Is the Pfizer COVID vaccine safe?

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[–]Wrangel 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Flip a coin 160 times what are the odds of getting 160+ heads?

A number so small that coin flip calculator can't calculate it. In fact if 40 people had gotten the virus who had been vaccinated the risk of the vaccine not working at all would be 0.000000000003091. The confidence intervals were provided in the article published we can with a very high degree of certainty conclude that the vaccines are highly effective. The math is published in the article so if you want to critique their stats send them an email showing where they went wrong.

As for vaccines a large portion of the point is to stop the spread through herd immunity. People don't want people who carry disease around them.

[–]Nombre27 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

The math is published in the article so if you want to critique their stats send them an email showing where they went wrong.

I don't think you read what I wrote.

I can accept that that is the proper way to report the data but looking at that data doesn't leave me convinced, especially since they didn't go and test all the people in both groups, they're relying on a sample of 0.04%-0.8% as if that's supposed to be representative.

[–]Wrangel 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Those were the people who got sick. The study was blinded so the participants did not know if they had the vaccine or a control.

[–]Nombre27 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

We appear to be talking past one another, so never mind. I know what blinding is but thanks anyway.