Elon Musk displacing parasite Jeff Bezos as the world's richest man makes me happy

submitted by Bagarmoossen from self.debatealtright

Musk is undeniably a genius who creates value and innovation. He's of an entirely different breed from Bezos and Zuckerberg, who are both the epitome of the parasitical oligarch. Both have gotten rich by leeching off small retailers and exploiting the masses' dopamine receptors in a comic book evil fashion. Amazon, Facebook, Twitter, Google etc. are playing a big part in the wrecking of our society. They are billionaires who make the world objectively a worse place. What they envision as the ideal society is a dystopia.

Tesla on the other hand is a company that creates actual value and technology that has the potential to advance humanity and make the world a better place. His plans on colonizing Mars are incredibly based. Also, he's South African and has 6 kids. The chances he leans to our side are high, especially in light of his numerous statements triggering liberals and leftists. The man actually joked about January 6th capitol insurrection while the entire elite class was going berserk about it.

Elon Musk shows us that despite the oligarchic, oriental parasitical class' unprecedented attempts to stifle competition and perpetuate themselves as eternal rulers of a soviet-style totalitarian society, at the end of the day those who create value and actual progress still might have the competitive advantage in a market economy.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/billybambrough/2021/01/09/elon-musk-the-worlds-richest-man-wants-to-be-paid-in-bitcoin/?sh=3e7110dc433a

Edit: look at this thread. He is apparently critical of big tech tyranny. The importance of having someone like him standing against left wing cultural hegemony cannot be overstated: https://mobile.twitter.com/flcnhvy/status/1347584420107137029

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[–]casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter 10 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 2 fun -  (12 children)

Don't be. He's a white liberal at heart, meaning he will never do anything good with his wealth and power. Just look at how he buckled over the pronoun thing and apologized to the lefty mob. That's how weak willed he, and other white liberal billionaires are.

Imagine having a fortune the size of a country's GDP and still bowing to the opinions of plebs. Plus, he's one of their guys. Musk industries is transparently a front for the US military. Treaties signed in the 60s and 80s officially barred the militarization of space.

Tesla is a means for the military to circumvent those treaties. Its done under the guise of a noble cause like going to mars but the facts are very different. Starlink will aid in the military's spying and communications programs. Not to mention the strategic lift abilities provided by re-usable rockets.

Isn't it strange for them to head for mars, but not even send a manned mission to the moon or set up a lunar base? Plus, nothing has really been gained on that front. A lot has been gained on the military reconnaissance front.

Tesla sells very few cars, yet it receives an endless horde investments. I think the stocks are artificially inflated by financial firms affiliated with the CIA/DARP in order to finance space based military projects. Its essential for the US to do so. China and Russia are both ramping up militarization of space.

Both of launched a flurry of satellites in the last decade and the Russian's have created and successfully tested an anti-satellite missile on the Mig-31BM.

So don't expect much from him. He's no Soros or Rockefeller who uses their fortunes to run regime change and social engineering operations across the world. Just not that personality, he's at heart a nerd.

He's also probably kept on a tight leash by his handlers due to his dependency. Tesla is the most highly valued car company in the world yet when it comes to sales it doesn't even break top ten. Its completely artificial.

Plus, all his antics are posts on twitter. If he really wanted to take a stand for free speech. He could make an independent payment processor and a twitter/facebook alternative grounded in the first amendment. He has the money and resources to do it.

[–]SoylentCapitalist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

Isn't it strange for them to head for mars, but not even send a manned mission to the moon or set up a lunar base? Plus, nothing has really been gained on that front. A lot has been gained on the military reconnaissance front.

This is the only point I disagree with but since people have already landed on the Moon, it would be more prestigious to have the first person to land on Mars. This is why it isn't that strange, and going to the Moon is so expensive, just to do what has already been done. Although I do think it would be amazing to set up lunar bases maybe we just can't do that yet.

[–]casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (9 children)

No one has gone to the moon since 1969. Even assuming the official story is true(which I don't believe), it would mean no one has gone to the moon in 51 years. Wouldn't it be more worthwhile to revisit the moon with more advanced scanning technology? Science has advanced greatly in the last 50 years. Surely, the data gathered would give great insights into prospects for a lunar base, space mining and astrobiology?

Its certainly more feasible than sending a manned mission to Mars which is vastly more distant.

[–]EthnocratArcheofuturist 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

Oh good God, you're one of those?

[–]casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

I find it unfathomable that no other country has ever gone to the moon in 50 years despite vast development in technology. Hell, even the US never went back. Why would it be a one off effort? Why not go repeatedly to perform better scans, gain more samples and set up a lunar base?

Plus, how did NASA "lose" telemetry data from the mission? Do they store it in some random garage? How does a billion dollar government agency lose the data on what is perhaps the most momentous event in the history of science?

NASA in fact claims that it has ''lost'' the technology to go to space? How do you lose technology from 1969 to 2020 when there's been a revolution in computer technology, transistors, engines and material science? It should be a breeze to go to the moon now compared to 1969.

Why is China, the world leader in engineering only attempting to send drones to mars but not a manned mission to the moon? Same with Russia.

The reason imo is the same as to why stealth combat drones are far cheaper than 4th generation fighters. The complex life support systems and g-tolerances required to keep a crew alive is too big a burden.

The US might have a ''been there done that '' attitude to moon landing, but what about the other great powers who are hungry for clout and to match the US in prestige?

Don't get me wrong. I think humans have been to space, primarily to set satellites and other research related stuff, but I don't think they've gone to the moon. The Van Allen belt is also another serious obstacle.

[–]EthnocratArcheofuturist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

https://youtu.be/-lh1xY4A6Xc

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Count me in as a moon landing skeptic as well.

[–]EthnocratArcheofuturist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

https://youtu.be/-lh1xY4A6Xc

[–]casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Finally, someone sensible

[–]SoylentCapitalist 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Science has advanced greatly in the last 50 years. Surely, the data gathered would give great insights into prospects for a lunar base, space mining and astrobiology?

If we have the technology to make space mining profitable, it would no doubt be a better option to go to the Moon. It just isn't worth it from what I've read due to the high costs of shipping anything to and from Earth.

[–]casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Well you're right and wrong. The costs of shipping would be great but the rewards are enormous. A single asteriod of 1 mile diameter has more iron ore than what was mined in the entirety of earth in 2005. Space mining will have to be developed eventually to sustain industrial civilization due to the coming shortage of rare earth metals. It won't be long before the planet runs out of it as population keeps growing and standards of living sharply spike across the globe.

[–]TheJamesRocket 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

No one has gone to the moon since 1969.

Well, the last landing on the Moon was by Apollo 17 in December 1972. The Soviets had their own plans to send cosmonauts to the moon, but these were cancelled due to the unreliability of their launch platforms.

Wouldn't it be more worthwhile to revisit the moon with more advanced scanning technology?

Lunar rovers are fine for collecting data, but the the problem is, they don't inspire people. The human element is missing. Thats why everyone remembers the Apollo missions, and nobody remembers all the unmanned missions to the Moon.

[–]md_saidit 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Musk is a maniac and is uncontrollable by the left. The fact that he's not a conservative is irrelevant. The fact that he is an independent thinker is what's germaine here. I'll take an independent thinker who leans left over a conformist Republican anyday. Musk has his downside but he is levels above parasites like Bezos and Zuckerberg.

[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

He's not the world's richest man.

[–]casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Who really is tho? The Rothschilds are thought to have 2 trillion dollars worth of fortune but its a huge family and the wealth is diffused across many members

[–]Airbus320 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Send Elon to kärrtorp

[–]RuckFeddit 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's supposed to. None of these numbers are real. You were given a "feel good" moment by the establishment.