Why I Still Think Alex Jones Was Right About Sandy Hook

submitted by raven9 from self.conspiracy

There was supposed to have been at least 500 kids in that school. If the family of each one only had 10 close friends, relatives and neighbors that would have been 5000 people with first hand knowledge so when all the hoax theory began, there should have been thousands of people saying they know it really happened because their bother's kids were at that school or because their dad was one of the fireman or the cops or their cousin or their neighbor had kids at the school etc. What we actually saw was what you would expect if it was a government psyop. No one outside the select group of "crisis actors" speaking about it because anyone else involved in staging it would have been instructed not to discuss it.

Secondly the helicopter footage of fire dept building. There should have been between 400 and 500 kids evacuated to that fire dept so we should have seen the parents of those kids arriving, picking up their kids and getting in their cars to take them home yet if you watch the helicopter footage all you will see is a procession of adults coming out of the door at the rear of the fire house and walking around the building. No kids. No one coming out with their kids and getting into their cars to go home. Just a continuous procession of adults coming out of that door and circling the building as if they have something important to do. Exactly what you might expect if a small number of people were trying to make it appear that a much larger number of people were there.

Thirdly, the helicopter footage also showed the only road from the main highway down to the school was completely blocked by random vehicles. There is no way the cops at a real crime scene would have allowed that. No one could drive in to or from the school. Again, this is what you would expect if it was all staged. Keep everyone away from the school. Even the local and state cops.

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[–]EpsteinDidntKillHims 10 insightful - 4 fun10 insightful - 3 fun11 insightful - 4 fun -  (19 children)

How the fuck can anybody believe Sandy Hook actually happened with all the evidence of the crisis actors, and pre-prepared media reports, zero autopsy reports, all the actual footage removed from the internet...

[–]HanssenBob 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (10 children)

zero autopsy reports

I've read Lanza's.

[–]tyranicaloverlord 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

No you didn't, it was blacked out and redacted in the reports.

This is the shills I identified in my original response. They just lie for the sake of it hoping no one calls them out.

[–]HanssenBob 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Not zero.

What do you say was blacked out in the version of something that didn't exist that you saw?

Edit: I used to doubt Sandy Hook until I read everything there is to read about it. If you want my opinion on why crime-scene photos weren't released, but endless other law-enforcement materials were, just let me know.

[–]JasonCarswellPlatinum Foil Fedora 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Link?

[–]HanssenBob 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I'm not going to spend hours searching for something I read a year ago. Read the material linked in the relevant forums.

[–]JasonCarswellPlatinum Foil Fedora 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

If you want my opinion on why crime-scene photos weren't released, but endless other law-enforcement materials were, just let me know.

I did.

Sandy Hook is a ludicrous psyop wrapped in ridiculous errors and an abundance of clues that make it obvious. All you have to do is look, despite all the online censorship trying to hide the farce.

[–]tyranicaloverlord 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

What do you say was blacked out in the version of something that didn't exist that you saw?

What?

I used to doubt Sandy Hook until I read everything there is to read about it.

I seriously doubt you did, because if you actually did read everything about it, you too would be sitting in the same corner as me. Go what the documentary "We need to talk about sandy hook."

The documentary will help you along, I know there is a lot to read and most people don't bother. They read snipets, and opinion pieces. Most people don't read the official released report that was redacted to all hell and compare time lines to video and the official report. But most people have time for a 2 hour documentary.

[–]HanssenBob 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'm interested in primary sources. Read the Sandy Hook lighthouse blog and listen to Lanza's videos. Read the original material.

Edit: I've seen it, of course.

[–]EpsteinDidntKillHims 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

The kids' autopsy reports shill.

[–]JasonCarswellPlatinum Foil Fedora 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Link?

[–]RACHEL_THECOW 9 insightful - 3 fun9 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

There are sooo many reasons that make it crystal clear that Sandy hook was a bullshit hoax..

Isn't it weird that there was no video inside the school, yet a decade earlier there was the columbine shooting and there is plenty of video about it?

Fyi, Alex Jones only said in court that Sandy hook was real because he was winking at the camera as he said that AND they were trying to wipe him out financially.

Video: columbine shooting

https://youtu.be/U5QG-I9Ced0

[–]Alienhunter 6 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 3 fun -  (7 children)

My argument,

Why bother to fake it when you can just hire a deepstate agent or goad a crazy to actually kill the kids?

Like why go through all the trouble to fake it? You think the politicians give a fuck about not killing actual kids?

[–]raven9[S] 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Just because they could do it for real doesn't mean they would. There is much less risk involved in staging a fake incident. I don't think even Obama would have dared to do it for real. One whistleblower and the entire administration is in the frame, accused of murdering American children.

[–]tyranicaloverlord 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

Because this was the first major school shooting of an outsider. They weren't willing to sacrifice children yet.

They learned from this incident that it's best to do just what you mention because they got called on the hoax. That's how you end up with Parkland and Uvalde.

[–]Ehhhhhh 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Those too were hoaxes.

[–]tyranicaloverlord 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Nah, those were real shootings by someone who was programmed using MK-Ultra. I also forgot about the night club in Orlando, that too was an MK Ultra job.

[–]jet199 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Exactly.

Too many people are afraid they aren't they most important thing in the world and mass sympathy for other who people they don't know only proves that point.

[–]SeethingPeasant 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

You mean like Uvalde? Oh wait those kids don't exist either. Someone tried to find them in the social security database. Not one of them showed up.

[–]JasonCarswellPlatinum Foil Fedora 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Fake kids = less real legal issues with real families.

Who is to blame and be held accountable? School boards, police departments, first responders, politicians, big pharma, gun companies, media, etc. Why take the risk of it blowing back on your psyop with real victims?

Q: Who went to prison?

A: No one.

[–]JasonCarswellPlatinum Foil Fedora 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

34 Questions On Sandy Hook Shooting That Have Never Been Answered + mirror (12:50)

33 Unanswered Questions About Sandy Hook — Unsolved Mysteries Endure
https://StillnessInTheStorm.com/2017/06/33-unanswered-questions-about-sandy-hook-unsolved-mysteries-endure/

Wolfgang Halbig Sixteen Questions:
https://www.SandyHookHoax.info/wolfgang-halbig-sixteen16-questions/

We Need To Talk About Sandy Hook (2:46:45)

Online you can find photos of JFK and Marilyn's corpses. You can find no end of gruesome images of casualties of war, including children. Respect the memory of their children? The way we respect children under our bombs? What makes these families so special, different than victims elsewhere, foreign and domestic. There is absolutely no reason why they can't even release/leak a censored photo for proof. Even just a photo of Adam Lanza's corpse - as they did with the alleged Boston bomber. There was no massacre.

[–]SoCo 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

If you believe in Sandy Hook or not, the trials against Dick-Face Jones have been obvious irrational dog-and-pony shows to anyone who is a study of law and trial cases. Like joke 'punishments' for not producing enough not-actually-subpoenaed-specifically documents to incriminate yourself...

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

The entire premise that he is 'guilty' of sharing an opinion that they are unhappy with is bollocks, MSM would be bankrupt if they had to pay out $4m for every hit piece they fabricated to sell another paper. The harder they push it, the more bullshit it sounds.

[–]SoCo 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

New York Times recently has weaseled out of several fabrications. Notably, reporting that that nutty lady from Alaska was involved in a murder. It was hailed a win for journalism and free speech. Jones apparently is forced to play by different rules.

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

It's a shameful display, as was the Floyd sentencing. They followed their police training and the guy died of an overdose as he nearly died from the week earlier, but the sentence was for show. The legal system is a farce.

[–]JasonCarswellPlatinum Foil Fedora 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Alex Jones Connecticut Trial LIVE! Taco Tuesday with Viva & Barnes! (2:33:08) ~ Viva Frei

[–]SeethingPeasant 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Don't forget that the "bodies" of the "kids" we left in the school for 24hrs and pronounced dead on scene, which is unheard of, they are pronounced at the hospital. EMT's were not allowed on scene, the coroner laughing and joking live on TV, the father robbie Parker laughing and joking before a press conference, then getting into character at the podium. Also, Connecticut sealed everything forever. The pictures of some of the kids were taken from living fb profiles and parents posted saying "stop posting my child's picture as a victim of sandy hook, she's alive and well." Also, they found the principals, some teachers, and some others DNA and fingerprints on bullets, components inside the guns but ZERO DNA from Lanza. A news article about the shooting was posted 24 hours before the shooting occurred as well. Adam Lanza is David Hogg. Oh and everyone of the parents moved there a couple weeks before, bought their houses for $1, then moved out a week after, and they all worked in the dnc/gov.

[–]send_nasty_stuff 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

It was clearly a hoax.

[–]Newzok 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

I wouldn't know. The more conspiracy minded might say that whether a hoax or not, worse shit has been done as part of an op. It wouldn't be beyond them to have it be a real thing. It's a way to keep society unstable and focused on the never ending gun control issue and it pushes people to be more insecure, meaning they're more willing to accept more authoritarian government policy.

[–]JasonCarswellPlatinum Foil Fedora 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I wouldn't know.

All you have to do is dig a bit.
Once you investigate a little, you can never unlearn that it's a major scam.

In another comment here I provided a good start with 4 links.

[–]rubberbiscuit 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

I don't have time to study or investigate this. But what I do know, because its obvious and absolutely clear, is that the US government WOULD do it simply to have an argument to get people's guns. Just like they WOULD force a vaccine on people who have no need for it to reduce populations or just prepare the masses for forced emergency vaccinations as a given, so they can serve purposes in the future. It doesn't matter whether it was fake or not, the point is (to me at least) CAN they fake it and TO WHAT END. Once you answer those simple questions, don't let them accomplish what they set out to accomplish whether they did it or not.

[–]JasonCarswellPlatinum Foil Fedora 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

You don't need much time to understand the Sandy Hook psyop. Just look at these.

[–]tyranicaloverlord 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

Sandy Hook did not happen. They are going hard against it using the useful idiots who say to trust the media.

There is a very easy solution to get rid of the conspiracy theorists, and they can't. Show us the pictures of Adam Lanza dead and his autopsy. Show us his dead mother and her autopsy. Show us the picture of the pile of dead kids.

The legislation hastily passed to block any and all reports of the incident from being shared publicly is most suspect. Luckily we got it before the legislation passed, however the entire 900 page report was almost all redacted.

The timeline one camera does not match the report.

The laughing parent before his TV performance.

The family who went to go me Barack Obama and were happy and gleeful as if they never lost a kid.

Gene Rosen. Everything about him and the leaked tapes.

Some random guy in the woods? Who and why?

Sandy Hook having been decommissioned years before the incident, and those records conveniently gone missing.

The people walking in circles for hours at the firehouse.

The list goes on and on. I am certain there are people being paid since that day to run interference online. They pop up in every discussion about Sandy Hook with the exact same carbon copy responses, and are glaring lies.

Sandy Hook was a hoax, it failed, and now they are going against Jones to shut everyone up about it.

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

Show us the pictures of Adam Lanza dead and his autopsy.

The toxocology report at the end of the appendix. The details of the suicide shot are from page A138.

https://schoolshooters.info/sites/default/files/Appendix_to_Sandy_Hook_Official_Report.pdf

Show us the picture of the pile of dead kids.

Wow. If you don't satisfy my goulish desires, you faked it.

[–]JasonCarswellPlatinum Foil Fedora 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Wow. If you don't satisfy my goulish desires, you faked it.

Deflection and not the point. Evidence matters.

There's no shortage of other crimes being made public. What makes this one so special? Online you can find photos of JFK and Marilyn's corpses, as well as casualties of war, including children in all the nations the West destroys in far more gruesome ways. There is absolutely no reason why they can't even release/leak a censored photo for proof. There was no massacre at Sandy Hook.

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

The reason that there's no photo of a pile of bodies, is that no one wants to see a photo of a pile of bodies.

[–]JasonCarswellPlatinum Foil Fedora 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

THOUSANDS, if not MILLIONS, of people want to see ANY photo that can prove it happened as they claim.

[–]tyranicaloverlord 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

You should read your own source material. Fucking christ you fucking shills. THE WHOLE FUCKING PAGE IS REDACTED! Just like I fucking said. Fuck you and your shilling bullshit. I am so sick and tired of you fucks.

Wow. If you don't satisfy my goulish desires, you faked it.

There there is this fucking shit. Fuck you. This is your only fucking go-to. Did they teach you this as a method to sway the normies out there?

Are you claiming that every Jew has Goulish desires because they hung pictures of dead children from the halocaust in their meseum?

Did you ever stop to think about that? No you fucking didn't. I also know the carbon copy response tot he halocaust comparison and the museum. I can't wait for it to hit, bring it.

Go back to reddit you fucking shill.

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

THE WHOLE FUCKING PAGE IS REDACTED!

Which page are you discussing?

Are you claiming that every Jew has Goulish desires because they hung pictures of dead children from the halocaust in their meseum?

Quite different. You don't want to mourn or remember these children. You want them forgotten.

[–]package 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

If the family of each one only had 10 close friends, relatives and neighbors that would have been 5000 people with first hand knowledge so when all the hoax theory began, there should have been thousands of people saying they know it really happened because their bother's kids were at that school or because their dad was one of the fireman or the cops or their cousin or their neigbour had kids at the school etc.

This logic actually shows how ridiculous the hoax theory is; do you honestly expect anyone to believe that at least 5000 people could be involved in some way in such a thing and not a single one has blown the whistle by now? Or do you think none of these people ever existed?

[–]raven9[S] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

[–]SENDMONEY 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

do you honestly expect anyone to believe that at least 5000 people could be involved in some way in such a thing and not a single one has blown the whistle by now?

I WAS A PART OF THE HOAX AND AM READY TO BLOW A WHISTLE.

ask me anything.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Do you need reading glasses?

[–]JasonCarswellPlatinum Foil Fedora 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

I don't like all of the OP's logic, but assuming 5000 people - yes, that is a lot, perhaps too many, perhaps not enough. But how many people are in government running the global lockdown scamdemic? Waaaaaay more. Of course there are the big ops with some leaks - that we know of. But how many big ops do NOT have leaks? We will never know. Do you know how many whistleblowers there were for 9/11, JFK, etc? Too many to list. Yet they don't get coverage on the corporate media - for a reason. Unless you look you'll never find out.

Have you even tried to be skeptical?

Have a look.

[–]package 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Of the 5000 people the majority aren't spooks, and a significant number are minors. Not even slightly plausible that that many people could be made to keep silent or even just keep their story straight.

[–]JasonCarswellPlatinum Foil Fedora 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Rings within rings. Who has or controls the critical info? Those in charge. Everyone else has to hear it from them or indirectly, and trust what they are hearing. If there's an anomaly, unless it's too large to ignore, most folks won't shout about it. There are not 5000 testimonies to pour over, assuming people even wanted to document every minute detail, right or wrong, for later sleuths to discover.

This whole 5000 line of thought is ludicrous on its face.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

only had 10 close friends, relatives and neighbors

Does anyone here have that, or anything close to that?

[–]raven9[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Seriously? I thought I was massively under estimating by a factor of ten!

I live in a rural area so I have only about 30 local neighbors that are on first name terms with me and stop to chat or wave when they see me. My family, including cousins uncles etc is at least another 30 people. My wife's family is at least another 30 then work collegues and other random friends is god knows how many. I mean I don't do facebook but my wife does and even though she is a shy person she has over 100 people in FB that she knows in real life.

I probably should have said each family surely has 100 people that knows them personally so there should have been something like 50,000 people that were saying they personally knew the SH families.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I lived next to a mom and her son for a decade, we only spoke a handful of times. When she was moving out I told her she was a great neighbor, and she was, she was quiet and kept to herself. I used to be friends with neighbors in the past, they always end up asking for favore and not returning any. Lots of drama too. It's easier to keep distance.

[–]proc0 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

If I'm an evil politician or person that wants power, and I want some gruesome massacre of kids... I wouldn't fake the whole incident, trying to coordinate everyone's acting and stories. Instead I would just make sure the shooter hides his motives, but the killings are real. That's easier, and much simpler to execute.

Staging the whole ordeal seems super unnecessary for any reason.

[–]JasonCarswellPlatinum Foil Fedora 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Staging the whole ordeal seems super unnecessary for any reason.

There were a lot of reasons. 1) Scam to give the parents monstrous money. 2) Blame ze guns. 3) Test their ability to fake psyops. Practice, practice, practice!!! 4) Test the media and social media control. 5) The 2012/2013 NDAA changed things so they can now do domestic propaganda and psyops (perpetually lie), ushering in Sandy Hook, Boston bombing, rigged elections, Russiagate, Vegas shooting, Notre Dame, COVID, Lockdown, Jan 6, Ukraine, collapse, etc etc etc. So many psyops.

[–]proc0 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Hmm, well going point by point: 1) you don't need an elaborate scam to give people money like that, it would be enough with some other financial scam

2) The guns are still blamed either way, whether it was staged or not. no difference here

3) Who is really practicing here? Maybe some people behind the scenes, but everyone else can't be "reused" as crisis actors

4) They already have control over media and social media, they don't need to test it. If they're testing the effectiveness of it on crowds, then maybe this is a plausible point. Granted.

5) Sure, but it's not evidence. Both things can be true. Shootings actually happen and there is probably a ton of propaganda surrounding it.

The main point is that it's easier to conspire a real shooting than a fake one, and it's not even necessary to fake it. Imagine if the JFK conspiracy was about how JFK never actually got shot, and that was all special effects, and he lived in secrecy until he died. While possible, it's extremely unlikely and it's much more easier to believe a conspiracy just hired the assassin and made him lie about the motives. Similarly with Sandy Hook, if there is a conspiracy I don't think it's the staging of the incident itself.

[–]JasonCarswellPlatinum Foil Fedora 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

1) There are INDUSTRIES of scams. Whether it's the military, secret agencies, Holocaust "survivors", Sandy Hook "survivors", etc. This isn't just about the individuals, it's the infrastructure that supports them - lawyers, police, hospitals, media, private investigators, politicians, "non-profits", charities, etc etc etc. They're all getting cuts from it.

2) Not all the guns are banned yet. They need us to be completely defenseless.

3) The first responders, police, politicians, think tanks, and most of all the media have to learn to adapt, spin, twist, and roll with the punches as they fabricate the bullshit. Practice makes perfect. Boston bombing upon analysis was completely staged. It seems like the January 6th shooting was completely staged, but intended to be video recorded so is a much tighter production. And yes, crisis actors are often reused.

4) If they already had control over the media and social media they wouldn't need to censor. They're always testing on crowds and taking pols.

5) Yes, shootings actually happen. But it didn't happen at Sandy Hook. The school was already abandoned due to flood damage. After the fake incident, they demolished it - destroying all evidence for future investigations. Look into the funding of the families with $1 homes. The whole story stinks like a mountain of trash. Dig in.

The main point is that it's easier to conspire a real shooting than a fake one, and it's not even necessary to fake it.

How many have you done, real or faked? Outrageous claims require outrageous proof. That's a wild leap, and it's a big production.

The murders in Chicago should get as much news coverage. Yet the media wants to focus on this one incident for months and years. Why?

Imagine if [...] JFK never actually got shot...

Why? To what end? Your analogy makes no sense. There's video from two angles - plus countless witnesses - and they contradict the perpetually lying media and government. A better example is how Hitler lived on in Argentina, along with that mountain of evidence - another fascinating deep dive.

Similarly with Sandy Hook, if there is a conspiracy I don't think...

Because you haven't bothered to investigate skeptically. You're just regurgitating what the corporate media tells you to think.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

There no explanation either. All I know is that there is a bunch of weird ass shit that happened, and no explanation. And then they went after Alex jones, who is a journalist. He was just reporting.

It reeks of fake news. Like government forces coverup. Also, Alex jones has been correct so many times. Why is he wrong this time, because the government said so?

I don’t believe dank hook happened the way they said it did. I think sandy hook reeks of false flag operations.

There are real mass shootings, there are mass shootings that are real but they are reported incorrectly, and then there’s sandy hook. I don’t believe it in Sandy hook. And no matter how many times the govnerment tells me I have to believe in it, I won’t.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Yes.

[–]iamonlyoneman 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

The road was blocked by random vehicles but we saw no parents arriving to pick up children? Hmmokay

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (34 children)

Doubts.

[–]RACHEL_THECOW 7 insightful - 4 fun7 insightful - 3 fun8 insightful - 4 fun -  (28 children)

More bullshit, Mr George Carlin.. just fyi, an FBI agent IS NOT going to break down on the stand while testifying.

I have watched videos that clearly show that the people on the Sandy hook shooting were choreographed and we're walking around in circles.

The entire thing was staged and it was a low effort hoax

No children died at Sandy hook.

[–]JasonCarswellPlatinum Foil Fedora 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

Many of the same "dead" children (or all twins), unnamed, showed up as a Sandy Hook survivors choir at the SuperBowl.

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Read your own link about that: https://www.CrisisActorsGuild.com/2018/08/27/did-any-of-the-children-killed-at-sandy-hook-appear-at-super-bowl-xlvii/

You'll find: No they didn't.

[–]JasonCarswellPlatinum Foil Fedora 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I read it. It's interesting. They also omitted a metric fuck tonne. Look deeper. Maybe you can find the answer.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (18 children)

Just because an independent investigation isn't possible in the corrupt cesspool of hypocrisy you call "your" country, doesn't imply I start believing into any of these stories.

I just expressed my doubts. In the official narrative, as well as in the one posted up there.

[–]RACHEL_THECOW 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (16 children)

Fuck off fruitcake

Sandy hook was a cheap sloppy hoax.

[–]chottohen 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (11 children)

Rachel, Rachel, I know George and he knows what did and didn't happen at Sandy hoax. Try to be patient on saidit since this is NOT reddit.

[–]chickenz 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (7 children)

fuck you chottohen.

i know how to fight my own battles.

i am not your fucking kid.

[–]chottohen 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

Mr. Chickenz, my comment had nothing to do with you and I did not and never will defend anything you write on this forum.

[–]chickenz 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

ok, sandy hook was for real. dont sue me. ok?

[–]JasonCarswellPlatinum Foil Fedora 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Were you there? Or are you just repeating what you watched on TV?

Try investigating skeptically. It will surprise you.

[–]chickenz 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

I do not need you to agree with me.

Sandy hook was a hoax.

[–]RACHEL_THECOW 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

hey, did i say fuck you? i dont give a fuck what that motherfucker says or doesnt say.

FUCK THE FUCK YOU AND SHUT YOU FCUKING MOTHH.

FUCK OFF FUCK OFF

SANDY HOOK WAS AN OBVIOUS HOAX.

SANDY HOOK WAS AN OBVIOUS HOAX.

SANDY HOOK WAS AN OBVIOUS HOAX.

SANDY HOOK WAS AN OBVIOUS HOAX.

SANDY HOOK WAS AN OBVIOUS HOAX.

SANDY HOOK WAS AN OBVIOUS HOAX.

SANDY HOOK WAS AN OBVIOUS HOAX.

SANDY HOOK WAS AN OBVIOUS HOAX.

SANDY HOOK WAS AN OBVIOUS HOAX.

SANDY HOOK WAS AN OBVIOUS HOAX.

SANDY HOOK WAS AN OBVIOUS HOAX.

SANDY HOOK WAS AN OBVIOUS HOAX.

SANDY HOOK WAS AN OBVIOUS HOAX.

SANDY HOOK WAS AN OBVIOUS HOAX.

SANDY HOOK WAS AN OBVIOUS HOAX.

SANDY HOOK WAS AN OBVIOUS HOAX.

[–]SeethingPeasant 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

You do realize all 3 of you are saying the same thing right? All of you are saying it was a hoax.

[–]chottohen 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You obviously scored quite low on reading skills since you are unable to even discern that people are trying to agree with you.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Still doubts. Going ad persona is about as effective as you were writing down: "I was thrown out of school for doing drugs".

Maybe this made you this vulnerable to actually believe half-baked stories from either side.

[–]JasonCarswellPlatinum Foil Fedora 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

To those who have actually looked into it, the more you bloviate without investigating, the more ignorant you appear.

Sandy Hook has as many holes in it as 9/11, Boston bombing, OKC bombing, etc etc etc.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I don't actually argue that !

I just don't know what to believe.

[–]JasonCarswellPlatinum Foil Fedora 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Then take a look. Stop opining on it until you actually know about it.

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

No children died at Sandy hook.

Except the 20 who were shot and killed on December 14, 2012.

[–]JasonCarswellPlatinum Foil Fedora 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

That link is not proof.

[–]grassfed 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

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    [–]JasonCarswellPlatinum Foil Fedora 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

    All you have to do is dig a bit.
    Once you investigate a little, you can never unlearn that it's a major scam.

    In another comment here I provided a good start with 4 links.

    [–]chickenz 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

    alex jones was funny in court... when he said "it was real", he would turn and look at the camera with a "wink, wink"...

    i watch a video that showed actors creating the scene where people are rushiing in and out of the school.. they showed these people walking around in circles.. they also showed the video from a police car that had timestamps on it.. at the time when there should have been frantic children running around in the parkng lot, the parking lot was empty and calm.

    the one website where i think that i watched these videos was http://banned.video , which is where a lot of alex jones videos are posted... but i dont see the videos that were critical about the sandy hook hoax.

    [–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    He's making a lot more money from his show than he's threatened with judgements against him for making the lives of the parents hell.

    I don't know how much he makes by sending nude pictures of his wife to Roger Stone.

    [–]JasonCarswellPlatinum Foil Fedora 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

    making the lives of the parents hell.

    Proof? More like TV talking point bullshit.

    Yes, Roger Stone is human feces. He meddles in Canadian politics, here in Windsor too.

    [–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

    Alex Jones doesn't believe what he said about sandy hook, as he said in court. If he's right, then he was wrong.

    If the family of each one only had 10 close friends, relatives and neighbors that would have been 5000 people with first hand knowledge so when all the hoax theory began, there should have been thousands of people saying they know it really happened because their bother's kids were at that school or because their dad was one of the fireman or the cops or their cousin or their neighbor had kids at the school etc.

    The families and friends had never heard of Alex Jones. They became aware of the hoax theory when people started sending death threats and harassment.

    No one outside the select group of "crisis actors" speaking about it because anyone else involved in staging it would have been instructed not to discuss it.

    They started several organizations.

    https://safeandsoundschools.org/

    https://chooselovemovement.org/

    https://www.sandyhookpromise.org/

    Remington went into bankruptcy protection, after their offer of $33 million was rejected.

    Why would a gun manufacturer perpetrate a hoax?

    [–]JasonCarswellPlatinum Foil Fedora 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

    They became aware of the hoax theory when people started sending death threats and harassment.

    Doubt.

    How's your vax injury doing?

    [–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    It came up in one of the trials.

    He reckoned how can he have defamed people who had received death threats and harassment from his listeners, if they hadn't themselves been aware of the defamation.

    I'm triple vaxed now. All is good.

    [–]JasonCarswellPlatinum Foil Fedora 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

    In a perpetually corrupt matrix of rigged systems, including the justice system, little can be trusted.

    Just because it came up doesn't mean it was proven with any rigor or legitimacy.

    I can claim you made death threats against me. Doesn't make it true. And without the corrupt system backing me there's no way I could sue you and win.

    Get fully vaxed ASAP. You might die or kill Grandma!