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[–]SeasideLimbs 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Agreed. By playing along with their ideas rather than defending the facts they are denying, you put them in a position where they have to explain their insanity. For example, how black identity can exist despite black people consisting of a number of distinct, large population in different countries on different continents, and how white identity doesn't exist despite the same being true for white people.

[–]DragonerneJesus is white 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

For example, how black identity can exist despite black people consisting of a number of distinct, large population in different countries on different continents, and how white identity doesn't exist despite the same being true for white people.

Its easy to explain using the leftist doctrine. If you don't know the explanation, then you understand how they view race. It's socially constructed. White is the norm, it's the assumed identity. Black is a socially given identity, the outsider and the oppressed. It's something given to so-called blacks by society.

OP is right. Don't engage and just assume your assertions as true.

[–]yesofcoursenaturally[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

By playing along with their ideas rather than defending the facts they are denying, you put them in a position where they have to explain their insanity.

I'm saying something beyond that: to not argue with them at all. Not on this point.

It doesn't matter if their leftist is inconsistent. What matters is taking a stand, simply and clearly: treat the existence of white people as a given, and go on from there. If you really want to debate, then treat concession of that fact as a necessary precondition for there to be any debate at all.

Don't waste time chasing them around trying to point out the inconsistencies in their arguments. That matters vastly less. What matters is defiantly stating that white people exist, are being treated unfairly, that it's OK to be white.

In case the past couple months haven't made it abundantly clear, having a good argument matters way less than taking a bold stand, simple stand, acting like justice and righteousness is on your side, and not backing down. You can lose every 'debate' and still win the war if this attitude spreads.

[–]casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Latinx literally doesn't exist. Its the most fake and gay category there is. There are six racial groups in Latin America: Mestizo, Amerindian, Castizo, Mulatto, Negro, White

[–]yesofcoursenaturally[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yep. It's the most faggoty of terms, and really, anyone who wants to go on offense in a debate would have a field day there.

[–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Yes. Also never argue about White culture existing or not. White culture is by definition everything Whites do. If White people exist then their culture must exist. It's not up for debate.

[–]Blackbrownfreestuff 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Exactly. Whites don't need permission to have a culture. I once read an article titled "Why blacks get to have a culture". This is silly. No one "gets to have a culture". It exists whether we want it to or not, by definition.

Everyone knows this. Thats why It's important to understand what they mean by "get to have a culture". What they mean is, identifying anything positive as white culture is forbidden, because they wan't to destroy it and associate only racism and "evil" with being white.

[–]marc_gee 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

It's on the right track, but anti-whites will often say they agree "Jewish, black, or latins don't exist races, since race is a social construct." Just be ready for that.

[–]yesofcoursenaturally[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Sure, let 'em. I ain't arguing, and I strongly suggest others don't either at this point. Not getting drawn into an argument over the existence of white people is the key here. If they want to agree Jews, blacks, and 'latinx' don't exist, that's on them.

That said, my experience is they won't do that. Or at least, you're not going to get that outside of a fringe debaters who are irrelevant. The same people who will say that 'white people' don't exist as a category would typically sooner swallow strychnine than says 'Jews' don't exist in a meaningful sense. Hence why you see this push to 'capitalize Black but not capitalize white' and the fact that some newspaper decided to capitalize White as well has led to absolute panic.

[–]lithre 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Copy pasting my reply to some redditor that said that:

Race is not a social construct, it has biological significance:

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/bies.10315/abstract

This study explains in-depth Lewontin's fallacy which you are advocating for when you say there is more variation between members of their own race. It's an outdated view (ironically, right?) but is peddled by people/institutions with a globalist agenda, specifically so people like you can make the argument against people like me.

http://pritchardlab.stanford.edu/publications/pdfs/RosenbergEtAl02.pdf

http://psychology.uwo.ca/faculty/rushtonpdfs/PPPL1.pdf

Genetic analysis “supports the traditional racial groups classification.”

And race can even be determined from brain scans: http://www.cell.com/current-biology/abstract/S0960-9822%2815%2900671-5

[–]justjoggin 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Treat this as being beyond argument.

That’s when you just return a troll for a troll and say something simply because you know it gets under their skin like, “All lives matter” or “There were good people on both sides in Charlottesville.”