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[–]AFutureConcern 20 insightful - 1 fun20 insightful - 0 fun21 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

100%. If your average person knew how reasonable our ideas were they'd suddenly wonder what the media has been endlessly complaining about.

I myself once believed there was some "hateful" beyond; I thought I took a more reasonable position than those "extremists". Turns out there is no such thing. The "extremists" really are quite nice and reasonable and don't hate anyone. They really don't want people finding that out.

[–][deleted] 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Afro-Americans get an ethno-state to rule for themselves, the Middle East gets left alone with no more foreign interference, no more exploitative imperialism by Western governments, no more brain drain of talent from less-developed nations, indigenous peoples get more sovereignty and some are even willing to give Mexicans part of "Aztlan. All they have to do is allow ethnically European nations self-governance and self-preservation.

Highly reasonable to me.

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 8 insightful - 3 fun8 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

You're not asking the important questions. What do the Jews get out of that arrangement?

[–]thunder-cricket 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Who are they supposed to meet with to strike these bargains? You? This forum? Seems like western governments' imperialism is moving full swing ahead, there's nothing this little white power nerd club can do to stop it (as if you really wanted to... look at where your laptop and cell phone come from). And the wretched of the earth should keep continuing their swinging. You're not at the negotiating table.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Ye, Third Position is not at the negotiating table. What's your point?

"little white power nerd club" lol ok

[–]bug-in-recovery 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The way you can tell this is true, is just to bring them up normally in conversation or attribute them to a politician they like.

They'll suddenly think they're GREAT ideas.

[–]thunder-cricket 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

The average person who gives a shit about you to learn about your ideas, would mostly find you a combination of disturbing, ridiculous and offense. You guys actually look at the world we live in with white people being a small fraction and controlling most of the wealth, and think we are the ones under threat. It would be laughable if it wasn't so depressing and devoid of reality.

[–]AFutureConcern 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

White people have wealth, power and control, it is true. But what do they do with that power? The white men in charge of the largest corporations in the world do not have white interests at heart. They are internationalists, and liberals, who want to homogenize the whole world. They don't care that European culture is being erased; in fact they actively push for "diversity". The only reason European heritage survives at all is because of ingrained cultural biases of those men, which the Critical Race Theorists in charge of the Black Lives Matter movement (a movement popular with those wealthy white men) seek to erase through explicit racially-biased laws and rules.

Furthermore, people care about fairness. If white people are being treated unfairly, why does it matter that they have more wealth than other groups? I think most people other than communists still care when a wealthy man is treated unfairly. Look at how whites are treated in the media - massive under-reporting of white victims, for example, and constantly attacked for unproven assumptions that white "racism" must be the cause of disparities. It is very clear that if I, as a white man, were to apply for a job or an education disguised as a black man, I would get preferential treatment thanks to the literally millions of "diversity" initiatives that privilege non-whites over whites.

Follow the trajectory forward. With so many whites having an out-group bias, and with the white population shrinking while the non-white population grows, what will happen to whites in the future? They will have less relative power and control than they do now. That is not going to be good for our interests. But we get called "conspiracy theorists" for pointing out this Great Replacement.

[–]UserAetheria 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

This is a good point. Its also why they're happy to leave /r/beholdthemasterrace up but ban things like /r/whitebeauty. They want people to think we LOOK like losers when its actually the opposite. Ever since I became a white nationalist I've cleaned myself up and regularly go to the gym and strive to constantly improve myself. I was at my lowest point when I was an apolitical egalitarian. Being exposed to our ideas truly empowers an individual and they're scared of that.

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Good to hear. Keep it up.

[–]antireddit 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

Well they even banned the_donald, one of the most popular and heavily modded subs on reddit, so that should tell you what their agenda is. The neoliberal elite are waging a war on working class whites, and we were one of the few subs left that routinely pointed this out.

As for the claim we engaged in hate speech. Have you seen some of the incitement, hatred of whites and calls for violence that became routine on reddit in the month before our banning? On subs like liberalgunowners you have comments openly calling for the murder of "fascists" and "nazis", and we all know their definition of both is pretty loose. This was during a time we were seeing real left wing violence being dished out nationwide.

Reddit is now one of the leading anti white propaganda voices in existence. Their updated rules have actually enshrined this anti white bias and political bias in their sitewide rules, while making any criticism of a privileged group like Jews completely forbidden, and grounds for you to be openly threatened with murder as well as banned.

[–]deAccount 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Reddit is very bad with their censorship indeed, but twitter is even worse for whites in general, whether right wing or not. If you piss off the black twitter mob, inadvertently or not, they'll all act as one cohesive group which does everything possible to ruin the life of their victim (doxxing, finding their loved ones/employees/address). I remain firm that a worse social media website doesn't exist.

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    [–]IRONICALLY_A_NAZI 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    You can be anonymous on twitter. It is effective. Right wing twitter is pretty based, people follow back.

    Also everyone get on Telegram. You can use a burner google voice number or any other app for the required "phone number".

    [–]antireddit 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    I agree, twitter is an inherently toxic media platform that's driving a lot of this hysteria. Oddly its less censor and ban happy than all the other social media platforms, so unlike reddit you can still find some voices of reason there, but that too will likely change once the likes of Paul Singer finish taking it over.

    [–][deleted] 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    Yes, they are getting more vocal about their anti-white hatred.

    On subs like liberalgunowners you have comments openly calling for the murder of "fascists" and "nazis", and we all know their definition of both is pretty loose. This was during a time we were seeing real left wing violence being dished out nationwide.

    I don't think this can be emphasised enough.

    Lots of people on the right tend to ridicule the left and groups like Antifa as loud-mouthed anti-gun pussies and soyboys. This isn't fully true. While many just are LARPing, others are 100% serious when they say they will commit violence against us, and in the States, they will absolutely use firearms and in doing so they will be supported by the establishment. After all, they view themselves as heirs to the legacy of the "anti-fascists" in the International Brigades who volunteered to fight against Franco in the Spanish Civil War, the Union soldiers who defeated the CSA to end slavery in the American Civil War and of course the Allies who defeated Nazi Germany.

    For all the talk about us dehumanising others, they have dehumanised us into the worst imaginable caricatures. Hollywood and entertainment media have upped the ante on anti-white torture/murder porn like Django Unchained, Hunters and Cracka.

    I don't live in the US, but if I did, I would buy a firearm and be armed as often as reasonably possible, I wouldn't take chances on these pieces of shit, they are totally unreasonable. You never know when you might become the victim of anti-white violence, especially if your views are known about. It is a dangerous time to be doxxed, for example.

    [–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    It's very telling that they banned r/shitneoconssay. There was no race realism. No ethnostate talk. No jogger memes. No crypto fascism. Nothing. In fact all the sub did was expose 'conservativism' which if reddit was a left wing sub you'd think they'd support.

    Reddit is now one of the leading anti white propaganda voices in existence.

    Agreed. It's not a scary echo chamber of anti whiteness now. I hope that some of the smarter more open minded liberals (they do exist) realize this and seek other places. I've noticed that there are a group of liberals that get board when they don't have conservatives to counter them. Maybe people on reddit will realize how boring echo chambers can be.

    Before DAR got banned there were some dissident users creating threads and discussions withing their profiles. I wonder if that's a way we can't sneak back on reddit. It's much harder for AHS sub to trace that and we can use it as a rallying point to jump into discussions on subs. I'm done with trying to make subs on reddit but I wouldn't mind having a small team of stalwarts to do some guerrilla redpilling/ wrong think raids with me.

    [–]antireddit 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Shitneoconssay didnt have much in the way of moderation, which u need on a sub like that, but consumeproduct was fairly strictly controlled and they were still banned. Basically anyone that upset jewish sensibilities got the axe, which is the typical pattern on reddit and big tech as a whole. They are the primary drivers of censorship.

    [–]IRONICALLY_A_NAZI 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    I would counter-signal shitneoconssay not being crypto fashy. I posted on there a lot and never got censored/banned.

    The sentiment of the main userbase is cringe and gay though.

    [–][deleted] 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

    Absolutely.

    There is an organisation in the UK called Hope Not Hate, which is basically like the ADL/SPLC (and funded by the same mysterious creatures), they openly admit they push for deplatforming because it "works" in reducing exposure to our ideas.

    When we have no voice, they can just strawman us or just outright lie without consequence, many of them have no idea what we believe in. I mean, just read the Politics sub on Reddit, where they bitch about Trump 24/7 and act as if he's literally a fascist and white supremacist. Someone on there listed all the evil 'Alt-Right' people who support Trump, and it included people who have been off the Trump Train for years now, like Richard Spencer.

    I'm not saying we'd be winning right now if there was no censorship, but we would definitely be close to the mainstream and probably nearing the influence Alt-Liters/CivNats have. Admittedly Charlottesville did set us back, though.

    [–][deleted] 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    Charlottesville isn't as clear cut as the media makes out. The driver was attacked by a mob. The person that died wasn't even hit by him, and she was a landwhale that died of a heart attack. The black guy that hit the BLM protestors the other day was more at fault, and will probably get let off.

    [–]PRSanon 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Not as clear cut, but only we know that. It's extremely difficult to find any videos or even info on the court case, it's all just the media appalled at this genocidal KKK Nazi. Doesn't matter much what actually happened, what matters is what's said about it.

    [–]IRONICALLY_A_NAZI 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    For anyone with a brain all Charlottesville did was expose that they will protect those that want to kill us, lie about us, and sentence someone to 419 years for a car accident that has happened under similar circumstances 30 times in the past 2 months.

    We will never be mainstream, we are dissidents. It is the nature of being dissident. The only way to become mainstream is to hold power.

    T minus 6 weeks until the revival of the C-ville civil case, and then when they prove there was a "conspiracy" to "commit racial violence" (despite having literally 0 evidence) then the state of things today will look like paradise.

    [–]yesofcoursenaturally 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

    More than once on reddit and elsewhere, I've had conversations like this:

    X: Yesofcoursenaturally is a nazi, he HATES POC and wants to gas them all.

    Me: Nope. I'm a slav, so nazism makes little sense for me. And I don't hate POC. I just think nations function better homogeneously. I'm in favor of majority black, asian, etc nations.

    X: You're LYING. You hate them and want to kill them. Admit it!

    Me: No, I actually want everyone to prosper. Whites, black, asians. I actually intensely dislike white leftists way more than black right-wingers. If they were both drowning I'd rescue the black.

    X: You want to KILL THEM ALL.

    Me: No, I just said...

    X: Admit it! ADMIT! For fuck's sake admit it, I would RESPECT you if you just SAID it! I KNOW you think it!

    Me: Not at all what I think. You sure you don't just need me to be a secret monster to make yourself feel better?

    Like, no shit, the most raw visceral hatred I've ever gotten has come from me wishing other people well. My most controversial views - slavery, at the time, was no great scandal where blacks were concerned, because blacks were in such a state of savagery that the comparatively brief time under Western rule was more boon than curse - just makes people stop talking to me. But if I give my honest views AND say that nevertheless I'd like to see blacks succeed (I just have zero responsibility for making that happen) and talking about aspects of, say... Ethiopian history/culture I think is admirable, they lose their goddamn minds.

    [–]bug-in-recovery 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

    X: You're LYING. You hate them and want to kill them. Admit it!

    Ha this reminds me of something from a Jared Taylor interview.

    He spoke about talking with a liberal about average intelligence difference.

    The liberal got super angry and exclaimed:

    Well if that's true, I guess we'll just have to kill them all huh!?!?

    Like bruh, calm down, no one is saying this.

    [–]yesofcoursenaturally 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

    Yeah. I'm very sure it's intentional on their part. The more you say 'No, you're wrong', the more evidence you provide that no you're not out for genocide, the angrier they get. It's not about what you actually are saying, it's about what they need you to be saying to feel better or justified.

    [–]bug-in-recovery 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    It's not about what you actually are saying

    And even beyond this, it's not about truth at all.

    This is why 13/50 is pointless, no shitlib will ever be convinced of anything by it.

    Their beliefs are not based on facts or truth.

    You can't be reasoned out of something you were never reasoned into to begin with.

    [–]yesofcoursenaturally 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    I use 13/50 as a conversation ender with leftists, not a dialog point. When someone tells me about white supremacy and the horrors of cops killing unarmed blacks, 13/50 is my reply. They know what it means, and they won't engage it. Which is fine: I don't want to talk to diehard leftists.

    Other people are honestly unaware of facts like that, and it may help them. Middle of the road sorts, conservative normies. It's easy to forget that outside of subs like this, those stats are practically unheard of. Leftists get tongue-tied when they try to explain how being poor is why blacks commit so many more rapes.

    [–]IRONICALLY_A_NAZI 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    Slavs can be 3rd position. Italy was different from Germany was different from Mosley's English Fascism.

    Third position is natural law, it will mold to fit your society and culture. Stop getting so hung up on off handed remarks by Uncle.

    Also never debate them on their grounds. Just say you're pro white, they're anti-white. Don't try and grovel with fake equality.

    [–]yesofcoursenaturally 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Stop getting so hung up on off handed remarks by Uncle.

    Who's hung up? I'm just honest. I'm sure slavs can be third position, but not all third positionists are nazis. No matter how similar they are.

    Don't try and grovel with fake equality.

    I never do - nothing I described was groveling. I'm just direct in what I believe, and I think every people should have their own nation. I do not lament the tremendous blackness of Ghana, or how utterly non-white Japan is. I don't think anyone on the right or far right does.

    [–]72ndGender 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    Reminds me of the Voat meme about federal agents lurking on Voat getting turned into Nazis. That's how it works though. Someone who is exposed to truth and reasonable people end up learning something. The rulers have to make sure that doesn't happen. It's on us to make sure to properly build alternative environments to insure free speech.

    [–]Nombre27 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Someone who is exposed to truth and reasonable people end up learning something.

    The mind craves order and knows truth when it receives it. It's just a matter of making that transition as painless as possible, i.e. mitigate the incoming cognitive dissonance.

    [–]paranoid_android3 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    Yes, but it's Jews, period.

    David Duke is portrayed as Satan because he calmly and convincingly criticizes Jews. Even Kevin MacDonald, a cold academic used to appear on the David Duke show weekly because he said "I basically agree with everything he says".

    The TV David Duke is the inverse of the TV Bill Cosby and OJ Simpson.

    [–]antireddit 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Its funny. I grew up thinking Duke was the antichrist. I mean he was the personification of evil. Yet anytime i heard him speak or give an interview he was completely reasonable. Hes basically just a j-woke version of Jared Taylor. If anything hes a lot more conciliatory towards blacks than Taylor is.

    The demonic image of him was completely manufactured by Jews. Taylor probably took notice and thats why he never mentions them.

    [–]Tarrock 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    If you were wrong, they wouldn't need to censor you.

    [–]brightlightbellend 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    It's not even about you lot, it's just an easy to justify continuation of a trend. They're starting to go after left-wing wrong think &that's only going to pick up pace.

    The intent is to narrow down debate to an incredibly narrowly centre-right economics & deeply authoritarian window.

    [–]Robin 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    https://wikispooks.com/wiki/Hate_speech “If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.” On their platform, you don't have it!

    [–]pimpdaddy_69 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    I saw Keith Woods's video on the myth of fascism being "capitalism in decay". The video and the comments highlight the funny reality of fascism defeating communism intellectually and in appeal to the workers of Italy and how the communists were so "butthurt" by it that they created that myth and started calling all of their enemies fascists

    They CANNOT stand defeat and must censor us because they know they lost before and can lose again.

    [–]IRONICALLY_A_NAZI 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Keith Woods is a legend of our time, that video was great. I thought I fully understood Third Positionism, but seeing in that video that it is the True Socialism, with class cooperation, not warfare, Nationhood not Universalism, it truly is the only way Socialism can logically work.