ADL: "Immigration And High Fertility Of Minorities Would Lead To A Catastrophic Great Replacement...In Israel"

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[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

There you go assuming candidates that don't answer to Jews are going to be on a ballot, be able to win, and be able to get anything done if elected. That's a bold and stupid assumption.

They're not voting for a politician that goes against their interests. I had the exact same debate with another user when it came to black voters and Republicans. If a Republican politician wants to harm their community, they go directly to a Democrat that pushes the opposite. Running a politician who says "no more Muslims" will get voted out, one way or another. That's literally what just happened to Trump.

???? You said it yourself, we don't border any Islamic countries. We are unlikely to get a large number of illegal immigrant Muslims.

Supply & Demand. There's not an actual shortage of Muslims wishing to migrate to the West. The ones who are in the USA obviously want to bring family members and friends with them. If that gets cut off, they'll use the second best thing which is overstaying VISAS https://www.cnbc.com/2019/01/08/despite-trumps-claims-most-illegal-immigration-is-not-at-the-southern-border.html

So it's pointless for any Jew who considers themselves a Democrat to challenge. Either the politician gets replaced, or Muslim immigrants exploit the same loopholes used by other illegal citizens that the Democratic Party clearly supports.

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    [–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

    No dumbass. If Jews reach a consensus or close to it, there won't be enough candidates elected who are against that position for it to mean anything. It simply will not happen. It's not like their are politicians running around to represent every possible position.

    This claim can be easily disproven the next time there is an election. In fact, I would actually pay to see what kind of advertising campaign would run on TV. Democrats fighting themselves is the only real way Republicans stand to get elected. That's why this idea reeks of political suicide. You don't run two anti-Muslim parties and expect both to win..

    At least, not in a country where multiculturalism and diversity play significant roles in the electoral process.

    I had a feeling you'd post some dumb shit about VISAS. That doesn't make any sense. To overstay VISAS, you have to be issued them in the first place. If Jews get antsy about the number of Muslims in the US, they would stop getting VISAS. You mentioned "sneaking in" earlier anyway. VISAS aren't sneaking in.

    Hold on. How are they going to stop giving away VISAS? Once again, you're living in a universe where Democrats throw the rug on their own base, while Republicans are right next door and are hungry to seize power away from them? It would fail immediately.

    But I will say you're right that VISAS aren't needed to sneak in. However, don't you find it a bit strange that a non-politician person like myself can expose the big flaw in Jews stopping immigration? This is proof that everything that is allowed to slip past the cracks will happen anyway. It doesn't make sense why would Jews with actual power, think completely different from this.

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      [–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

      Again, with the stupid takes, TV ads don't mean shit.

      I'm sorry but that sounds completely bizarre. They'll make it a new policy to ban muslims, but they also plan on keeping it a secret at the same time? All while another politician runs, has all the free TV time to run their own counter-ads, and thus boot out the imposters that don't represent their own voting base? Again, it's complete suicide for the Democrats to behave one way, while another political party exists to completely move in and take over.

      Change the rules about who can get them and how many from various countries of origin.

      So do the Trump ban which was an unpopular idea that Democrats campaigned against? No.

      The only thing you exposed, once again is that you're fucking retarded.

      The complete Jew worship is something I can't get on board. Had this been 4 years ago and I said a man named Biden was going to win in a landslide and promise to increase immigration, you probably would have told me Jews would burn the USA down before that happens. Yet here we are today. Sorry, but society is constantly changing, and the mechanisms that were meant to stop this have all but failed completely.

      Edit: And I haven't even brought up yet that America passing the Hart-Celler Act had already banned defacto discrimination in immigration. The cycle of stopping Muslims from completely entering the country would take more than one Presidential term to pass, and by then, any such action would be reversed by any future president anyway. That's why it's silly to believe Jews have some kind of magic lever that grants them infinite decision making skills. No, they would have to undue the entire system first, which is just unrealistic.

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        [–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        WTF are you talking about?

        I'm as baffled as you are.

        [–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

        They'll do whatever they think would be most effective. Based on current trends, they would probably either do it on the down low or frame it as lowering immigration from countries with a high tendency towards anti-semitism.

        You haven't learned anything from the last 4 years. Democrats do not want to be the Republican-Lite Party. Their strategy is based on supporting immigrants from all backgrounds. Any idiot that tries to subvert this process with a muslim ban will be kicked out immediately. There is not a single Jew in the world who has the power to reverse this. Not Netanyahu. Not George Soros. The U.S system has to be reformed, and there's just not enough time to do this without it being replaced in the next term.

        WTF are you talking about?

        I'm saying stop believing Jews have a magic lever on U.S society that grants them more power than what actually exists. Trump being in power might have given you an impression the U.S only works a certain way, but when Biden got elected 4 years later, everything went out the window again.

        Edit: Even my point about illegal immigration should have raised red flags in the direction the U.S is going. Democrats are not fighting for more restrictions at the border, they're fighting for less.

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          [–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

          I hate both parties, but if there's one thing I've learned all these years, it's that Democrats care more about winning, rather than offending people.

          Republicans, or Conservatives in general, are not interested in disrupting the status quo.

          That's why the political landscape looks so lopsided right now. Democrats are not the ones who fear change, but they see unlimited immigration (from all groups, not just certain classes) as a ticket to controlling governments. Conservatives are the ones who fight back with travel bans or building new fences but as we see over time, it's losing all effectiveness. Democrats are not going to adopt the strategy they see as losers, no matter what some lobbying group says.

          There's literally more money to be made from increasing the flow of immigration, as opposed to holding it down forever. And we see multi-billion dollar corporations throwing their support at Democrats for the exact same reasons. They know which side is going to be the future winner.

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