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[–]jet199 13 insightful - 2 fun13 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

Huge amount of personality disorders in medicine.

A large number of surgeons are outright psychopaths.

[–]SMCAB 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

Add the Anesthesiologists with the God complexes and you have a whole building of psychos.

[–]chottohen 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

There are rehab facilities solely for Anesthesiologists. My source is a married couple I met who were both of that occupation. It seems that addiction is not a matter of character or education but availability.

[–]jet199 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

No, it's character.

As I said, many narcissists go into medicine to show off how great they are.

Most people have access to drugs.

[–]chottohen 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

You drive a hard bargain. 😵‍💫

[–]send_nasty_stuff 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

What types of drugs were the anesthesiologist abusing? Do you think this starts in college when they take a bunch of academic performance enhancers like adderall?

[–]chottohen 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Adderall must be popular in med schools and I'll bet those Fentanyl lollis are popular too. Everything starts in college. The two I met were straight arrows but only because they get blood-tested often.

[–]Bigs 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I agree. My mother RIP had a deep distrust, if not disgust, for doctors. I used to think she was a bit paranoid but this farce has proven the cunts are even worse than she thought.

Note that she came to distrust them after working for many years as a nurse.

[–]RedEyedWarrior 9 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Doctors are just Big Pharma salesmen.

[–][deleted] 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

Yeah, unfortunately this isn't the first massive failure of doctors. I think much more highly of gas station clerks than a GP. I don't even have a regular doctor. If I need a refill on meds I either see my talented cardiologist or use a doc-in-a-box. Some specialists are decent.

[–]raven9 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I dont even trust cardiologists. Most of them still push the same narratives that those Harvard scientists were bribed to publish by big sugar back in the 1960s. Blame it on sodium they said.

Dr Oz is the only one I trust because he came out and said it. Sugar is the enemy that scours the insides of our arteries like ground glass. That's what he said. It's not fat, it's not salt, it's not cholesterol. The enemy is sugar. Cholesterol is what the body lays down on those inflamed areas of the arteries to try and protect them from further damage.

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Dr Oz is the only one I trust

Dr. Oz had peddled plenty of quackery on his TV show. I am not a fan.

Blame it on sodium they said

I did the whole low sodium thing for years, it was awful and it didn't help. I wouldn't go back to a doctor pushing another low sodium diet

[–]jet199 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Most doctors are intensely uncurious about the possibility they might be wrong and have things they need to learn.

They far prefer talking down to others.

[–]SMCAB 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I found a DO right after Covid started. This is the way for me. I told her to never use the word Covid around me, and that she could ask once about the vaccine. She laughed and said "I get it" without really saying it. We get along, I'm extremely honest with her about my vices, and she's extremely honest with me about meds and alternative therapies. I feel like I finally found one.

Just like any other profession there are good and bed ones. You gotta keep trying to find one, I'm now set I hope.

My last doctor wouldn't give me a prostate exam even though I explained the symptoms, and his reason was because I wasn't 40 yet. I shit you not.

[–]Masterblaster 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

The real psychopaths are OB-GYNs.

[–]chottohen 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

If you haven't already, you would enjoy the diary of an OB-Gyn, This is Going to Hurt. The author should give me a cut since this is the third time I've mentioned it. /u/Jet199 tells me it will soon be a BBC comedy.

[–]jet199 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

[–]chottohen 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Thanks Jet. I will dial my VPN to UK and cheers to you.

[–]Anman 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The few doctors who speak up

In Australia those that absolutely refused to cave in, lost their ability to practice medicine.

[–]agent_pecan 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

In ten years, my doctor has never had a single idea that I didn't research and suggest for anything. Maybe I am an exception here but I am definitely more intelligent than my doctor, they just had the money for medical school while I had to go to the military to get education money.

[–]send_nasty_stuff 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I think what people need to realize is that you (the individual) are more motivated to be healthy than your doctor is. Your doctor has a career and a heavy salary to protect. He's not going to go against protocols. Even if those protocols might not be healthy for you. You don't have to have a higher IQ than your doctor to do extra research on something and be more informed then he is on a particular aspect of health. Nutrition is the prime example of this. Most doctors give nutrition advice that was popular whatever year they graduated from med school. Nutrition science has been changing rapidly even in the last 5 years.

[–]soundsituation 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Nutrition science has been changing rapidly even in the last 5 years.

Got any examples? I casually follow nutrition trends but it's taken a back seat to other interests recently so I'm curious about what I might have missed.

[–]send_nasty_stuff 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Gut biome, mitochondria uncoupling, seedoil dangers, test boosters, estrogenic foods, leaky gut, fasting is better understood (autophagey), poop transplants, torpor related to fructose/uric acid, carnivore, bone broth, organ meats, sun exposure, dopamine, saturated fats as super food, fermented foods, pro salt movement, pure stearic acid, berberine, IF, low protein keto, deenz, iodine. That's off the top of my head. I'm sure there are a few I'm leaving out.

Check out Ivor Cummings, Low Carb Down Under youtube and Andrew Hubberman podcasts.

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Nurses, too.

[–]MagicMike 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The world is getting more stupid, just like Idiocracy, as the number of baboons and swimmers grows exponentially. Stupidity of the masses leaves an opening for the smarter people to gather in the dollars. I mean, the dumb fucks voted for a guy who shits his pants and needs a suitcase full of drugs to function.

[–]chottohen 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Medical schools are conservative in the extreme and they produce very conservative graduates.

[–]send_nasty_stuff 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You left out cowardly. The same thing happened to academics over the last half century. If you're outspoken and the University thinks you might be a problem for their power structure you're not hired. Getting a tenure track and retiring with lots of money is the coal not science or truth. This creates a problem because sometimes professors and researchers need to be courageous.

It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it. Upton Sinclair.

[–]LouisXIV 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

People talk about lawyers (and with good cause) but as a guy who has spent most of a lifetime working with attorneys and doctors, there really is not much to choose between them. Those who think doctors comprise some kind of hero class are deluded.

[–]d3lta105 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Careful, that's how you start believing in flat earth.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

They are neither. They are simply trained to gobble 'information' and regurgitate it through their very long schooling. Most of the information they are exposed to is at least partially true, if outdated, but true enough to be useful. Those who succeed are good at that, not at taking care of people's health. They are also trained to keep patients at distance, morally, from themselves. This distancing makes them cold and truly without care for those they are charged with helping.

Then they get visits from the nice pharma reps who tell them about all the awesome new stuff their corporation has been making. They gobble that too. And now they are hundreds of thousands in debt (most of them anyway) and need to live the lifestyle, so they take the least time possible with their patients.

When the jab came, the same routine as always: Pharma rep goes, 'we have the jab that solves this whole thing! effective and harmless!!!' and the doc gobbles it up, jabs his patients, gets a Ferrarri from Moderna and everything's fine.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

How is this different from stupid or unethical?

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It is different in that they are TRAINED to be this way. It is not a fault of their own but of the process of making medical doctors. Which, like everything else, is part of the agenda to fuck the world up.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I was just watching a Rogan video, where he was interviewing Jim Breuer. Jim was talking about all the bullshit around Corona and how stupidly politicized it was. Then you go down into the comments, and you have people talking about their 93 year old grandmother not being treated at the hospital sufficiently. They almost killed her from stopping an effective treatment. That hospital was incentivized to kill her.

[–]exlib 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The medical industrial complex is overrated. They are good at prolonging misery and torture, but can't prevent it.