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[–][deleted] 26 insightful - 3 fun26 insightful - 2 fun27 insightful - 3 fun -  (15 children)

Stop gatekeeping. I've seen a lot of these type of posts over the past week, little personal manifestos about how a poster thinks other posters should behave to make saidit a social media utopia. Just be the change you want to see and stop trying to force others to tow the line.

[–]DisgustResponse 9 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

C'mon bruh, you should know better that holding collective standards is a reasonable expectation for any social group. "Gatekeeping" is cringe.

[–]bobbobbybob 9 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

gatekeeping is a good thing

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

rarely.

[–]bobbobbybob 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

trans people used to have gatekeepers.... back when it was less insane

[–]Antifa 3 insightful - 7 fun3 insightful - 6 fun4 insightful - 7 fun -  (0 children)

Absolutely.

How to implement my personal ideology for this website.

By OP - age 7

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

Just be the change you want to see

I'm on it.

little personal manifestos about how a poster thinks other posters should behave to make saidit a social media utopia

Nothing I've said is utopian and this isn't a manifesto. I want people to have a firm grasp of reality and be rational adults. Debate and discussion are welcomed here and it is part of how we figure out a better future.

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    [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

    I don't know what that means. Nothing is going to hurt my feelings, my post was just suggestions so that when our content gets to s/all, the other ousted redditors can see that we're not genocidal monsters.

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      [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

      Why? Because these are shortcuts that save you from having to think for yourself.

      I'm with you here, that's certainly fair. I guess what I'm trying to say is that I don't want s/debatealtright completely unchecked- once you take the brakes off of your institutional mistrust, it can spiral into unhinged conspiracies that are not in touch with reality. Where that line is drawn is subjective and you're right; that's hard for us to come to agreement on.

      But your counterpoint here would be if we're too aggressive with dismissing "conspiracies" then we might miss something seemingly crazy that is actually true, like Mossad running international assassinations and honeypot schemes. Sounds too crazy to be true, but here we are hence we should be careful with dismissal of "optics".

      I was trying to be as diplomatic and reasonable as possible with the OP but obviously there could be tweaks and disagreements on the particulars.

      [–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      once you take the brakes off of your institutional mistrust, it can spiral into unhinged conspiracies that are not in touch with reality.

      Some 'unhinged conspiracies not in touch with reality' are actually grounded in reality and can be proven with sources. We are living in a matrix of lies and all major institutions of the west that european people rely on to interpret their reality (academia, media, church, government, business) are compromised by a group of psychopaths. 'That's a cringey conspiracy' is not a refutation. You must actively engage the thesis and provide counterfactuals or you're just tone policing.

      [–]bald-janitor 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

      Nigger

      [–]DoubleReverse 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

      What is ethnonationalism but racial gatekeeping?

      [–]MakeAOCBartendAgain 17 insightful - 6 fun17 insightful - 5 fun18 insightful - 6 fun -  (25 children)

      2) Distance yourself from Republicans.

      So be just like reddit then. fuck that. It's more maniacal to be pro AOC than a Republican.
      But reddit went to hell and became an angry, immature leftwing liberal echo-chamber precisely because they ran off the other side. If your side is right in a debate, it should be easy - and civil - enough to prove that in a decent fashion.
      Yes, ignore the Nazis and increasing # of anti Semites but I'd suggest the same for any BLM/antifa types too. Reparations is an asinine idea. I'm pro environment, pro fiscal conservatism, not a fan of our current foreign policy, not a fan of open-borders illegal immigration, and support a nationalized healthcare plan better than what we have now.
      No, I didn't vote for Trump.

      [–]EuropeanAwakening 20 insightful - 3 fun20 insightful - 2 fun21 insightful - 3 fun -  (6 children)

      No. We are not going to stop being third positionists or criticizing Jews, you shill fuck.

      [–]MakeAOCBartendAgain 2 insightful - 4 fun2 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 4 fun -  (4 children)

      not a shill, just tired of lame excuses from dipshit losers in life like you.

      [–]EuropeanAwakening 13 insightful - 2 fun13 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

      Lol. Ok. Jew shill. Your job is to squelch discussion on Jews and Third Positionism and inject your gay civnat cuckservatism. Fuck off back to reddit.

      Why would you come to a subreddit of an ideology which has a central pillar in understanding Jews and tell us to stop criticizing Jews? Because you're a shill.

      [–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      Your job is to squelch discussion on Jews and Third Positionism and inject your gay civnat cuckservatism. Fuck off back to reddit.

      It won't work on this sub.

      [–]MakeAOCBartendAgain 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

      I'm the one saying to welcome all sides of the debate, fucknuts!!! I've had multiple accounts banned from suck-ass reddit because I don't suck liberal cock, like you do.

      You're the one absolutely terrified of the "evil Jew"! Jesus, go outside and play with your friends. You're not old enough for the internet.

      [–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      This guy gets it.

      [–][deleted] 13 insightful - 2 fun13 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

      Yes, ignore the Nazis and increasing # of anti Semites

      pro fiscal conservatism

      Cringe and gaypilled

      [–][deleted] 12 insightful - 2 fun12 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 2 fun -  (8 children)

      It's not a binary my friend. You don't have to be one or the other hence the category, "Third Position".

      We don't want to harm anyone, we want a future for our children. That isn't racist, irrational, or toxic. It's normal, and the vast majority of the world lives by the same creeds.

      [–]MakeAOCBartendAgain 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

      As long as people are civil, shutting out one side or the other will make this another reddit echo chamber though.

      I don't know of any Republicans (I'm not one btw. Nor a Dem) who want to harm anyone or who don't want a future for their children too. I agree with your sentiment and desire to not fuck things up though. Plenty of people left reddit for the very reason that it distanced and marginalized opinions not shared by its liberal majority. Let's not let that happen here (again, assuming civility).

      [–]DragonerneJesus is white 8 insightful - 3 fun8 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

      Leftism can't grow here, since it violates the Pyramid of Debate. It will likely mutate into something new and just as toxic .

      [–]Jesus 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

      Leftism means whatever I say it means. Signed a conservatard, not to be mistaken for a conservative.

      [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

      who want to harm anyone or who don't want a future for their children too.

      What would you consider the outsourcing of jobs? When manufacturing of products goes to China a lot of things happen to he EU/US, namely:

      1) Child labor gets promoted

      2) Endemic people lose their livelihood

      3) Environmental regulation gets circumvented

      4) IP and economic leverage gets shifted to other nations- some of which have hostile intent

      5) Power gets consolidated among billionaires/oligarchs which in turn provides kickbacks to politicians

      All of these things affect you and your family and will continue to affect you and your family for generations. But to everyone who voted for NAFTA, it is irrelevant as their children will continue to live in gated communities and get cushy jobs down the line. Again, there is clear and present danger with many leftist programs and positions that by default (especially with current CNN-advocated insurrections taking place right now), have to be sided against with establishment right wingers. It sucks, but that's just politics. That DOES NOT mean that they are the way forward. Inevitably there will be new movements forming that are for making your homeland a safe place to live and they need your full support.

      They are already forming in the EU. They will be coming to Australia and the US soon.

      [–]MakeAOCBartendAgain 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

      NAFTA was signed by Dem Bill Clinton and Orange Man tried to roll it back. He's a dipshit too though.

      I agree with your points. I am not a fan of NAFTA.

      [–]Riva 2 insightful - 4 fun2 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 4 fun -  (2 children)

      You think Republicans are different than you are?

      Grow up.

      [–][deleted] 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

      I know they are different. Republicans will not create a safe future for your descendants.

      [–]Jesus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      Certainly, but democrats will. Our entire corporation is corrupt.

      [–]NaughtyUnicorn 6 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

      2) Distance yourself from Republicans.

      I stopped reading anything that they had to say after that.

      [–]Jesus 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

      No, AOC is a young women who has no political lobbying power. She is a Sephardi crypto-Jew. Which is fine but she had no real money backing her.

      Trump on the other hand does. And he is great friends with the Likudnik terrorists who orchestrated 9/11, killing 3,000 Us citizens, tens of thousands off to war to be killed, babies and innocent women and children murdered, and for what? Because of AOC?

      [–]MakeAOCBartendAgain 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

      Trump hasn't killed 3000 US Citizens nor sent 10,000s+ off to war. That was psychopath Cheney and lackey Bush, both of whom should be prosecuted for war crimes.

      The Clinton-loving media, still pissed about 2016, has made it all but impossible for Trump to do much of anything. I know, I know - "Orange Man Bad!!"....but he's no more racist than that POS, America-hating, terrorist-befriending, white-hating, cop-hating dirtbag Obama.

      [–]Jesus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      That was psychopath Cheney and lackey Bush...

      No, it was scapegoated Bush who was merely a puppet and sent to an elementary school to be as far away as possible to prevent his directory; Cheney in finding life in the neoconservative doctrine but the real perps were the 5th column neocons and Likudnik Jewish terrorists. Lauder, Silverstein, Eisenberg, Lowy, Rabbi Dov Zackhein, Libby, Kauthemir, Goldberg, kristol, Kagan, Netanyahu, Mossad, etc.

      The Bush family wanted to give full-rights to Palestinians. Bush senior witheld aid to Israel and Mossad called for his assassination. This is little known. In reality the neocons and bush worked together after the event but were opposed to each other in many instances.

      As for Trump, he was there that day, shilling the narrative the next day hook line and sinker after he found out his ZioCon friends did it. By being complicit in the coverup and being friends With thr ZioCon perps he is indirectly responsible.

      Trump is a life long democrat was good friends with the Clintons and Jeff Zucker. The media war on Trump is a fraud; perception management meant to control the right.

      [–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      At least Obama's Iran deal was a good thing and he was slightly harder on Israel but still in essence a neocon.

      Trump is just another ZioCon lackey and quite an overt one.

      His shtick is asymmetrical psychological warfare. I wouldn't say this if I didn't know he uses perception management 24/7.

      [–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

      be just like reddit then. fuck that.

      How so? Please explain?

      It's more maniacal to be pro AOC than a Republican.

      I disagree. It may be more radical to support AOC but AOC has no real political leverage as a Sephardi crypto-Jew over her Zionist counterparts in the house and senate of whom outnumber her 9 parts to 10 in their radical extremist "right-wing," neoliberal/neoconservative, revisionist Zionist ideology as a dog and pony show echo chamber of bribe accumulators for their own haughty bellies.

      AOC is more than neutral on Palestine and would surely keep her mouth shut, and has, for political gain and careerism.

      The modern day radical republicans. The Bush's, and the theocratic Chabad cult that backs them and presently ZioCon Trump, whilst also taking foreign policy directives from trotskyite neoconservatives are all the more radical than AOC.

      Hence, voting is treason.

      But reddit went to hell and became an angry, immature leftwing liberal echo-chamber...

      I agree, but I bet half were bots.

      .precisely because they ran off the other side.

      What gauge do you use to determine the other side? Abortion? Transgenderism? Israel? Muslims?

      If your side is right in a debate, it should be easy - and civil - enough to prove that in a decent fashion.

      Also, I agree.

      Yes, ignore the Nazis and increasing # of anti Semites.

      What gauge do you use to determine the other side? Abortion? Transgenderism? Israel? Muslims?

      Most of the so-called Nazis here, none currently young enough to be members of the National Socialist German Workers Party, are in all probability Hasbara Zionists. Zionists happen to be some of if not the most anti-Semitic people on the planet Jew or not. They despise muslims and Arabs so much to the point of using them as scapegoats to start wars that kill nearly a million of them. They are the REAL anti-semites, Jew or non-Jew. Those continually calling out anti-Semitism, it being a misnomer, are mostly non-Semitic.

      but I'd suggest the same for any BLM/antifa types too.

      What if I said the same about Zionists?

      Reparations is an asinine idea.

      It is but tell that to Israel too.

      I'm pro environment, pro fiscal conservatism, not a fan of our current foreign policy, not a fan of open-borders illegal immigration, and support a nationalized healthcare plan better than what we have now.

      All that I agree with you on. Let us hope we do not have another false flag event to destroy some more middle eastern countries for Israel's benefit.

      Welcome to Saidit

      [–]MakeAOCBartendAgain 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

      How so? Please explain?

      Really? I have to explain how censoring the right is a continuation of reddit? Sorry - if you don't see that reddit hates & censors anything right of AOC, I'm not sure what to tell you. Every non-trans sub they've banned is a conservative one. Reddit literally goes to church on Sunday and worships liberalism.

      Hence, voting is treason.

      I don't know about 'treason' but it's definitely a waste of time! I use it as a day off to golf.

      Gauge for the other side

      unlimited open borders, unlimited handouts, hatred of wealth & success, worship of islam, wanting everyone to be gay/trans, etc. liberalism sucks mostly because it's based on feelings rather than fact. It's why libs are so pissed all the time.

      Zionists, Nazis, etc

      I'm full-blown agnostic and am dating a Jew. She hates most of her people because they worship their enemies. She's right - those Jews are fucking morons.

      All that I agree with you on.

      Remember the USS Liberty! Which is tough to do since it's been white-washed from history. Uh oh - BLM says 'white wash' is racist! LMFAO - Fuck BLM - it's a terrorist group.

      [–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      unlimited open borders, unlimited handouts, hatred of wealth & success, worship of islam, wanting everyone to be gay/trans, etc. liberalism sucks mostly because it's based on feelings rather than fact. It's why libs are so pissed all the time.

      Problem is these so-called liberals Obama and Clinton were are far stricter on immigration than Trump, who has let in far more immigrants into the country.

      Clinton was in fact markedly strict on immigration.

      AOC has little drive and no lobby/corporate or Zionist money to back her cause.

      unlimited open borders, unlimited handouts, hatred of wealth & success, worship of islam, wanting everyone to be gay/trans, etc. liberalism sucks mostly because it's based on feelings rather than fact. It's why libs are so pissed all the time.

      The first narrative is a perception management narrative meant to scare you into the arms of the Likudniks and pro-Zionist stooges in congress.

      The 2nd is we already have that and plenty of it is corporate handouts and bailouts by the government. The biggest wealth transfer in history has taken place due to COVID. When nearly 10% of the country own 80% of the wealth we have a serious problem due in part to our credit based permanent public debt based system. Trump the neo-Hamiltonian Latitudinarian contructionist thus despises the constitution for pretending to be the 2nd coming of Hamilton who had all the birtues of a conman as does Trump.

      Liberalism isn't based on feelings. Modern oerception mamgement of the liberalist cause is.

      Liberalism founded the United States.

      I'm full-blown agnostic and am dating a Jew. She hates most of her people because they worship their enemies. She's right - those Jews are fucking morons.

      Whatever dude.

      [–]yayblueberries 15 insightful - 5 fun15 insightful - 4 fun16 insightful - 5 fun -  (5 children)

      I love a lot of conservative viewpoints and politics but every time I start talking about how much I like the environment and how much time I spend in nature, the conservatives in my life have started giving me a look like I'm a dirty hippie ruining everything. And I had a registered Republican who barely knew me who yelled "LIBERAL" just because I was looking at birds. I love how they want me to believe they are totally logical and rational when they think they have to destroy the environment just because they think liberals are the only ones who should love it.

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        [–]DisgustResponse 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

        It's incredibly how much your views can be shaped just by what it is packaged with.

        I think most conservatives are anti-environmentalist just because it somehow got designated as a "right-wing" position, and shares a platform with religious and social conservatism and nationalism.

        [–]goodknight 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

        It is weird because conservativism is really about maintaining how things are or how they used to be and upholding traditions. We need to be sustainable to survive long term.

        [–]MostlyGrocery 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        The environmental apathy from the right is probably the most damning thing even a discussion with a normie could be centered around. It's the most literal example of a people's homeland and birthright, the beauty of nature, yet they sell it out for GDP numbers. It's suicidal at best and psychopathic at worst.

        [–]NaughtyUnicorn 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        I love how they want me to believe they are totally logical and rational when they think they have to destroy the environment just because they think liberals are the only ones who should love it.

        This is the problem that we're having in this country right now. Everyone is choosing sides and it's become so cult like that no one will listen when the opposing side has good ideas. It's destroying everything: the environment, free speech, the advancement of science, the right to protect yourself, the list goes on and on. The two party system has been playing Americans for fools. I'm hopeful that if we all can are gather in a place like Saidit and start listening to each other that this 'us against them' attitude will start to change.

        [–]TruthTeller 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

        2) Distance yourself from Republicans.

        Why would you ever leave reddit then?

        [–][deleted] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        As I explained, politics is not a binary. There is no metric for "left vs right" and not being a Republican does not automatically make you a leftist- it makes you "not a Republican". I'm not telling you who to vote for; you're welcome to pick whomever you perceive to be the lesser of two evils.

        I'm telling you to look for a new political direction and think about the future of your people and country. Do you think where ever it is that you live will be a safe place in 50 years given cultural and demographic changes?

        [–]smokratez 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

        Genocide is abhorrent

        jews are responsible for white genocide

        [–]IThinkEricssonHitUs 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

        We don't have to stupe down to their level.

        [–]smokratez 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

        It's self defense. You are above fighting for your life?

        [–]Salos10000 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (13 children)

        A no slurs rule or bot would be useful.

        [–]Oof_Too_Humid 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

        But someone would be deciding what is a slur and what is not a slur.

        Remember - this last reddit ban was supposedly about removing subs that encouraged "hate speech". Someone decided what "hate speech" is and used that to silence so many.

        [–]Salos10000 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (10 children)

        Ok so the n word or wtback or vermin, 'jogger', kike,sand con,sand ngger, F*ggot, that kinda language has no value and gives our enemy exactly what they want. Only irrational spoilt children who see this movement as a way to act edgy and who have no serious concern for the fight the white race is in use slurs. Think about everything you say and whether it has value or not.

        [–]frodo-baggins 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (8 children)

        Jogger is political though. Ahmaud Arbery was "jogging" and definitely not doing anything illegal...

        [–]Salos10000 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (7 children)

        Well I've seen no evidence he was, his neighbors attest that he did practice jogging, his house was 2 miles away not 12 as some people would say. In the video footage of him entering that under construction house, the owner said nothing was taken. The story of him having a hammer and wearing timberlakes was debunked aswell. He was attacked by the driver in the 3rd car and was basically ambushed and killed. What aggravated me was the forced racism aspect when there was no evidence the attackers were racist until after the video filmer revealed it after arrest. I do think the men were unjustified and should be charged with murder.

        [–]frodo-baggins 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

        He was trespassing on a construction site, then went for Travis's gun. What a great citizen.

        Of course the owner said he Dindu Nuffin- the mobs would have come for him too if he said otherwise.

        [–]Salos10000 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

        He wasn't trespassing, he was looking around the house which many people do to be fair. He went for the gun because his adrenaline was in fight or flight and the fact 2 men were pointing rifles at him and assaulting him made him go for the gun.

        [–]frodo-baggins 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

        He wasn't trespassing, he was just going onto private property that he doesn't own.

        If someone goes for your gun, isn't that legitimate cause for self defense?

        [–]Salos10000 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        He was looking around, most guys do that for just curiosity. The Homeowner said nothing was taken.

        Put yourself in his shoes, he is being chased by 3 men, being rammed by their cars and then they point 2 weapons at him, it was fight or flight.

        [–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

        Serious question. Where do you get your news?

        [–]Salos10000 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

        All over, no one particular spot.

        [–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        Great non answer.

        [–]Jesus 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

        Exactly. Honestly, I sort of see why reddit banned these subs. If they hate Jews and muslims so much why not actually explain why they hate them. All I do is post stuff that exposes corruption and the people invopved.

        If it happens to be Jews, than that doesn't matter to me, and many times it is a certain ideologue of Jews.

        I'm not going to give fuel to those I expose by saying niggerfaggot and kike all day.

        [–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        Honestly, slurs are almost solely used here as an ad Hominem. That would be aort of cool. There is literally no point for slurs, but I wouldn't want to ban that. Instead I would want someone to check people who continually bring down the pyrmaid of debate to ad hominem level. If they reach a certain kara threashold and nearly all of there posts are fallacies from their user creation until that point. Ban them.

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          [–]Jesus 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

          Yup, agreed. Voat was socially functional until Zionist Hasbaras took over and drove it into the grouond by saying niggerfaggot and anti-Semitic crap against Arabs and anti-Judaic stuff against Jews not on a critical thinking basis.

          As if actually posting stuff worthwhile that can be read such as sources concerning the 9/11 Likudnik perps.

          They'd rather use ad hominems. But I know these are Hasbara shills because they call you Kike for trying to reason with them when you are aslo exposing Jewish supremacism and terrorism.

          [–]MarkimusNational Socialist 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

          Saidit isn't too Voatified because those that came here via this purge are at least socially functional.

          Feds and Jews haven't gotten here yet

          I'm seeing some of you shitheads sperging out on s/all and blaming Soros for the phases of the moon.

          Feds and Jews have gotten to the bigger subs though.

          [–]AFutureConcern 3 insightful - 4 fun3 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

          That being said, I'm seeing some of you shitheads sperging out on s/all and blaming Soros for the phases of the moon.

          Wait, it's not him? Well what causes it then!? You can't explain that!

          [–]smokratez 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

          Saidit isn't too Voatified because those that came here via this purge are at least socially functional.

          I see you are functionally retarded. I bet you suck jew dicks.

          [–]Mr9to5 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

          I’m also pleased. I basically skipped most of 2016-2019 because everyone felt like a fedposter. It’s nice to pick things up and see maybe we’re reaching an internal equilibrium where we won’t be in our way so damn much.

          [–]Tom_Bombadil 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

          1) Please get across that you're normal adults that wouldn't even be here if your country had the reasonable resolve to prevent it's population from dropping below ~90% endemic racial homogeneity.

          Most people aren't here because of this.

          Also, the following terms of your discussion amount to censorship.

          People should be able to discuss whatever the want, and discuss it in the context they feel is appropriate.

          Who are you to tell others what they should be for, or against.

          This is a manipulative post.

          [–]Jesus 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

          True, but always sticking to the pyramid of debate which, unfortunately, few of these new members seem to do. I'm not even Jewish and I've been called Kike three times in the past three days.

          [–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

          I'm not even Jewish and I've been called Kike three times in the past three days.

          Just call the person out for deflecting and move on. There are situations where calling someone a Jew is a legit response. I can think of two right off the bat. The first: Jews use pilpul and situational ethics. Which means many of the 'debates' you have with them end up falling into circular reasoning. It's totally fine to accuse someone of using Jewish tactics if they are showing that they are engaging in bad faith debate. Second, the alt right believes that the genetic make-up of who you are has an enormous impact on your life path. It's helpful in debates to know if someone is Jewish because Jews have a revolutionary spirit. Which means many of them become fanatics of the political, ethnic or ideological system the get involved in. This matters when debating. Many in the Jewish community are actively engaged in attempting to set up world wide governance with their ethnic family as the premier caste. Nothing else matters to these types except achieving that goal. Truth doesn't matter. Morality doesn't matter. History doesn't matter. 'Pyramid of debate' doesn't matter. You have the right to know if you're debating a black magic/cabalist/satanists/wordsmith/etc. So, while not all Jews engage in these deceptions it's important to be weary and on guard for members of this group, especially if you are a high trust white person driven by pursuits of beauty and objective truth.

          [–]soundsalad 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

          4) Bankers/Journalists- you now what this is about. Point out double standards, over-representation, and toxic behavior. Do NOT start blaming Brooklyn's financial distract for weather control, flouride in the water, demon summoning, etc. There are very grounded grievances that you can reference instead. Such as a certain Middle Eastern country being an ethnostate that DNA tests for citizenship, or the wave of BLM activists only getting called out for racism when they say certain things.

          What's this about???? The Jews?

          [–]Zodiac_Killer 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

          Soros funds domestic terrorists.

          Niggerfaggot.

          [–]Jesus 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

          Soros is the Zionist Likudnik scapegoat.

          [–]VarangianRasputin 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

          Do NOT start blaming Brooklyn's financial distract for weather control, flouride in the water, demon summoning, etc. There are very grounded grievances that you can reference instead.

          Can we pin that on the banner? I'm not suggesting we drop conspiracy talk, but a firm line needs to be drawn on this. I just want to be able to talk about Jewish over-representation and black crime, and those are being suppressed by the media, without some schizo sperging out about how the Earth is flat.

          [–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

          I just want to be able to talk about Jewish over-representation and black crime, and those are being suppressed by the media, without some schizo sperging out about how the Earth is flat.

          Bingo

          [–]Jesus 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

          Of this:

          niggerfaggot

          kike

          cocksucker

          Etc., did they even read the Pyramid of debate? I'm all but open for debate and controversial material about anything. Its just that niggerfaggot isn't cutting anymore.

          Journal entry::

          Man, I totally broke up with my girlfriend, she was a nice Christain girl but she just wouldn't listen to me about the Rothschild kikes and niggerfaggots. She read like half a book I gave her and gave up, she is in denial. I hate her! I broke up, she just didn't get it.

          Journal entry::

          Sitting at thanksgiving dinner with my family, friends and revaltives I broke out my views on "niggerfaggot" and "the joos". It did not go well. Maybe its my tone?

          [–]ChancellorMershekel 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

          The only thing that I would say is an obvious problem right now is that the subsaidit is on /s/all. This might be one of the reasons for why the two most 'Hot' threads right now are literally bemoaning 'anti-Semitism' or whatever, although some of our people are also easy to find on the default subs, including in the two threads I mentioned. Basically, these threads are full-blown fights between Leftists who want a 'safe space' that simply accepts their subset of contrarian Leftism which the globohomo mainstream Left on Reddit won't accept, and people who have been here longer, who are generally more Right-leaning because the Right was expelled from Reddit earlier:

          https://saidit.net/s/SaidIt/comments/5ia4/i_know_this_site_is_for_free_speech_and_all_but/

          https://saidit.net/s/AskSaidIt/comments/5ia6/whats_with_all_the_antijewish_stuff_on_this_site/ (the top commenter on this hilariously looks like one of our guys)

          So, what's going on? Well, because those fools at Reddit are banning Leftist communities that deviate from the party line on some single particular issue (e.g. feminists who won't accept 'transwomen', queers who think trans are 'erasing' them and other such nonsense) even though they agree on all the rest, they're flooding here. You can see this simply by looking at 'Find New Subs', where a great deal of new subs are obviously the creations of these contrarian Leftists (for example, as of writing this, s/GCmemes is already at 56 members despite being here for 16 hours). In the last two days you also have /s/gc_woc (looks like a fusion of Gender Critical + intersectional, reverse racism [don't talk over wimminz o' colour, ebil wypipo wimminz!]), s/GenderCriticalUSA, s/FemaleDatingStrategy (whose sidebar is blatantly exclusive, stating anything that 'contradicts' their ideology is banned), s/RadicalFeministForum (whose moderator is apparently desperate to have it remain on s/all despite it obviously looking like an exclusive community).

          By contrast, of obvious 'Right' communities I can only see a tiny s/Nationalism over the past two days. It's obvious that what is effectively a microcosm of the Great Replacement is rapidly occurring. If you go back further down the list, the same thing can be observed—radical feminist communities are particularly springing up like weeds, and there are a few other communities like s/BlackGirlDiaries (essentially a black femcel community, i.e. black females who view themselves as 'oppressed' because of their race and biological sex and their self-admitted ugliness [for some inexplicable reason, femcels seem to think that it is unfair that men 'don't value them', even though they believe themselves to be flagrantly unattractive and thus are hardly the kind who should be propagating their genes] simultaneously).

          We can see how Reddit's purity spiraling or salami slicing is driving the same people who are essentially part of the problem (Leftists angry that they're being attacked by their own side, whose view is essentially 'we didn't leave the Left, they left us'), and who essentially want Reddit minus the mainstream globohomo strand that kicked them out. I think the big question for this site is just how these communities are going to coexist in peace, particularly on the s/all subs. Don't worry about the site becoming Voat (how could this happen when almost every recent new user is probably RadFem, detrans or LGBdroptheT?), worry about it becoming Raddle.

          [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

          Yes, despite the complaints I have aired, I think this place is a lot better than many others, precisely because I was able to air them without reprisal from staff. But, communities and staff change. There was a comment from another user that stuck with me (paraphrased):

          to ensure freedom of speech on a site, there needs to be a technological component and ensuring it remains free.

          If individual moderators can do site-wide harm, this or any other site will eventually deteriorate. If a site only remains free until the first time that nepotists manage to get into site staff, then it will forever remain only a question of time for any free site until it goes the same way as any other social media site appears to go. Entryism, collectivism, identitarianism have been the bane of every social media site. This is nothing new at all. All of the current worst offenders, be it Twitter, YouTube, Reddit, have all advertised themselves in the beginning stages as free speech platforms.

          What has changed? Why does freedom always appear to diminish over time? How do some of these crazy people end up calling the shots on those sites?

          Different people will have different answers to those questions. But if a site is explicit in this goal, like drafting a constitution that one can fall back on perhaps, or limits the ability for such a takeover by design (in software) then that might be a better way for a site to endure long term.

          It's also a common pattern of communities on sites to "declare it dead" at the first occasion of frustration. People have a short fuse and little patience, probably justifiably so, after having had their trust abused so many times. Often times, people who say that they oppose censorship really only oppose them being censored. They have no issue with implementing precisely the same sort of censorship that drove them from the previous platform they abandoned out of censorship. The risk of such people ending in positions of influence on a new site spikes after every wave of influx of new users.

          Either way, I think it would serve people well if they reflected on the root causes of the life cycle of such sites. And maybe it is just a natural and expected life cycle of a site, that it runs its course and needs to be replaced eventually. By software industry standards, some sites have been pretty long-lived before they have changed direction. However, there will also always remain a cycle of people fleeing from platform to platform if every platform can be taken over by infiltration of its site staff. I don't think we should have to abandon a site every time a bad actor manages to infiltrate admin ranks. But, that is the cycle we are stuck with for now, because many people seem to lack the introspection how these patterns are carried from site to site, how the seed of that is sown at the inception of every new site. There are definitely people who seem better morally and ethically equipped than others to not abuse the powers vested in their position as moderators or site staff. Most seem to quickly go from near free speech absolutism to being little tyrants, Napoleons in the making, as soon as they receive an inkling of influence or power over others.

          [–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

          It's also a common pattern of communities on sites to "declare it dead" at the first occasion of frustration

          Yeah I saw this on saidit months ago. s/mde and s/cringeanarchy died within weeks of making the transition. People aren't very patient.

          People have a short fuse and little patience, probably justifiably so, after having had their trust abused so many times. Often times, people who say that they oppose censorship really only oppose them being censored

          Totally agree and I almost left saidit when I got the vibe from the admin here that they were going to be just as censorious as reddit but it seems like they adjusted. I didn't want to put in a ton of time just to have the DAR community destroyed again.

          Often times, people who say that they oppose censorship really only oppose them being censored.

          True but some censorship is necessary in the form of modding but that should be at the community level not the site wide level. If you don't like the decisions mods are making you can make your own subs or petition them to change. You can't normally successfully petition admin or easily make your own social media company.

          They have no issue with implementing precisely the same sort of censorship that drove them from the previous platform they abandoned out of censorship

          I pray that doesn't happen here. I really like the reddit layout and don't want to get too far away from it. Voat isn't enough like reddit in feel and look IMHO.

          There are definitely people who seem better morally and ethically equipped than others to not abuse the powers vested in their position as moderators or site staff. Most seem to quickly go from near free speech absolutism to being little tyrants, Napoleons in the making, as soon as they receive an inkling of influence or power over others.

          Unfortunately many who seek out powers are the exact wrong types to wield it.

          [–]Jesus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

          It's also a common pattern of communities on sites to "declare it dead" at the first occasion of frustration

          That's literally a shill tactic in a declassified GCHQ document. To have bots in communities exclaim that this "place is dying", or has been "taking over with shills and I'm done here", or "this place sucks now.", etc.

          The subtleties of government internet trolling.

          [–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

          Interesting. That could have been what some of those posts I saw were.

          [–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

          We'd just need our countries to be a safe home for us.

          A year in three months ago I saw two muslim Arabs, probably Palestinians, fall from the sky with Ak-47's. They've destroyed my yard and have chased away the neighbors! Now they're reproducing at a rate that my bleach white family cannot keep up with. They outnumber us and will certainly impose Sharia law here!

          Please, do something Trump! ......

          I'm surprised that the great bulk of the modern republican view on liberty vs. security leans in the direction of the latter. To appease the Likudnik Jewish terrorists we must deport the muslims, only then our country will be safe; and don't forget the blacks too. Likudnik terrorists? You can stay. Also, we will continue to believe everything our Likudnik masters tell us.

          Maybe these republicans are just ignorant of who the actual bad guys are. Th subversives that are quite cunning at speaking with multiple tongues or shapeshifting their beliefs to aid in the greater goal of their "race".


          Right now, on saidit at least, I'm seeing a lot of users who are quite anti-Semitic in the way they talk about Arabs/muslims. And all whilst these same users want an ethnocracy (Israel has one) they appear, at times, to be espousing the Zionist doctrine or at the very least the Zionist doctrine espouses much of what these users post.

          Think about it.

          [–]IRONICALLY_A_NAZI 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

          This place seems good

          entire concern post telling people to act fucking normal

          Must not seem that good to you then