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    [–]antireddit 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

    The Israelis didnt need to do it. All they needed were neocons in the pentagon, CIA and Bush administration burying/ignoring intelligence on an imminent attack and the threat of Al Queda in general in order to allow an attack to happen. This is exactly what happened.

    Saying the Israelis actually carried out the attack is just silly overly complex Q anon level boomer tier nonsense, and I've seen no evidence that actually happened, and im far from being an admirer of Israel. It's called Occam's razor my friend.

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      [–]Jesus[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      I agree but the flight path of the planes going over Stewart International Airport seems to align with the drone theory. And remember, Rabbi Dov Zakheim, pentagon Comptroller who worked for Tridata which worked in the WTC7 for awhile and also SPC which worked on drone passenger jet pilot systems (Zakheim even had a fleet of passenger jets in Florida) tells me that none of these ZioCons and those embeded in the executive would have trusted a bunch of patsy Arabs to fly planes into buildings. Most professional pilots have said that they could not have flown Flight 77 the way these inexperienced pilots did, all of whom could not fly single cesna engine planes.

      Back to SI airport in rural NY. It is likely that the real answers are to be found when one researches who was on the planes. Search Alice Hoagland. Her homosexual son suppoedly died on UA93 and she was laughing doing interviews the day of. It was clear her behavior and not even really acknowledging her son, more or less pushing state department narratives leads me to believe he died a long time ago or simply got a new identity.

      We know that many family members who had loved ones supposedly die on the planes became random millionaires after the event, some of whom went on to change their names. This was exposed by Letsrollforums who had the FEDS looking through their pages. Likely because some of the passengers were found out to have aliases and did not die in the alleged crashes.

      What I'm gettig at here is that likely the ZioCons followed the Operation Northwoods document. That is that at least two planes departed that day, possibly a third, UA93 flew to Cleavland unabated and the two that were suppose to hit the towers flew to Stewart and were replaced with drone passenger jets, likely exactly the same types but drone piloted into beacons.

      Although, it is clear now that the towers were imploded with detcord, c4, gelignite, and nano-thermite, I ask how it is even possible for them to fly a plane into the buildings facade without knowing it might dislodge the explosives. If it had and the buildings could not be demolished they would have been found out. They screwed up on WTC7 ehoch was likely suppose to come down in the dust of the towers but didn't.

      Maybe they knew that the plane would not penetrate the core of the tower where all the explosives were situated.

      They want us to think the drone sliced through the steel framed tower like butter but I don't believe it did. Who really knows.

      Stewart was the first privatized-airport in the US in 2000. Lauder, Lowy and Spitzer all called for this privitisation, all are Jewish Zionists all played a role in 9/11. The airport was owned by Northern Express a British company whose board of directors at the time were mostly Jewish Zionists.

      Furthermore, look at Operation Northwoods document again. Notice it says:

      Off on holiday!

      That passengers would be carefully vetted with aliases; that the plane would be flown to a private airport and the passengers involved in the plot would get new identities.

      But no American says:

      Off on holiday.

      That's a British saying.

      Just found that interesting, how it parallels NorthExpress as a British company and this supposed declassified document was released by Bamford, likely some asset for some entity. He released it just before 9/11.

      [–]Jesus[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      Let it happen on purpose is what the John Gold Cass Sunstein cognitive infiltrators push. They are out to blame muslims only and America in general, particularly Bush. But we know the likely reality is the made it happen on purpose, which is a 5th column planned and executed 9/11.

      I believe Bush was NOT INVOLVED in planning 9/11, only later propagandizing the pretext, which he did with utter retardation.

      Bush even one time slipped out and sad it was a conspiracy. A conspiracy of whom?

      It was those embeded in his own administration, hard-line ZioCons (Zionist neoconservativies and Likudniks). That's why they shipped him off to Florida to read to Children. Notice when Secret Service tells Bush what happened, he looks perplexed, as if he was fooled. As if he finally knew why he became president.

      The Pnacer signers were also not all involved. For a few later came out to scold the neoconservatives and renounce their poor decision. Notice that none of those that did this were Jews. The authors of PNAC were mostly hard-Lined Likudniks and Zionists aligned with Israel. They likely knew what was to transpire and probably contracted Mossad and covert entities to do it.

      Read Graeme MacQueen's book on thr Anthrax Attacks because that was another false flag done by ZioCons which was direvtly connected to 9/11.

      Basically, the corrupt Bush family was on good terms with the Saudis. Theu are oil tycoons. The neocons don't actually like the Saudis, as evidenced in the neocon authored "Securing the Realm" document which was authored for Netanyahu, they then pakc their bags and fly to thr US to embed themselves into the executive Branch.

      Notice how Bush blames Bin Laden, a CIA asset and enemy of the Saudis, but the simulated hijackers were Saudis... doesn't make much sense does it.

      That is until you understand their are two factions blackmailing each other. The Bush aligned officials and the neocons and Likudniks in their think tanks.

      [–]Fitter_HappierWhite Nationalist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

      Building 7. If you don't understand that you don't know what you're talking about.

      [–]antireddit 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

      Trust me I've been over all this shit a hundred times. I looked at it with an open mind. There are certainly suspicious occurrences and possibly peripheral conspiracies that occurred. I mean Jews live for this shit. Nothing gives them more satisfaction that pulling one over on the goys(who usually know what they did but are too afraid to say it). One thing that always stood out to me was the fact Al Queda never did carry out another serious attack in the US, and is never even mentioned anymore. They had already served their purpose I guess and now they would just distract from the Neocon's new target, white advocates(and Iran).

      The thing about Israeli false flag attempts is that they usually fail miserably. The Israelis are not even close to being as competent as both the right and left think. Ex CIA like Phillip Giraldi and others have stated Mossad had a reputation for being less than competent, especially when compared to western intelligence agencies, and their track record shows it. They are somewhat good at assassinating Arabs(with huge amounts of collateral damage and mistaken deaths) and thats about it. But that's pretty much their specialty, and rampant Arab incompetence and corruption plays a big role in their successes. They also have the advantage of having a fanatically loyal worldwide diaspora at their disposal that cant be criticized or scrutinized, but when their conspiracies get more complex than assassinating Abdullah and Omar they have a pretty poor track record. They get away with this incompetence because their powerful diaspora actively covers for them. It's basically the Judenpresse and Hollywood that worship them and created the legend of their ultra competence. The likelyhood of them pulling off something this complex and risky without leaving smoking guns everywhere seems pretty unlikely to me, and I've looked hard for those smoking guns.

      I gave up. There are far more pressing Jewish conspiracies going on right now to worry about, I'm done wasting time on 9/11.

      [–]Fitter_HappierWhite Nationalist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

      this complex and risky without leaving smoking guns

      You mean like an obvious demolition of a building with little damage that collapsed at free fall?

      [–]antireddit 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

      I just went over the wikipedia page covering the collapse of wtc 7 and the explanation made sense to me. So no smoking gun there, sorry. You can claim this or that seemed implausible, but how many examples of skyscrapers collapsing do you have to base this on?

      One thing about the collapses that stands out is that Larry Silverstein the owner of the properties and a Jewish caricature if there ever was one, just happened to miss a meeting he normally has at the top of the WTC because his wife allegedly told him to make a medical appointment that day, thereby saving his life. I think like many Jewish billionaires he had some connections with Israeli intelligence, and someone probably passed on to him that he better stay away from WTC that day. That just goes along with my theory that the Israelis possibly knew specific details of the attack in advance.

      [–]Fitter_HappierWhite Nationalist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      wikipedia, imagine that, taking the official narrative.

      Try looking at the Engineers and Architects for 911 Truth and the University of Alaska analysis.

      [–]LarrySwinger2 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

      The likelyhood of them pulling off something this complex and risky without leaving smoking guns everywhere seems pretty unlikely to me, and I've looked hard for those smoking guns.

      Nice try, shill. A smoking gun is exactly what Building 7 was.

      There are far more pressing Jewish conspiracies going on right now to worry about, I'm done wasting time on 9/11.

      Yes, totally. Because 9/11 truth does not show once and for all that the commercially controlled media is completely compromised, and that elites are psychopathic beyond what most people can even comprehend. Nothing important about it. I suggest you go back to because people here won't fall for your shilling.

      [–]VraiBleuScots Protestant, Ulster Loyalist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

      people here won't fall for your shilling.

      His explanation sounds rational to me, as does his temperament. Try not calling your comrades shills at the first opportunity just because they don't align 100% with your niche views. FFS he propably agrees with you on almost everything that matters.

      [–]LarrySwinger2 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      9/11 demonstrates just how far conspiracies go. It's something very extreme, but at the same time it's undeniable that the people behind it have infiltrated the highest levels of the US government, as well as the mass media worldwide. Downplaying its importance, or Israel's role in it, is typical of shills, which is what caused my suspicion. Looking at his post history confirmed it. And you make yourself look suspicious by defending a shill as your fourth post.

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        [–]lothrop_evola 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

        Between the "Lavon Affair" and the "Dancing Israelis", I've become very suspicious of that country.

        [–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

        You know I'm starting to think these Israelis are real jerks! (Excuse my language.)

        [–]Lostcarkeys 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        USS Liberty incident too.

        And the Mossad connections to Epstein.

        [–]EthnocratArcheofuturist 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (20 children)

        I actually believe the official story to be honest.

        [–]AFutureConcern 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        Same here, or at least I see no real reason to doubt it. All that talk of thermite, explosives, missiles is so stupid and misses the point entirely.

        The real story is what narrative emerged from the attacks, and what did it lead to? A never-ending war in Afghanistan, the "war on terror," and a severe restriction of the freedoms of ordinary citizens - powers granted to authorities that are now being used against us. Instead of attacking the policies, idiot conservatives try debunking the supposed "reason" for the policies (so the towers were taken down by explosives, global warming isn't real and vaccines don't work), which was never the real reason in the first place, while tacitly accepting that if it were real, the measures would be justified.

        [–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (18 children)

        [–]EthnocratArcheofuturist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

        I'm not doing this.

        [–]justjoggin 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

        That’s what they count on.

        [–]EthnocratArcheofuturist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        Save it.

        [–]Jesus[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (14 children)

        Part 1

        The FBI declassified but highly redacted documents on the "Dancing Israelis" called the Twin Tower event the "TwinBomb" or "TwinBombing," i.e., Twin Tower Bombing.

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        We are are in deep trouble if the majority of users here think Muslim Arabs who couldn't fly single Cessna engine planes were able to bring down three buildings on 9/11 all demolished.... I mean.... globally "collapsed" at near free-fall speed, into the greatest path of resistance, breaking various laws of physics with two "planes", flying at low altitude well over their VMO limit. It takes someone with no more than two brain cells to rub together to come to the conclusion that the official government sanctioned conspiracy theory is a monstrous myth.

        Very odd, indeed, that supposedly all these confessed Jew-wise people here on /r/debatealtright, who claim the ideology of this dissident viewpoint, will not touch 9/11, even though it is by far most obvious false flags atrocity event to ever have been orchestrated on American soil. Firstly, I must conclude that if over 60%+ of Americans believe that 9/11 was an inside job, then these users here claiming the opposite, that Israel nor 5th column neocons were involved, have to be either ignorant, in denial or hasbara shills. I suspect a few of them are crypto-Zionists at heart. I also suspect that there were many disinformation trails manufactured by Zionists on 9/11 to blame certain Zionist factions in a (let it happen on purpose) fashion; a narrative that Jewish Zionist Cass Sunstein would have, and did propagandize after the events to allow for plausible deniability. That is, Establish red-herrings and loose ends on a limited hangout basis. What they want dearly is for skeptics to believe in the "let it happen on purpose" theory, not the "made it happen on purpose" theory.

        We can observe some of this perception management in the Jewish made film, Vice, which received its largest funding from an Israeli defense consultant. The film, evidently depicting 9/11 as a Muslim operation, which it wasn't, blames Cheney and Bush for their incompetence for letting Muslims attack the US because they just hated our "freedoms" so much. The Jewish ZioCon (Zionist Trotskysit neoconservatives) embedded in the Bush administration were, in the film, depicted as sane, competent and anti-war. In fact, the neocons, such as the criminal Libby, stated that if "the US intervenes we will cause such a mess in the South West Asia and that this could effectively hurt Israel." The latter is quite hilarious, considering literally all the die-hard neocons and Likudniks, such as Netanyahu, Libby, Frum, Feith, Wolfowitz, Barak, etc., mere hours after the 9/11 false flag event were calling for outright war, a war strategy that paralleled the Yinon Plan but so too American Unipolar military might against growing Multilateralism. In order to set these strategies of global preemptive warfare in motion a pretext would have to be blamed and for the PNACER's, that pretext, as they proposed in their think tank policy papers, would have to be a "catastrophic and catalyzing event... like a New Pearl Harbor."

        (Source: Rebuilding America's Defenses document)

        So, if a film, such as Vice, created by a Jew and funded by Israeli defense contractors, can depict neoconservatives as sane anti-war activists, have Jewish made films and TV shows, broadcasted before 9/11 ever predicted or gloated about the pretext that was to come?

        Well yes! Thousands of shows directed and created by dozens of Israeli Zionist Jews, prominent figures including Arnon Milchan andStan Lee (not his real name) often depict the twin towers being demolished.

        ^ ^ ^ Some of the most obvious depictions in this compilation are created and directed by either Israeli Jews or Zionists. The mathematical over-representation of these depictions which happen to be made by Jews compared to non-Zionists/non-Jews depictions of prominent buildings being demolished/destroyed in a time period of 10 years (from 1991 to 2001) implicates a clear foreknowledge of what was to transpire.

        ^ ^ ^ "MR. ISRAEL" - Israel's senior LAKAM agent Arnon Milchan (center) has long been the man bridging Israel's intelligence establishment with each new government. In this photo from 2005, Milchan sits between his old friends Vice Prime Minister Shimon Peres and Finance Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, a former employee of Milchan's chemical company, Milchan Bros. Milchan was the essential agent in building Israel's nuclear arsenal.

        ^ ^ ^ The pilot episode of the The Lone Gunmen television series in which a passenger airliner is remotely hijacked and flown into the World Trade Center was filmed in 2000 and aired on television six months before 9/11, on Fox TV in March 2001. The amazingly uncanny similarity of this television show with the events of 9/11 intrigued me and led to my discovery that a senior Israeli intelligence agent named Arnon Milchan was very closely connected with Fox TV, the company that produced the program.

        In 2001 Milchan had long been connected to both Rupert Murdoch, owner of News Corp. and its many subsidiaries, and to Gerald Levin, president and CEO of Time Warner and CNN. The success of the Israeli-produced false-flag terror spectacle was critically dependent on the major news media pushing the official, but unproven, explanation and ignoring the many unanswered questions about what really happened. As the highest-level Israeli intelligence agent in the United States, Milchan certainly seemed to be "Mossad's Man in the Middle", co-ordinating the 9/11 cover up with the two largest news media outlets in the United States.

        Confidential: The Life of Secret Agent Turned Hollywood Tycoon - Arnon Milchan is a recently published biography of Arnon Milchan (July 2011), the Israeli weapons smuggler/dealer who helped create Israel's nuclear arsenal. Written by the Israeli Meir Doron, a family friend who was raised in Milchan's hometown of Rehovot, and his brother-in-law Joseph Gelman, Confidential is a sympathetic biography written by a couple Zionist Jews, which explains their comparison of Milchan with James Bond in the prologue.

        Like most things concerning Israel, how one views Arnon Milchan is all a matter of perspective. A Zionist devoted to the State of Israel may very well see Milchan as a Jewish James Bond while an American like myself is much more likely to view Milchan as one of Ian Fleming's villains, not unlike Ernst Stavro Blofeld (a.k.a. "Number One"), the evil genius with aspirations of world domination as head of the global criminal organization SPECTRE, The Special Executive for Counterintelligence, Terrorism, Revenge, and Extortion.

        ^ ^ ^ LAKAM'S AGENT NUMBER ONE - Arnon Milchan's illegal smuggling of 810 krytron triggers for an off-the-books nuclear arsenal in the hands of a global criminal organization of Zionist terrorists is something that Ian Fleming's criminal masterminds would have tried to pull off...

        There is, of course, a fundamental difference between the James Bond character and Arnon Milchan. Bond (Agent 007) is an agent of the British secret service who is sent on missions to find and neutralize foreign criminal organizations that pose a grave danger to Britain and the West by stealing their nuclear secrets and technology. Arnon Milchan, on the other hand, has long been a master thief and senior agent in such an organization, LAKAM or Mossad II. LAKAM is the very same "rogue outfit" run by Rafael "Dirty Rafi" Eitan in the 1980s that controlled Jonathan J. Pollard, the American Jew who was caught spying for Israel in 1985. Since the 1960s Milchan has been actively engaged in helping Israel create an off-the-books nuclear arsenal, which is at the center of the current instability in the Middle East - and the world.

        ^ ^ ^ The Mossad spymaster Rafi Eitan is a senior member of the Israeli Knesset although he is a wanted criminal in the United States. Here Eitan (top) and Ehud Barak, two of the chief suspects of 9/11, sit together in the Knesset, October 2008.

        In reading the Milchan biography I found a number of interesting bits of information, which are included in this article with my comments. One of the most interesting things I learned was that Milchan's first big film, in which he invested two million dollars, involved a key scene in which a passenger airliner is flown into a high rise building. The British/French film, The Medusa Touch, was released in 1978. It is worth noting that the Russian Jewish Lord Lew Grade (born Lev Winogradsky) immediately bought the film's foreign rights for $5 million before it was even produced, putting Milchan ahead by a million dollars.

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        Part 2

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        The climactic scene of The Medusa Touch (1978) is of a passenger plane being remotely controlled (by mind) and flown into a high rise building.

        The Israeli agent Arnon Milchan's first big film simulated a plane crashing into a high rise - in 1978. This happens to have been the same year that the former Mossad chief, Isser Harel, predicted that Arab terrorists would strike New York City's tallest tower. This is no coincidence.

        It should be noted that Arnon Milchan is one of Israel's longest serving and most senior intelligence agents, having served the State of Israel since the early 1960s. For Milchan to produce a film that depicts an airliner flying into a high rise in the same year (1978) that the former head of Israeli intelligence predicted an attack by Arab terrorists on the tallest building in New York City is certainly no coincidence. This is when the terrorist Likudniks came to power in Israel and when high level Israeli terrorists began planning 9/11. Milchan's movie was useful in visualizing the false-flag attacks that occurred 23 years later.

        The following are a few extracts from Confidential with my comments on the Israeli-written biography of Arnon Milchan.

        "Arnon is a special man. It was I who recruited him. Working secretly, from outside the official system, he brought extraordinary ideas and a level of creativity that greatly contributed to our country. When I was at the Ministry of Defense, Arnon was involved in numerous defense-related procurement activities and intelligence operations. His strength is in making connections at the highest levels in countries around the world, including important countries with which Israel does not officially maintain relationships. His activities gave us a huge advantage, strategically, diplomatically and technologically…" - Israeli President Shimon Peres, 8 February 2010


        Milchan relocated New Regency from Warner Bros. to Fox in 1998 after News Corp. agreed to make a $200-million equity investment in the company.

        On January 14, 2011, New Regency and Fox signed an agreement to extend their distribution relationship through 2022, while at the same time providing a more active role for New Regency involving Fox releases. (p. 259)

        Bollyn: Milchan's partnership with Rupert Murdoch and Fox TV began in 1998. Two years later this partnership produced the pilot episode of The Lone Gunmen in which a passenger airliner was hijacked by remote control and flown into the World Trade Center. The program aired on Fox TV in March 2001.

        Murdoch's initial $200 million investment in Milchan's company in 1998 is something of a mystery. Why did Murdoch buy into a dodgy company run by an Israeli nuclear criminal? It is, of course, most likely the result of Murdoch simply doing as he is told by the Zionist financiers, e.g. the Rothschilds, who support his Zionist propaganda empire. As the New York Times wrote in July 2011 about Confidential:

        In the late 1990s, the News Corporation, which owns Fox, paid $200 million for a 20 percent stake in Mr. Milchan’s Regency Enterprises. A News Corporation spokeswoman, Teri Everett, had no immediate response to a query about the company’s reason for backing Mr. Milchan, and about any reaction by its chief executive, Rupert Murdoch, to revelations in the new book.

        RAFI EITAN

        Rafi Eitan went on to a successful political career as the head of Israel’s Gil (Pensioners) Party. He served in the Knesset and as special minister without portfolio, advising the prime minister on national security matters. Since the Pollard affair in 1985, Eitan has not been allowed to travel to the United States, where he could be arrested if he did…

        LAKAM was officially disbanded as a result of the Pollard affair in 1985. However, it continues to operate worldwide, except in the United States, under a new name. (p. 261)


        Israel gained it modern nuclear deterrence capabilities because of the covert efforts of many people, but Milchan was one of the most essential. (p. 262)


        To counter the growing threat, the renamed LAKAM and the Mossad have kicked into high gear. Every known computer system sent to Iran over the past decade has been bugged with monitoring devices. Every possible high-tech system, such as aircraft electronics and spare parts, has been tampered with. (p. 262)

        “MR. ISRAEL”

        When legendary media mogul Sumner Redstone told us that he considers Milchan to be “Mr. Israel,” he had little idea how accurate his sentiments actually are. If one could imagine a single, indispensable person in the middle who knows where all of the bodies are buried when it comes to Israel’s secret wars, it would be none other than this heavyweight Hollywood producer, who spends his life seamlessly moving between the world of fame and secrecy, fantasy and reality, war and peace. (p. 264)

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        Part 3

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        "In defense of the world Order, U.S. soldiers would have to kill and die. ... We are not going to achieve a New World Order without paying for it in blood, as well as in words and money."

        -- Arthur Schlesinger, Jr., in Back to the Womb, July/August 1993 issue of Foreign Affairs

        “Beware the leader who bangs the drums of war in order to whip the citizenry into a patriotic fervor, for patriotism is indeed a double-edged sword. It both emboldens the blood, just as it narrows the mind. And when the drums of war have reached a fever pitch and the blood boils with hate and the mind has closed, the leader will have no need in seizing the rights of the citizenry. Rather, the citizenry, infused with fear and blinded by patriotism, will offer up all of their rights unto the leader and gladly so. How do I know? For this is what I have done. And I am Caesar.”

        -- Julius Caesar

        “Today, Americans would be outraged if U.N. troops entered Los Angeles to restore order. Tomorrow, they will be grateful. This is especially true, if they were told there was an outside threat from beyond – whether real or promulgated – that threatened our very existence. It is then that all the peoples of the world will pledge with world leaders to deliver them from this evil. The one thing that every man fears is the unknown. When presented with this scenario, individual rights will be willingly relinquished with the guarantee of their well-being, granted to them by their world government.”

        -- Henry Kissinger, at the Bilderberg Conference in Evians, France, 1991

        The So-called NEOCONS

        In order to create an internationalist framework you need an institutional framework of people across the globe, people in power with wealth able to wield the global economic system in their localities on behalf of a internationalist government. To be clear, the Rockefeller family are notorious for and admit to calling for a new economic world order. An order that will emergence from a strong BRIC alliance. This multilateral economic world order was conceived back in the late 1950’s and early 1960’s, specifically in the Think Tank book, 'Prospects for America.' It is markedly similar to the ideology of duginism.

        Presently, this vision has thus far been materialized in the G20+, where it was before just the G7 operating the global agenda, moving from unipolar economic control from a USD global currency reserve to an all inclusive SDR base; thus a multipolar, dedolarized, economic order with the inclusion of other nations, most particularly developing BRIC nations, ie China, India, Brazil, Russia, Iran, etc.

        The American plutocracy has been very complicit but they too wish to reap as much as possible while still having a chair of immense power in a USD global currency reserve so they've delayed IMF reforms and thus, the bypass is already underway with the BRICS development bank, an IMF counterpart that will distribute SDRs.

        However, the IMF and the Bank for International Settlements, as well as the majority of BRIC countries are becoming tired of U.S nonconservative imperialism, mostly advocated by dual-Israeli Zionists, a large majority of them Jewish. In fact the entire Iraq war and the ‘New Pearl Harbor’ catalyst: the WTC bombings were primarily conceived by 25 neoconservatives, the majority of them Jewish, enthusiastically admitted in an Israeli news report. The movement originated from Irwin Kristol, a communist and trotskyite with anti-Stalinist views.

        Many of these government officials are reported to have held dual Israeli-US citizenship¥ during their tenure in Washington, DC. Included in the signatories of the Project for a New American Century is Dick Cheny, Donald Rumsfeld, Paul Wolfowitz¥, Peter Rodman, Elliott Abrams¥, Richard Armitage, Robert Zoellick¥, Paula Dobriansky, Richard Perle¥, Eliot A. Cohen¥, Douglas Feith¥, I. Lewis “Scooter” Libby¥, Dov Zakheim¥, John Bolten¥, David Wurmser¥, Michael Chertoff¥, Phillip Zellikow¥, Jeb Bush, etc.

        Here are some excerpts from their think tank documents:

        “ the leadership necessary to establish and protect a new order that holds the promise of convincing potential competitors that they need not aspire to a greater role or pursue a more aggressive posture to protect their legitimate interests.”

        Of course we remember George H.W Bush calling for a New World Order and the establishment of a "truly United Nations" as authored by the UN's founders. This speech occurred on September 11th 1990, 11 years before September 11th 2001. But Bush and especially his son would be key in shaping the circumstances needed to curtail established American principles and proceed in redirecting US foreign policy.

        "Further, the process of transformation, even if it brings revolutionary change, is likely to be a long one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event – like a new Pearl Harbor."

        As evidenced from that statement, this was an essential key, critical point that was clearly not lost on this think tank group (Project for a New American Century).

        So, extreme doubt was cast as to how fast these aims could be achieved, even under a right-wing administration.

        They needed a powerful catalyst that would force Congress and the US public to go along with their treasonous plan for alleged US imperialism and dominance. (More on the "alleged" aspect as you read onward.)

        By their own numerous admissions, they needed a new Pearl Harbor.

        The UN and its Coinciding Geopolitics

        We all know the International Masters of Finance are pulling the strings on this never ending war. My question: WHO or WHAT pulls their strings?

        Here we have, in 1998, the V.P. of UNOCAL urging the U.S. Congress to help the United Nations establish an internationally recognized government in Afghanistan so they can lay their oil pipeline. That was nearly four years ago before 2001.

        "The only other possible route option is across Afghanistan, which has its own unique challenges."

        "... we have made it clear that construction of our proposed pipeline cannot begin until a recognized government is in place that has the confidence of governments, lenders and our company. "

        "A recent study for the World Bank states that the proposed pipeline from Central Asia across Afghanistan and Pakistan to the Arabian Sea would provide more favorable netbacks to oil producers... " [i.e., higher profits for the banksters]

        "... cannot begin construction until an internationally recognized Afghanistan government is in place."

        "We urge the Administration and the Congress to give strong support to the United Nations-led peace process in Afghanistan."

        Source: Read U.S. House of Representatives; 107th Congress, 1st Session; 1998: Testimony By: John J. Maresca; Vice President, International Relations, UNOCAL Corporation To House Committee On International Relations, Subcommittee On Asia And The Pacific February 12, 1998 Washington, D.C.

        In it, they covertly called for a war in Afghanistan in order to install a new puppet-leader; create a puppet government that will not impede their plan to glut the area of its vast natural resources... but HOW to start that war? How about terror in the U.S.?

        But even if both pipelines were built, they would not have enough total capacity to transport all the oil expected to flow from the region in the future; nor would they have the capability to move it to the right markets. Other export pipelines must be built. This is just one geopolitical agenda of many which has blossomed from the pretext that is 9/11.

        The 1992 NEOCON Think Tank DPG Documents

        Now for the 1992 DPG neoconservative plan, which called for:

        • Huge increase in US defense spending.

        • Assertion of US lone superpower status.

        • Discourage industrial nations from challenging the US.

        • Maintain the mechanisms for deterring potential competitors

        • Prevent emergence of regional competitors and new rivals.

        • Adopt the use of preemptive force - unprovoked warfare.

        • US should forsake multilateralism and act independently to get its own way.

        • Ability to handle two major regional contingencies at once. (SW Asia & Korea)

        • Foreign intervention in global disputes, even if not directly related to US interests.

        • Make Milstar (Military Strategic and Tactical Relay) satellite communications network top priority.

        • Show the leadership necessary to establish and protect "a new order."

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        Part 4

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        The 1994 New Citizenship Project

        In 1994, a new non-profit organization, the 'New Citizenship Project' was formed, with political commentator William (Bill) Kristol as chairman and Gary J. Schmitt as president. It was largely funded by many private neoconservative donors and right-wing foundations as well as democrat war-hawks. Their mission statement...

        "An organization created to promote greater civic participation in our national life."

        1996 and Neocon Treachery

        When it comes to neocon treachery, 1996 was indeed a very big year, because these same neoconservatives decided to get busy. Very busy.

        They formed the US Committee to Expand NATO, which later became the US Committee on NATO.)

        Neoconservatives Bill Kristol and Donald Kagan co-authored a piece called "Toward a Neo-Reaganite Foreign Policy," another cornerstone in their plan for complete control of US policy.

        Also in 1996, another dark document was conceived and written for the IASPS, the Institute for Advanced Strategic and Political Studies (Israeli company), with dire implications for the middle east. It was entitled "A Clean Break - A New Strategy for Securing the Realm," penned by neocon co-authors David Wurmser and Richard Perle. It formed the basis for the middle east wars which would take place post-9/11.

        Most have given credit to Douglas Feith, but he now denies being a "main" contributor, although admits to be consulted on the paper before its publication.

        1997 and The Project for a New American Century

        In 1997, the Project for a New American Century was finally born, the PNAC. Spawned from the skewed right-wing brain-trust of neocons who are really fascist neotrotskyites; William Kristol and Robert Kagan, their sole purpose was to form a new US policy... one that was overly aggressive and self aggrandizing, espousing the US as supreme over all. (In reality, the "supreme US" is all a ruse, which will be explained further on.)

        In its founding statement of principles, just like the DPG draft, the PNAC statement called for U.S. global leadership and preemptive action, stating:

        "Of course, the United States must be prudent in how it exercises its power. But we cannot safely avoid the responsibilities of global leadership or the costs that are associated with its exercise. America has a vital role in maintaining peace and security in Europe, Asia, and the Middle East. If we shirk our responsibilities, we invite challenges to our fundamental interests. The history of the 20th century should have taught us that it is important to shape circumstances before crises emerge, and to meet threats before they become dire. The history of this century should have taught us to embrace the cause of American leadership."

        The evidence of a clear effort to take down the US becomes even more transparent just a year later in October of '98, when yet another dark document was conceived, called "Catastrophic Terrorism: Elements of a National Policy."

        1998, Catastrophic Terrorism: Elements of a National Policy

        "Catastrophic Terrorism"... as a National Policy?


        Well, that's exactly what the public and other government watchdogs were asking back then as well, and so guess what? All of a sudden - magically, overnight - that document suddenly had a new name... Catastrophic Terrorism: "Tackling the New Danger."

        So, using our 20/20 hindsight once again, was that earlier title all just some form of eerie prescience, or was it an actual revealing preview of their true intended plans for this country?

        Thinking minds shouldn't have to parse that one about for too long.

        Then there was the issue of the little subtitle in the document...

        "Imagining the 'transformative event.'"

        There are two key components to that title... the act of "imagining," as well as the "transformative event," the latter of which is actually two more things unto itself - something "transformative," and in the form of an "event."

        Perhaps the only title more telling about its authors might have been "Daydreaming about the transformative event."

        A very telling admission/concession of guilt came in the form of a later revision which shamelessly changed the subtitle to its present version, "Visions of Governance for the Twenty-First Century."

        Although, even that small revision reveals much about this group and its plans, because it blatantly spells out in its revised title, a new type of US governance is being implied.

        A Policy Coup

        This new policy proposal was the byproduct of yet another tiny micro-group of neoconservative men; Zionist gentile, Ashton B. Carter; Russian Zionist Jew, John Deutch, and Philip Zellikow, Jewish Zionist. At the time, only John Deutch was publicly well known as the former Deputy Secretary of Defense from 1994-95, and Director of the CIA from 1995-96. Deutch also served on the boards of directors of Citigroup, Cummins, Raytheon, and Schlumberger Ltd. Deutch is also a member of the Trilateral Commission.

        Let us see what the Jewish press says themselves about Zionists / Jews with Dual-Israeli citizenship occupying the U.S. Government.

        From Jewish Week, July 21, 1995:

        JEWISH APPOINTEES AT WHITE HOUSE [headline] An administration that already seems to be setting records for the number of Jews in high-level positions has added several more.

        Lee Fisher, the former attorney general of Ohio, is President Clinton's choice as head of the National Commission on Crime Control and Prevention... [the article tells us that Fisher is: a Cleveland lawyer, played a major role in setting up hate crimes statues in Ohio; known for his effort to create partnerships between law enforcement and citizens groups; leading advocate of handgun control]

        ... Cheryl Halpern, to the broadcasting board of governors of the International Bureau of Broadcasting. [Halpern: was president of the Natl. Jewish Coalition; served on the executive board of the Washington Institute for Near East Policy, [couldn't that be considered a conflict of interest?]the Executive Committee of the N. J. Regional Advisory Board of the A.D.L. and the Metrowest Jewish Federation] Gentiles did not scream HATE CRIMES or Discrimination! Only "special persons" do that. The Jewish Forward '95 carried an article about Jew, John Deutch's appointment as head of CIA.

        As soon as he was confirmed, Deutch promptly dismissed all experienced high-ranking gentile CIA officials and replaced them with a new, all-Jewish staff: George Tenet, to CIA Deputy Director; David Cohen to Dir. Of Operations and Nora Slatkin to Executive Director... third in command of the Agency.

        The Forward says that Deutch and his family are holocaust survivors. His mother was the daughter of the famous Zionist, Jean Fischer, whose family were wealthy diamond merchants in Belgium. This fact connects the wealthy Deutch family both to the Zionist state of Israel and to the international Jewish diamond and banking cartel, which has a long history of fraud and third world exploitation

        In February 2000, CBS-60 Minutes, aired a program about a former employee (a Jew) who was suing the CIA, alleging that he had been terminated from the CIA – singled out -- because he was a Jew. This was a common occurrence in the 40's through 60's but not too common in the present day. As a result of that pernicious performance, the ADL has now become an arm of the U.S. Government – a "watch dog" appointed to "observe and direct" the hiring/firing policies of (allegedly) OUR U.S. CIA!

        Do you understand just how far the infiltration and control of OUR government has gone and is there ANY doubt that what is in place now is a Zionist Occupied Government,. Look at congress and their applaud when Benjamin Netanyahu speaks. It is a circus. And yet saying this will get you the anti-Semitic canard.

        Also from Peter Kawaja's "THE SADDEST CHAPTER OF AMERICAS HISTORY" on John Deutch, a "special person" who like Bush, took control of "our," already corrupt CIA :

        John Deutch now CIA Director - formerly Chemistry Professor at MIT & on the Defense Science Board which issued a secret report in 1980 urging US production of "binary" weapons.

        The New York Times reported in July 1995 that on his appointment, Deutch "moved quickly to change things, Frederick Hitz [Inspector General of the Central Intelligence Agency] was the only senior official who kept his job." He essentially gutted the CIA of so called realist conservatives.

        Furthermore, Phillip Zellikow would "coincidentally" be later named as the head of the 9/11 Commission, while Ashton B. Carter would later become Secretary of Defense.

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        Part 5

        Catastrophic Terrorism: Elements of a National Policy Continued...

        The thing most damning about the Catastrophic Terrorism (CT) study was their joint speculation on what would have happened had the 1993 World Trade Center bombing brought down the twin towers...

        "Such an act of catastrophic terrorism would be a watershed event in American history. It could involve loss of life and property unprecedented in peacetime and undermine America's fundamental sense of security, as did the Soviet atomic bomb test in 1949. Like Pearl Harbor, this event would divide our past and future into a before and after. The United States might respond with draconian measures, scaling back civil liberties, allowing wider surveillance of citizens, detention of suspects, and use of deadly force."

        The proposal then suggests:

        "More violence could follow, either further terrorist attacks or U.S. counterattacks."

        These members of the CT study also wrote:

        "Readers should imagine the possibilities for themselves, because the most serious constraint on current policy is lack of imagination. An act of catastrophic terrorism that killed thousands or tens of thousands of people and/or disrupted the necessities of life for hundreds of thousands, or even millions, would be a watershed event in America’s history. It could involve loss of life and property unprecedented for peacetime and undermine Americans’ fundamental sense of security within their own borders in a manner akin to the 1949 Soviet atomic bomb test, or perhaps even worse. Constitutional liberties would be challenged as the United States sought to protect itself from further attacks by pressing against allowable limits in surveillance of citizens, detention of suspects, and the use of deadly force. More violence would follow, either as other terrorists seek to imitate this great "success" or as the United States strikes out at those considered responsible."

        "Like Pearl Harbor, such an event would divide our past and future into a before and after."

        "Using imagination, we hope now to find some of the political will that we know would be there later, "after," because this nation prefers prevention to funereal reconstruction. When this threat becomes clear the President must be in a position to activate extraordinary capabilities."

        This isn't a proposal as much as it is a full out plan... neocon daydreaming on how to take down the United States.


        When it comes to the numerous repeated references to "Pearl Harbor," it was all very deliberate. It was literally an elaborate mass conditioning scheme, to get people to once again accept the "great lie," as they did leading to WWII.

        As coincidence would have it... conspicuously enough, the $450-million dollar movie blockbuster "Pearl Harbor" was also released early that year, in May of 2001, settling the horror of Dec 7, 1941 back into the public consciousness.

        Add to that, this disturbing account. According to author Barbara Honegger, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld had given out literally hundreds of copies of Pearl Harbor; Warning and Decision that year, written by Rand employee Roberta Wohlstetter. It was also reported to be required reading for Rumsfeld's personal aides.

        With a multi-trillion dollar War on Terror looming on the horizon, this was not a coincidence.

        The PNAC set the stage and then they played it for all its worth. This group was literally the poster-child for all things non-Constitutional mayhem post 9/11, most especially the run-up to the Iraq War.

        Preceding the war, key PNAC members such as Paul Wolfowitz (later the head of the World Bank!!!) and Richard Perle beat the drum for war with Iraq as did Benjamin Netanyahu and Israel hard-line Likud party members. According the Vanderbilt Television Archives, Wolfowitz was on 180 times to sell the war while Perle was on 187.

        They were programming the American public to not only accept their ruse, but then act upon it using classical conditioning methods.

        And as history shows, it seems to have worked pretty damn well.

        Each of these PNAC proposals were essential pieces to the overall master plan, the takeover and dissolution of the United States, the latter of which is totally contrary to their stated principles, but as many have already figured out, the inevitable outcome of this has already been deviously engineered into the deployment of their aggressive plan, in the form of blowback and retaliation from those oppressed and infuriated by the plans eventual overall execution. Perhaps most telling of all, the PNAC website ( and the POTD website ( have both been removed from the internet.

        What's the old saying about having nothing to hide?

        Long story short folks, if you haven't figured it out by now, this was an illegal coup on the United States of America. Period. End of discussion.

        According to Michelle Ciarrocca and William D. Hartung's book, "Axis Of Influence: Behind the Bush Administration's Missile Defense Revival," World Policy Institute Special Report, July 2002...

        "When Zakheim left the Defense Department in 1987, it was for an executive vice president post with the Virginia-based government contractor Systems Planning Corporation (SPC), which has supplied the Defense Department with military technology such as remote controlled flight technology for several decades and has been a support contractor for the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA). Zakheim also served as CEO at subsidiary SPC International and as a consultant for the defense contractors McDonnell Douglas (now a part of Boeing) and Northrop Grumman."

        When it comes to the US neoconservative movement, there appears to be dirt from 9/11, no matter where you turn, yet, this is but only the tip of the iceberg.

        Everyone gets the blame post 9/11, except for the neocons, Zionists and their US and Israeli supporters who planned it all. For added measure, these neocons were center stage on the spotlight of leftist and right leaning news agencies. They are paraded on live television as if they are saviors or idols we should look up to.

        The fact that the mainstream corporate media has said virtually nothing about this infiltration of the US government by a private neoconservative group of individuals, with foreign ties to another government, that is quite telling in itself.

        It tends to substantiate and corroborate allegations that the media is a disinformation and propaganda conduit of the government, supported by the ultra-wealthy powers that be.

        Another point of contention is the fact that this secretive group is also a key sister organization to another covert group, the Israeli organization known as IASPS, the Institute for Advanced Strategic and Political Studies. (Responsible for Clean Break: A New Strategy for Securing the Realm.)

        The two plans together, Rebuilding America's Defenses, and A Clean Break, both dovetail together as one plan, with a singular agenda and objective.

        One could rightfully suggest that there may be more than just these two uncovered plans in play. There very well could conceivably be at least two more plans, covering both the EU and Asia, but they have yet to surface in the public domain.

        I've said it many times over and I will keep repeating it every chance I get...

        The Taliban did not create the IASPS or the PNAC.

        Al Qaeda didn't draft the "Clean Break" document, nor the 1992 DPG, or the 2000 "Rebuilding America's Defenses" document.

        Isis is not the one changing US law or restricting your Constitutional rights.

        Our politicians did all of this to you... to all of us... and yet they themselves are but minions to the powers that be (TPTB), puppets to the uber-rich marionettes who rule this world with indifference for all but themselves.

        Allegedly... these neoconservative Israel hard-liner idealists did it all so that they could perpetuate their plan for US supremacy through the "New American Century," but in all reality, it's about the demise of the US, for a one-world globalist rule.

        That may be hard to accept, or even fathom for some, but one only needs to look at what's happened to the US post 9/11 as a result of their covert national policy changes.

        This is why many of the internationalists see fit to turn to a multilateral economic order with the possible exclusion of the U.S.

        The system at its present has been in development for more then three centuries now, its formations can be seen in action in the late 1600s in Amsterdam which was a former financial power house for Jewish bankers in the past which aided in the removal of the Roman Catholic's influence in England (King James) with William of Orange, (ref. The Glorious Revolution).

        Many people hate on the world government for their engineering of economies and people, but what these people have done has been a manufactured progression towards what they believe to be a stable, economically egalitarian redistribution whose aim is a better quality of life for people, so they say, and a state counter intuitive to the human animal because tribal feudalism is that state and its manifestations occur in things such as Financial Faux-Capitalism, where we have a short rebuff too, as to why we have democratic socialism with the plugin for capitalist markets. The New Economic World Order might look good on paper, it might even work, yet we've seen for many years its infiltration and the bad people that surround it. It could be hailed as the savior of poverty and war, the antidote in fact, or just another form of totalitarian control run by technocrats, theocrats and the Zionist Cabal.

        And let us now look at what a prominent German Jewish neocon has to say about this New Order....

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        Part 6

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        Alexander H. Joffe, a pro-Israel academic, has been a featured writer in the pages of this JINSA publication, and that he was given so much space to tout his theories certainly reflects the high regard in which his views are held.

        According to Michael Collins Piper. quoted from his book until further notice:

        In his essay, Joffee frankly admitted that “America is an empire” and asserts that, yes, this is a very good thing. Joffe says that when the UN dared to take on Zionism, that marked the demise of the UN in the minds of the internationalists.

        Joffe writes:

        “The end of the General Assembly as a credible body may plausibly be ascribed to the infamous ‘Zionism is Racism’ resolution in 1975.” The JINSA author contends that the world should be “grateful” that the UN has been “discredited, reduced to farce and ultimately ground to a halt,” referring, of course, to UN positions that the Zionists and their allies in the world empire movement find offensive.

        As a result of the UN being shelved as a world government vehicle, writes Joffe, “We now have the opportunity, and obligation, to begin again.” However, he warns that the emerging European Union (EU) is a threat to the dream of a global empire.

        The JINSA writer asserts that the EU is an:

        “alternative vision for the international community,” one that, as he puts it, frankly is “the authentic countervision to an American Empire.”

        According to the Zionist writer, the biggest problem with Europe and the EU is that:

        “culture remains at the core of Europe’s problems. Nationalism was a doctrine born in Europe, as were its vicious mutant offspring: fascism and communism.”

        (Note: A fervent advocate of Israeli super-nationalism, the writer, Joffe, doesn’t seem to see the lack of logic in his attack on other peoples’ nationalism—but then, again, honesty has never been integral to the hard- line Zionist point of view.)

        Joffe complains that although “the new European Empire is multi- cultural in theory . . . in reality it is dominated politically and culturally by France and economically by Germany.”

        Today, in the EU, he says:

        “driven by a sense of postcolonial guilt and postwar ennui the door have been thrown open to all ideas. At the most sinister levels it has permitted and even legitimized a vast explosion of unhinged thought and action, namely anti-Americanism, anti-Semitism, and a wide variety of conspir- acy theories.”

        (The so-called “conspiracy theories” that so alarm this Zionist theo- retician are those that dare to challenge the “official” views of what real- ly happened on September 11, 2001. He is inflamed that millions of peo- ple in Europe and the Muslim world—not to mention the United States—have raised questions about Israeli foreknowledge and/or involvement in those events.)

        In any case, what Joffe describes as:

        “the other kind of liberal internationalism” what the Zionist movement favors and Joffe defines it:

        The American Empire has no real or theoretical competitors. The goal of the American Empire in the 21st century is not territorial control or the exploitation of resources but political and economic leadership which defends and advances American interests, and which promotes the development and well being of all nations. Given our history and our values, that future lies in leveraging the American Empire in such a way that it becomes the basis of a new democratic international system.

        Ultimately the only answer for a stable and prosperous planet will be a glob- al system that is structurally and morally similar to the American union—semi- autonomous states with secular, liberal democratic systems; where states have both prescribed rights and agreed upon responsibilities in a larger secular, liberal dem- ocratic framework; one equipped with checks and balances and meaningful insti- tutions; with governance based on rule of law and tolerant and pluralist values. In the second-part of his extended essay, published in the Winter 2004 issue of JINSA’s journal, Joffe pursued this line of thought further, expanding on his call for what he described as “an empire that looks like America.” 138

        Amazingly, Joffe frankly talks about the United States engaging in massive imperial conquests in the trouble-torn regions of Africa—pre- sumably after the United States has already made havoc in the Arab coun- tries of the Middle East:

        The conditions under which America and its allies would simply take over and restore African countries are far from clear. What are the thresholds for inter- vention? What are the procedures and outcomes? Who will fight and who will pay? The restoration of Africa would involve long-term commitments and immense costs, of the sort that could only be paid for by Africa itself. That is to say, it would probably require American economic control, to go along with political and cultural control. Colonialism is always pay as you go, and it is not pretty. The question is both whether Africa can pay the price (or afford not to) and whether America has the stomach.

        Of course, Africa is not the only target of Joffe and his like-minded schemers (and that is precisely what they are, however, “extreme” that term may be perceived). In fact, Joffe talks of a wide-ranging global agenda—well beyond the African continent.

        In the end, however, Joffe lets the cat out of the bag, about the real intentions of those who are using United States military power as the mechanism for a bigger agenda.

        “New arrangements,” he says, “must come into being under American leadership to provide an alternative for states that are willing to accept rights and responsibilities.”

        Joffe dreams of a United Nations that has been re-made under the imperial force of the United States. And ultimately, he predicts the possibility of a world government, writing:

        Possibly, after a period of chaos and anger, which in any event would simply intensify existing states of being, the institution [the United Nations] might be bludgeoned into changing. [Note his use of the term “bludgeoned.”—MCP]

        Rather than a club that admits all, the 21st century United Nations might— someday, somehow—be remade into an exclusive, by invitation, members-only group, of free, democratic states, sharing similar values. Or in the end, replaced by one. That day, however, may be decades off.

        Should there be any doubt that he is talking about world government, note Joffe’s concluding words:

        The best way to preserve the American empire is to eventually give it up.

        Setting the stage for global governance can only be done with American leader- ship and American-led institutions of the sort schematically outlined here.

        So it is. Despite all the high-sounding rhetoric about “democracy,” what it all comes down to—in the words of this pro-Israel ideologue—is the use of America’s military power to advance another (secret) agenda altogether. Even many of those grass-roots American flag-wavers (who may be genuine patriots) who relish the concept of an American empire may find Joffe’s concepts somewhat different from what they otherwise might perceive.

        But here, in the pages of a devotedly pro-Zionist journal, we learn precisely what the “story behind the story” actually happens to be. It has nothing to do, really, even with a “strong America” or, for that matter, even with America itself.

        The United States of America is simply a pawn—albeit a powerful one—in the game, being ruthlessly shifted about in a scheme for world dominance by an elite few operating behind the scenes. And, in the end, this does tell us very much about who The High Priests of War really are and what their agenda is really all about. There’s no mystery at all.

        What remains to be determined is what the American people—and all other real patriots in nations around the globe—intend to do about it. The question is this: will the world finally decide it is time to declare war on The High Priests of War?

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        Part 7 Now that we know who did; How did they do it? Who did they contract?

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        Best documentary on 9/11- 'September 11th New Pearl Harbor' created by Massimo Mazzuco, an Italian filmaker:

        ^ ^ ^ Does this look like a gravitational collapse, this is excluding dustified bone that could only be done by explosives and impossible lateral speeds of steal beams hitting other towers blocks away that could not account for mere gravitational collapse, which ZIoCon controlled NIST never even investigated for they said collapse was inevitable, lol.

        Does this look like a gravitational collapse or a demolition? Clearly a demolition:

        ^ ^ ^ Pictured above is our World Trade Center Tower being destroyed by continuous explosions using Superthermite (Nano-thermite) explosives in a controlled demolition and possibly detcord, gelignite and c4. Sol-gel Nano-thermites are categorized as energetic nanocomposites. As reported in the New York Times, hundreds of 9/11 first responder’s witness continuous explosions, thereby corroborating that controlled demolitions were used to completely demolish the WTC Towers. Some people were event killed or inured in the b-4 level of the towers well after the planes hit the facade. Indicating cutter charges at the base of the core columns.

        ^ ^ ^ Did not collapse, not even partially.

        ^ ^ ^ At no time in history has any building ever completely disintegrated without the use of explosives. The buildings above were all damaged by earthquakes. Three WTC Towers were completely demolished on 9/11. Why is our government telling us that these demolitions were caused by spontaneous collapse, primarily due to fire, after finding incontrovertible evidence of military high explosives?

        Physics Journal Publishes Hard Peer-reviewed Evidence of WTC Explosives... Twenty-five Military Officers Call Official 9/11 story "Impossible", "Ludicrous", "A well-organized cover-up", investigate 911 now... Majority of 9/11 Commissioners Now Say Government Lied... 2,000+ Architects & Engineers "calling for a Grand Jury investigation of NIST officials"...

        ^ ^ ^ Scientists find Nano-thermite explosives (estimated at over 10-tons) at the World Trade Center catastrophe. Some debunkers like to claim these are just iron spheres from the fires, this is a lie, as multiple scientists were able to ignite these nano-thermite chips which had high explosive potential. Detcord, blasting gel, i.e., gelignite, and c4 were also used.

        Nano-thermite explosives shown above were gathered from the WTC debris shortly after the towers fell on 9/11. Brigham Young University Physics Professor, Dr. Steven Jones, discovered the explosives and joined an international team of nine scientists for further analysis. Through extensive laboratory testing, the scientists concluded that the samples were Nano-thermitic explosives. After a rigorous peer-review process, their paper was published in the Bentham Chemical Physics Journal, which has been endorsed by Nobel Laureates and is respected within the scientific community.

        [–]Jesus[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

        Part 8 Now that we know who did; How did they do it? Who did they contract? II

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        The paper's first author is Dr. Niels Harrit, a 37-year Professor of Chemistry at Copenhagen University in Denmark and an expert in Nano-chemistry, who says, "The official account put forth by NIST violates the fundamental laws of physics."

        Government and independent evidence corroborates Thermitic explosives used to bring down all three WTC Towers on 9/11.

        Over two thousand architects, engineers, academics, and high-ranking military officers, as well as hundreds of 9/11 firemen, survivors, and family members have challenged the government's conspiracy theory. Twenty-five military officers call the official 9/11 story, "Impossible", "Ludicrous", "A well-organized cover-up". Forty-one U.S. counter-terrorism and intelligence agency veterans challenge the official 9/11 account, calling it, "terribly flawed", "laced with contradictions", "a joke", "a cover-up".

        The majority of 9/11 Commissioners now say that the government lied about 9/11, including its Chairman, Thomas Kean (Republican), Vice Chairman, Lee Hamilton (Democrat), and its Senior Legal Counsel, John Farmer, who states, "there was an agreement not to tell the truth."

        According to a scientific poll by New York Times & CBS News, only 16% of Americans think the government is telling the truth about 9/11, while 81% think it is hiding something or mostly lying. CNN poll shows that 89% believe there is a U.S. government cover-up surrounding 9/11.

        But according to this alt-right sub, supposedly Jew-wise, the majority believe the government sanctioned narrative. Quite laughable.

        ^ ^ ^ Shown above, is more of the "Smoking Gun" evidence, which is based on using Energy Dispersive Spectroscopy, X-ray Fluorescence, and Electron Microprobe analyses on residue from ground zero, which indicates the incriminating chemical profile or "signature" of Thermate, which as mentioned is Thermite plus sulfur to increase cutting efficiency by chemically reducing the melting point of steel.

        ^ ^ ^ Raymond L. McGovern, Chairman of National Intelligence Estimates, 27-year CIA Veteran says:

        "The 9/11 report is a joke."

        Seismic Signals Reveal Explosives Were Used at the WTC on 9/11

        Seismic Signals Reveal Explosives Were Used at the WTC on 9/11, according to geophysicist André Rousseau. Doctor André Rousseau, former researcher in geophysics at CNRS and specialist in sound waves, presents us with the results of his analysis of the seismic signals recorded on September 11, 2001 in New York and gives his point of view as a specialist on the question of the destruction of the three towers at the World Trade Center.

        ^ ^ ^ Shortly after the jet hit the North WTC Tower, Edna Cintron, pictured above, was waving from its hole, indicating that its opening was not particularly hot. How could the fires be hot enough to melt steel, but cool enough for Edna?

        As shown above, fire does not do this to steel; however, Thermate does. The byproduct of Thermate is molten iron--as witnessed by numerous NYFD personnel and many others. Leslie Robertson, Structural Engineer responsible for the design of the WTC, was quoted at the National Conference of Structural Engineers on October 5, 2001, "As of 21 days after the attack, the fires were still burning, and molten steel was still running."

        Thermate is known by criminal investigators as a "smoking gun" when found in the aftermath of fires as it is used as an incendiary by arsonists. Testing for Thermite is specified in fire and explosion investigations by the NFPA 921 code. Why is our government refusing to test World Trade Center dust for explosives?

        Government images above indicate "ground zero" surface temperatures exceeding 1,300 degrees Fahrenheit, which were recorded five days after 9/11. These thermal photographs only indicate surface temperatures, not the higher temperatures witnessed deeper under the rubble. Once again, this high temperature phenomenon is only witnessed after controlled demolitions using Thermate (or its equivalent) to melt through structural steel support beams.

        It is scientifically implausible for jet fuel, which is basically kerosene, or a building fire to melt steel. The only time you find evidence of molten iron, as seen above, is after a controlled demolition using Thermate or its equivalent.

        The “open air burning” temperature of jet fuel is 549.5 degrees Fahrenheit.

        Pictured above, is additional corroborating evidence from a scientific study by the RJ Leegroup, which shows a vesicular alumino-silicate particle found in WTC dust, described in their "Expert Report: WTC Dust Signature" dated May 2004, as a "round open porous structure having a Swiss cheese appearance as a result of boiling and evaporation." If indeed such an alumino-silicate particle sustained sufficient temperatures to "boil", this event would indicate temperatures within the WTC destruction of 5,000 degrees Fahrenheit, which is completely out of the range of the maximum temperature of 1,832 degrees Fahrenheit, determined for the WTC fires using the NIST analysis. However, this evidence is consistent with and strongly suggests the use of Thermite based explosives in the pulverization of WTC Towers during the 9/11 controlled demolitions.

        [–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

        paging /u/ethnocrat

        [–]EthnocratArcheofuturist 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

        I said no. I believe the official story, but I do think Israel knew about it.

        [–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        With all due respect your opinion doesn't matter. What matters is the empirical evidence.

        [–]Jesus[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        And the empirical evidence shows that the towers were demoed and the planes were passenger jet drones flown into beacons.

        Or you could believe the Saudi 28-page limited hangout that Jewish Zionists propagandized. Maybe talk to Frum, Feith, Libby, Wolfowitz, Kagan, Kristol and the 23 other neocons who called for a catastrophic event in their think tank documents

        If you fail the 9/11 litmus test, so may God help you.

        Most people do, why? Because like the two democrats that were sent Anthrax in the mail for not wanting to sign unconstitutional laws, they, the Zionist Jewish Trotskyites will kill you.

        They don't care. They will kill anyone who stands in their way.

        They after all, find Machiavelli charming.

        [–]Jesus[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

        Guy won't touch it because he's probably a Zionist at heart. I'm thinking of just posting a 20 part series on 9/11 soon.

        [–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        If you do you should post one part per day. That would get some more engagement and give the regulars time to go through your sources.

        [–]antireddit 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        Fairly certainly Muslim extremists actually carried out the attack, but the Israelis almost certainly knew an attack was imminent, and probably knew the exact circumstances of it, hence the dancing Israelis.

        Neocons in the Bush administration also almost certainly knew a major attack of some sort was imminent and intentionally ignored Al Queda and these warning signs in order to let it happen. Whether some of them knew specific details is doubtful, but who knows. Id love to know if any of the prominent neocons were at the pentagon at the time of the attack on it.

        [–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        Good evidence that Mossad had foreknowledge and were possibly handling the attackers but I think the most important thing now is to focus all these years later on the response to the crisis. In the end it really wouldn't have mattered who did it for the likes of Wolfowitz, Feith, Bush et al they were going to use it to go to war largely for the benefit of Israel. That's probably the most important part at this late stage.

        If you're interested in the technical details of the buildings collapsing and the utter absurdity of the mainstream explanation then I recommend the videos by a group called Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth. Very detail focused and not at all political. That's the type of thing which I think is good for winning the 'normies' as well.

        [–]VarangianRasputin 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        I think that the official story was mostly true to be honest. You could probably make an argument that Bush knew about it beforehand.

        Either way, it was taken advantage of to the fullest, similar to the Coronavirus.

        [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        I believe the official story. At most, I think it's possible that the Bush Administration had intel on an incoming attack and turned a blind eye, either out of incompetence or because they knew it would be an excuse to start wars in the Middle East and all the other shit. I believe Israel was happy about it, in the same way Winston Churchill was not so secretly delighted when he heard about Japan attacking Pearl Harbor.

        I used to lurk 9/11 Truther circles about 10 years ago. I just never found the arguments convincing. Many were just batshit insane and the product of people who were obviously schizophrenic.

        [–]arainynightinskyrim 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        We don't really know what happened but even if Israel was not responsible they certainly knew about it and chose to not inform the Americans, check dancing Israelis.

        [–]DoubleReverse 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

        Who does the alt right think is responsible for _____?

        [A]: The Jews

        [D]: Non-white people (The Jews)

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          [–]DoubleReverse 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

          You're projecting