the links above provided by u/HibikiBlack

[–]HibikiBlackCaudillo 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

One of the reasons why I'm confident of the claims is that Himmler gave orders to preserve the lives at those camps as a priority. I have reasons to believe that Himmler was far more powerful than Hitler himself.

I'll have to go back and read the German files all over again, I haven't checked them in years but I'll try to trace back either Himmler's orders or the German deportation attempts all the way to 1944. If I manage to do that, then it would be a fatal blow to all the Holocaust narratives and the only way of proving who is correct at that point would be with the forensic evidence.

[–]Rob3122[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I think it was just that Himmler was more hands on regarding the jew situation.

[–]Gaslov 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (17 children)

The narrative of the nazi death camps, while possible, seems inconsistent. The germans knew they were losing the war. If the goal truly were Jewish extermination, why not execute all the Jews? Then again, if the goal were deportation, why didn't they do that? The nazi treatment of the jews is very curious.

It should be no surprise that fantastical stories about the holocaust are out there. That's going to happen with literally everything. However, being shamed for investigating holocaust fraud is extremely suspect.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

they did kill a few hundred thousand. Which is horrifying in itself. The jews decided to exaggerate with the 6 million number for various reasons.

[–]humancorpse 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

there is no evidence that the holocaust happened, just like there was no evidence that biden stole the election.

[–]chadwickofwv 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

No, there's actually a shitload of evidence the presidential election was stolen. It just isn't allowed to be shown on main stream media.

[–]ShalomEveryone 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Too bad trump's lawyers failed to present that evidence in court. All of his lawsuits failed.



[–]chadwickofwv 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yea, that tends to happen when the courts will not allow you to present evidence.

File lawsuit before election over blatant criminal actions by election boards: no, you have to show evidence of harm to file a lawsuit!

File lawsuit after election day over blatant voter fraud: no, you can't file a lawsuit, because... some places are still counting ballots!

File lawsuit as soon as all of the ballots have been counted over blatant voter fraud: no, you can't file a lawsuit because the election is over!!!!

You know, totally a free and fair election... until you stop pretending.

[–]ShalomEveryone 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (11 children)

The narrative of the nazi death camps, while possible, seems inconsistent.

It's consistent, not inconsistent. It's only inconsistent to those who want to deny what occurred.

The germans knew they were losing the war.

They only knew they were losing the war after making the mistake of invading Russia. Not years earlier when they were in the middle of building concentration camps where they exterminated Jews and other groups of people.

If the goal truly were Jewish extermination, why not execute all the Jews?

Because Jews were needed for slave labor, who do you think help build more than 1,000 death camps? The Jews did. Jews were also used for slave labor during the war effort.

Jewish women were also used as sex slave by Nazi soldiers, the soldiers sure did not want to kill all of them off.

When stories like this come up people like to use it to cast doubt on the holocaust.



[–]Rob3122[S] 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (4 children)

"Death camps" 🤣. Death camps that allow them to have soccer games, concerts, theater and even maternity wards.

[–]ShalomEveryone 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

You forgot to mention they also had carnivals, ice cream socials, pony rides and synagogues.



[–]Rob3122[S] 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

I guess these people are liars

[–]ShalomEveryone 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Typical, trying to deny the lives lost at death camps.

Notably, the babies born inside concentration camps were not released into the communities. For example, of the 3,000 babies born at Auschwitz, some 2,500 newborns were drowned in a barrel at the maternity ward by the German female overseers.

The mortality of the Zivil- und Ostarbeiter babies was very high on average, exceeding 50 percent regardless of circumstances. It is estimated that between 1943 and 1945 some 100,000 infants of slave labourers from Poland and the Soviet Union were killed by forced abortion or by calculated neglect after birth in Germany.

By other estimates, up to 200,000 children might have died. A German general and NSDAP government official, Erich Hilgenfeldt, while inspecting some of those locations was troubled by what he saw. He reported that the children were dying in an unnecessarily slow, tortuous process lasting for months, due to inadequate food rations.

Let's not act like these maternity wards were there for babies to be born and provided with care so they can grow up to be healthy children.



[–]Rob3122[S] 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Well if wikipedia says so...

You seriously think they would use all that time and resources to deliver 3k babies...just to drown them. Sounds pretty ridiculous, right?

[–]Gaslov 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (5 children)

Why build death camps? Was the goal slavery? Slavery makes more sense than extermination.

[–]ShalomEveryone 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

The goal was not slavery, the goal was extermination. Round up the Jews, use some to be slaves for the war effort and kill others off. Slaves were eventually killed off themselves when they were no longer healthy enough to provide slave labor for the war effort. You're conflating two things as a means to deny the holocaust occurred.



[–]Gaslov 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

I am not denying the holocaust occurred. The Nazi's clearly had it out for Jews. But some of the details should be questioned.

[–]ShalomEveryone 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

You're engaging in holocaust denial.

Hol·o·caust de·ni·al

Learn to pronounce


noun: Holocaust denial

the belief or assertion that the Holocaust did not happen or was greatly exaggerated.



[–]chadwickofwv 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

So how do you explain the fact that the Jewish population in Germany grew during the Holocaust?

[–]Gaslov 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

So you believe there is not a single aspect of the holocaust that wasn't exaggerated? Is this article not evidence that at least this person's claims were lies?