"If we ever want to reclaim power, we must create truth that is discontinuous with humanitarianism."

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[–]DoubleReverse 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (35 children)

we must create truth

That's called a lie

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (30 children)

No, he means you should reject the shitlib moral frame. Shitlibs only want destroy western civilization, so you oppose the ideology of shitlibs to save western civilization. He probably should have just mentioned nationalism and third position philosophy as viable solutions to oppose shitlib values but then he couldn't spend pages of tweets pontificating about the nature of power.

[–]DoubleReverse 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (29 children)

Of course you guys consider humanitarianism a liberal principle. Good luck getting humans to reject that one. You're literally selling misanthropy.

Shitlibs only want destroy western civilization, so you oppose the ideology of shitlibs to save western civilization.

This mindset is why the Republicans manipulate you guys so easily.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (28 children)

Humanitarianism is evil because it believes different human groups are universal and interchangeable. It actually dehumanizes people because it erodes the unique characteristics of different ethnic groups and their ability to reach high culture. Instead of allowing groups to live peacefully without the influence of foreigners it seeks to retard the progress of all human ethnic groups and force them to give up their core values in exchange for a nihilist world view of hyper consumerism and celebrity worship. American pop culture is what humanism brings to the world, a disgusting and depraved culture that darkens the human soul by appealing to basic instincts like violence, sexual titillation and avarice.

Any ideology that seeks to universalize the human experience shows a lack of empathy of different human groups. This instinct to project our beliefs onto other groups is what led Whites to oppressing other groups unintentionally through cultural colonialism and Christian missionary programs. Instead of acknowledging their differences and letting them live, they either destroyed or retarded their cultural revolution by superimposing white standards onto non-white ethnic groups. Giving them technology they can't maintain has caused the pollution of rivers and oceans. Believing Blacks could met White standards has costed trillions of dollars in the United States, a complete waste of resources.

This mindset is why the Republicans manipulate you guys so easily.

Republicans are liberals that believe in the same narratives as shitlibs. If you support Republicans, you basically want what shitlibs want but want to wait five years before agreeing with them. No honest nationalist could ever support Republicans in the current political climate.

[–]DoubleReverse 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (27 children)

The things you describe have nothing to do with humanitarianism. What you're actually upset about is globalization, which is more a result of free-market capitalism meeting modern technology than it is of human compassion.

No honest nationalist could ever support Republicans in the current political climate.

I didn't say you support Republicans. You guys are generally working class people who would benefit most from liberal government, but you vote either for Republicans or not at all because they have you so caught up in the idea that civil liberties for people who are not straight white males actually victimize white people.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (26 children)

The things you describe have nothing to do with humanitarianism. What you're actually upset about is globalization, which is more a result of free-market capitalism meeting modern technology than it is of human compassion.

The definition of common human well being is integral to the meaning of humanitarianism. If it was as simple as helping people experiencing a natural disaster it would probably not be seen as controversial. The actual reality is that cultural and ideological presuppositions are what define what humanitarianism entails. For Christianity, converting as many Christians as possible is the logical outcome of the religion because it advocates the spreading of the religion and the temporal world is meaningless when the two eternal outcomes are heaven or hell. The logical outcome of Christianity is colonialism because saving the maximum number of souls can be considered a moral good.

Liberal capitalism has redefined the meaning of humanitarianism because the ideological presuppositions of capitalism sees furthering economic growth and consumption of products in exchange for capital as the highest moral good. This motivates the development of Africa because the increased amount of future consumers furthers economic growth and the purchase of raw materials can create more consumer products that can be exchanged for capital. The long term consequences like over population is irrelevant because capitalism also wants to get rid of national borders and nation states because they hamper the flow of capital and profit margins.

I didn't say you support Republicans. You guys are generally working class people who would benefit most from liberal government, but you vote either for Republicans or not at all because they have you so caught up in the idea that civil liberties for people who are not straight white males actually victimize white people.

Can you explain how affirmative action, diversity quotas and demonizing whites helps the white working class? Taking the wealth of white people and giving it to free riding non-whites does not help the white working class. Justify non-whites victimizing innocent white people does not further the needs of the white working class. They might be taken for a ride for voting for Republicans, but it is understandable why they are considered the better option in the current political climate. Nobody likes being called evil, who knew.

[–]DoubleReverse 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (25 children)

The actual reality is that cultural and ideological presuppositions are what define what humanitarianism entails.

Which means that blaming globalization on humanitarianism is like blaming crime on desire.

Can you explain how affirmative action, diversity quotas and demonizing whites helps the white working class?

This is what I'm talking about. You can't even tell the difference between being told not to victimize other people and being victimized yourself. Nobody but the alt right suffers for not being allowed to persecute other people. By predicating your own identity on racism you've cast yourself into a pointless conflict that can only be "won" through suffering. We could have social programs to keep poor people off the streets, fight the heroin epidemic, properly fund the school system, we could have government accountability to ensure a properly functioning democracy with working checks and balances, but you reject all that because the bloated parasites on Wall Street convinced you it's more important that you be allowed to treat black people like garbage and fed you some idiotic strawmen to froth over. Honestly, it's pathetic.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (24 children)

This is what I'm talking about. You can't even tell the difference between being told not to victimize other people and being victimized yourself. Nobody but the alt right suffers for not being allowed to persecute other people. By predicating your own identity on racism you've cast yourself into a pointless conflict that can only be "won" through suffering.

Forcing a native population to take in foreigners is a invasion. They have homes to go back to while there are no places for whites to run to when their homes and countries are destroyed by invaders

[–]DoubleReverse 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (23 children)

Nobody forced anything other than forcing you to not be a criminal.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (22 children)

Nobody is forcing non-whites to be violent when their citizenship is removed and they are deported.

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    [–]DoubleReverse 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    What is truth? Can different truths concerning the same object exist?

    Assuming the material world is objective, there cannot be two contradictory truths. Our moral codes are based on our opinion of how things should be, not any objective truth.

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      [–]DoubleReverse 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      So, do you agree, that humanitarianism is also just an "opinion of how things should be, not any objective truth"?

      That is how morality works, but just because our well-being isn't objectively beneficial to the universe doesn't mean it's meaningless.

      Who of those guys tells the truth?

      Multiple statements can be true, but truths can never contradict each each other.