What was it like living in an all white nation that wasn't hostile to whites?

submitted by Blackbrownfreestuff from self.debatealtright

I recently re-watched a jew produced movie called Apollo 13. It's a movie set in 1969 through 1970 leading up to a failed space mission where the crew is amazingly brought back to Earth alive. All the characters are white. It's an all white movie about white people doing white people stuff. The heros are white males. Rocketry is especially white. Our best engineer was probably Von Braun, a former nazi SS. It makes sense. This was a white accomplishment and America was still white back then, just 5 years post hart-cellar. It won 2 academy awards, was nominated for 9, losing best picture to another white movie called braveheart.

It would be tough to make this movie today. The white actors in it now hate white men and stand with our jewish overlords and their dark skinned shock troops. The cast would be too white. The story would be too white. I was in elementary school in 1995 when this movie was released. The latest trend is to make movies like moonlight about gay black men. Anyone else have memories of white America?

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[–]paranoid_android3 18 insightful - 2 fun18 insightful - 1 fun19 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

I lived it. Even my high school was 100% White. It was not a myth. I never even saw a fistfight in high school. 2000 White students, 0 Blacks. They took this from you.

A girl in my city could walk alone at night and have zero fear. I never heard of anyone I know being raped. It may have happened but usually people will gossip so if it did it was extremely rare.

Never heard of a murder or gunshot. Everyone had guns but knew very much how to handle them safely.

We now live in a relative Hell. They took this from you.

[–]deAccount 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I'm guessing you're a baby boomer or are in Europe? It's been decades since any cities here in the US haven't been absolutely filled to the brim with non-whites. Hart-Cellar has accelerated white genocide so fast.

[–]paranoid_android3 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

There are still White Flight burbs scattered around the country.

[–]Blackbrownfreestuff[S] 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

A black guy followed my wife home and waited for her at the end of the driveway. I wasn't home. If i was, I'd be news.

[–]ayotollahsinIran 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'm sure your married lol

[–]bug-in-recovery 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Can confirm.

Grew up in a small Midwestern town.

We had two half black kids in total.

Safe, happy, quiet.

I miss it.

[–]kfn 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I live in New Hampshire my town is 97% white and voted 63% for Trump... It's the best place in the world that I could be. Not perfect but nothing on earth is. You could not pay me to leave.

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

97% white is more white than many towns and cities across Western Europe now, even outside of occupied capitals like London and Paris.

[–]asterias 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I won't say it was perfect. It was far from perfect.

However, the influx of "immigrants" just made everything worse. New kinds of crime that were unheard of before, and wages going down thanks to cheap labor. And quality of life in many areas becoming similar to third world countries.

[–]Minedwe 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Movies today are 100% okay with turning characters, who were actual, normal people, into homosexuals or multiculturalists when they weren't or even/especially when they were the exact opposite. This is one big reason I rarely watch modern media because you are hard pressed to find non-propaganda stuff that also happens to be good. What is surprising to me is how recent stuff was based, watching 80s and 90s media there's no limit to the humor and stereotypes that would be met with hissy fits and shitlib rage today even in relatively innocuous stuff, which disappoints me when I remember the disgusting degeneracy pushed on me in the early-mid 2000s when I was a kid (yes, I'm a zoomer.) and how for a while I was completely content believing that drivel.

The saving grace of the modern era is the internet, and I feel the internet is the important last battleground for us, because the "real world" can no longer be relied on to nurture children who are not ZOGbots. The internet, namely "edgy" YouTubers of yesteryear (LeafyisHere, Idubbz, etc) that I watched for entertainment as a preteen are what started my redpilling by seeding a realization of the stupidity and absurdity of feminists. Sargon and BPS more recently, just a couple years ago, are what rocketed me into rapidly becoming what I am today. We cannot let people like them be destroyed, especially over petty drama externally and puritanical gatekeeping in our own movement that tries to distance us from Alt-Lite people. Sure they may be cringe, but at least they are helpful.

[–]Salos10000 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (14 children)

2014 was the definitive year the world went to shit.

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Yup. Somewhere in that 2011-2014 time frame. The colleges were 4-5 years ahead of that though.

[–][deleted] 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I remember people complaining about SJWs on Slashdot in the early 00s.

The cult had probably started already around commiefornia.

By the mid 00s it had metastasized. The aposematic hair, the trigger warnings, the safe spaces, only Whites can be racist, the anti-Nationalist hate, all in my local (non-US) college.

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

It might be because of my age (late 20s) and because I grew up in the UK, but I don't remember SJWs being a thing in the 00s.

I remember the push for gay marriage, and I remember when "normie" conservatives (US Republicans, UK Tories, etc) were against it and "centrists" sitting on the fence, as they always do, saying they support gay rights, like civil partnerships but there was no need to legalise gay marriage. I was a member of teen/gaming orientated forums with political debate subforums, and it was considered a legitimate POV to be anti-gay marriage. Not like now, where the normie conservatives have accepted it and centrists call you "far-right" or "radical" for opposing it.

There was none of the transgender stuff, at least not in mainstream discourse. Race was also pretty much never brought up. The left back then was "colourblind", not overtly anti-white, although I do remember people being excited over Obama being the first black POTUS. I think one of the major reasons the BNP (UK ethnonationalist party) failed was because its arguments about anti-white agenda didn't resonate, it was ahead of its time.

Libertarianism was also growing among people of my generation. The people who were pro-gun and wanted fiscal conservatism, but also social liberalism like drugs and gay marriage to be legalised. Many of them were atheists and liked to take the piss out of Christianity and sometimes Islam.

Then of course there was the 2008 Recession and the rise of Occupy Wall Street. Many people were also opposed to the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, but there was also the rise of the Counter-Jihad stuff.

It seems that the 'SJW' and 'wokeness' became a big thing late into Obama's presidency. Maybe around 2013/2014 I started hearing about the stuff you mention. But even back then, it was mostly confined to things like shitty Tumblr blogs, university campuses and maybe the Huff Post. Not like now where you see the BBC, NYT, Guardian, CNN, etc pushing it.

[–]Blackbrownfreestuff[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

it was considered a legitimate POV to be anti-gay marriage.

Even democrats opposed gay marriage. Obama's 2008 campaign was against gay marriage.

[–]JuliusCaesar225Nationalist + Socialist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It rose with twitter and tumblr. More twitter than tumblr because our whole cultural discourse is now plugged into to twitter and that is how it went mainstream.

[–]AFutureConcern 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

David O. Sacks and Peter Thiel wrote about it in 1998: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0945999763

The blurb could have been written today:

This is a powerful exploration of the debilitating impact that politically-correct “multiculturalism” has had upon higher education and academic freedom in the United States. In the name of diversity, many leading academic and cultural institutions are working to silence dissent and stifle intellectual life. This book exposes the real impact of multiculturalism on the institution most closely identified with the politically correct decline of higher education—Stanford University. Authored by two Stanford graduates, this book is a compelling insider’s tour of a world of speech codes, “dumbed-down” admissions standards and curricula, campus witch hunts, and anti-Western zealotry that masquerades as legitimate scholarly inquiry. Sacks and Thiel use numerous primary sources—the Stanford Daily, class readings, official university publications—to reveal a pattern of politicized classes, housing, budget priorities, and more. They trace the connections between such disparate trends as political correctness, the gender wars, Generation X nihilism, and culture wars, showing how these have played a role in shaping multiculturalism at institutions like Stanford. The authors convincingly show that multiculturalism is not about learning more; it is actually about learning less. They end their comprehensive study by detailing the changes necessary to reverse the tragic disintegration of American universities and restore true academic excellence.

[–]Blackbrownfreestuff[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

No, it started in 2012 with Trayvon as a solution to OWS.

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Yeah that was definitely a key event. I think after Obama got re-elected the cultural controllers decided they could start ratcheting this up. Occupy wallstreet (also in 2012) scared them a bit. They want race tension not class tension.

[–]Blackbrownfreestuff[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Exactly what happened, OWS had activists talking about the top 1%, so they just switched it to whitey.

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I remember the shooting of Michael Brown in Missouri being a much bigger deal because he was killed by a police officer (who actually was white). I think that was 2014? That's when I first heard of BLM. There were riots after the police officer was acquitted.

[–]Blackbrownfreestuff[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That was the next big media blitz after treyvon. They got us warmed with treyvon first.

[–]paranoid_android3 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

No, it's been going on since at least 1930's when the Frankfurt School moved to Columbia. US universities were poz stations for many decades.

[–]ChancellorMershekel 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

The problem with trying to periodize all this stuff (i.e. asking 'when did everything go off the rails?', bifurcating time into 'normal time' and 'abnormal' or 'post-normal' time) is that the more one looks into history, the further back one can see the signs. You know someone hasn't looked at history if they think that the rot only started somewhere as late as post-WWII or the 1960s. All I can say is that 'normal' and 'abnormal' are two ends of a spectrum and that the further you look ahead in time, the more all things seem to shift towards abnormality.

Personally, I'd trace it back to Hobbes being to the Left of Filmer, Locke being to the Left of Hobbes, etc. Fast forward to the modern academics (especially those like Adorno, Marcuse, C. Wright Mills, etc.) and they're many of the ones that people can fairly point to as having spearheaded the decline in their respective times and places.

[–]paranoid_android3 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yes, you are right. In fact, if you read Genesis it's all there. Certainly by Exodus.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Book_of_Genesis_(comics)

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Don't think I ever lived it. Maybe the closest I got was visiting the big city for the first time, seeing all the beautiful statues and the parks. Guess those might be torn down now. I'd thought they only had stuff like that in Europe. I was awe-struck.

[–]thunder-cricket 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Do you think hating white power equals hating white men?

[–]72ndGender 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Safe white neighborhoods aren't the same thing as white power. Cities and neighborhoods all across America used to be great places to live. A family didn't have to be wealthy to escape the violence of black people and illegal immigrants. Now, white flight has to stay in constant motion just to not be in an absolute shithole.

[–]paranoid_android3 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

A family didn't have to be wealthy to escape the violence of black people and illegal immigrants

This. Poorer Whites didn't use to have to buy into a "good school district" to avoid crime and disruptive nogs in school.