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[–]EthnocratArcheofuturist 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Cringe boomercon bullshit. What countries have more white homogeneity and socially conservative values? Western countries who were pushing anti-communism, or former communist countries in Eastern Europe?

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism[S] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

This comic was made in the early 1960s, when both sides were homogenous...

And you seem to ignore that the former communist countries had actively persecuted and mass murdered their own white population. Hence why they're no longer Communist...

[–]casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (14 children)

The anti-communist movement of the cold war was a CIA psyop. It was their ploy to destroy the isolationist and America first movement. Getting conservatives to embrace global wars of intervention and sanctions.

Furthermore, it also helped move conservatives away from their identity as white Christians to an identity of '' we are American citizens and we are defined by our allegiance to capitalism and the constitution''

It's all BS. The US fought a war in Vietnam because they feared that a successful Vietnamese revolution would lead to the spread of communism in Southeast Asia. If this region with its huge reserves of rubber, oil, and tungsten fell to the Soviet or Chinese bloc, it would greatly hamper the reach of US capitalism.

And the establishment was never serious about fighting communism. If it had been, US universities wouldn't be premier Marxist breeding grounds. The curricula wouldn't be flooded with cultural and economic Marxist nonsense like Boasian anthropology, Freudian psychoanalysis, and critical race theory.

David Rockefeller, the kingpin of the liberal establishment, during the cold war went to Maoist China and set up Chase bank there. American grain exports kept the Soviets from starvation throughout the cold war. Solzhenitsyn while in America, told some US union workers about this.

"The Soviet economy is very inefficient. It can only produce weapons. It cannot produce grain, butter, or consumer goods in any serious capacity. Everything else, they buy it from you"

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

The anti-communist movement of the cold war was a CIA psyop. It was their ploy to destroy the isolationist and America first movement. Getting conservatives to embrace global wars of intervention and sanctions.

This is going to sound controversial but doing absolutely nothing to oppose Communism would have been a disaster. In fact, I wonder how many of you guys actually read the comic? Because it explained early on that after the revolution in Russia, the Reds tried to spread their beliefs to the rest of the world. Even during WW2, when Hitler signed the non aggression pact with Stalin, Stalin still went ahead and invaded the Baltics and Finland. He also mass murdered Polish officers and the educated class, which shocked the Germans when they uncovered it.

It's impossible to be 100% isolationist in a vacuum, since the Soviets never practiced it. Look at Afghanistan? The Soviets had meddled there first and they had occupied the country for almost a decade before it became America's problem. Or look in Africa, and the Soviets were training rebels to attack South Africa, Portugal & Rhodesia.

Opposition to Communism was not a bad thing, it was the methods and lack of restraint on the U.S part that had negative blowbacks. For example, America shouldn't have personally sent troops to Vietnam. But there would have been nothing wrong with sending aid and weapons to the South Vietnamese instead.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

what if USA stayed allies with russia after WWII, what if USA and Russia teamed up to take over Afghanistan in the 80s?

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

Wouldn't happen, since Germany was already being split between the two new powers, and Korea was undergoing the same process.

Unless the USA completely hands over these nations to the Soviets, but then the Western countries would have no reason to trust them.

Edit: And the Soviets invaded Afghanistan to support their puppet government. America doing the same thing would look like a complete betrayal to the Western world.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (9 children)

USA and russia had divied up europe, including parts of germany. So they were allies at that point, having agreed on all that. Since then though of course the phony cold war was started by mutual agreement, to give each side a boogeyman. Nowadays the boogey men proaganda is still alive.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

You lost me at the last part.

They were never allies in the sense that America was fine with the Soviet's ideology, and vice versa. This is further proven when you looked at each country they occupied. Stalin had even threaten to blockade Berlin, which lead to the infamous air lift to stop the Germans from starving. The Soviets had also stolen America's nuclear plans and exploded bombs against their permission.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

That was propaganda. They were allies the whole time, while of course not giving a shit if their people starved or not. USSR was run by US corporations.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

That's easy to say for someone who never lived through those events.

No, the Cold War was real.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

did you live in russia, and had a hard life including starvation?

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

If I did, it would only validate what I'm saying.

Food shortages have always been a Communist problem. In the West (where I live), it is not hard to come by.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

they had done it in the past too, the US was founded after the revolutionary war with britain, and that was whites killing whites of course. You said: "it also helped move conservatives away from their identity as white Christians to an identity of '' we are American citizens"

The revolutionary war was quite similar. Everything is founded upon lies upon lies.

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (16 children)

This one's more of a novel, really.

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (15 children)

Another based take is that the comic predicts Feminism is a weapon to destroy traditional families.

Predictions usually don't come half a century after an event occurred lol. This is like saying a 1960s comic predicted the outbreak of WWI by displaying Franz Ferdinand getting killed.

[–]EthnocratArcheofuturist 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Another based take is that the comic predicts Feminism is a weapon to destroy traditional families.

The irony is that communist countries were actually far less feminist than the capitalist West. Feminism isn't a communist plot, it's liberal pathology.

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Yeah, in the ones that were goy run anyway. When it was just jews trying to fuck with people they were libertine just like jewish controlled capitaloid countries.

[–]EthnocratArcheofuturist 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

In the USSR that was only during the short-lived Lenin phase. Stalin - even though he had major flaws - crushed that shit real quick.

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Yep, and in Eastern Europe when they were just jewish gayops they were up to all kinds of gross shit which is what led to the uprisings against them. Like Hungary, which had its anniversary today.

[–]EthnocratArcheofuturist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

You mean the 1956 uprising?

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yea

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

Prior to the Civil Rights Act, America was still a patriarchal society that allowed you to discriminate on race or gender. Men unanimously ran the government and several businesses. Seeing women trying to take over these institutions, especially after the new cultural norms told them to stop being homemakers, would have been a shock.

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Prohibition as an example was in 1920-1933, this is when jews used feminists to ban alcohol so they could take over the industry whilst the goys went out of business.

Feminism was being used by jews to destroy white society from the start.

[–]casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

As far as I know, prohibition was an organic movement that came out of rural protestants. They were put off by the decadence of the cities and wanted to impose more moral restraint. The urban Catholics got butthurt over this.

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I don't trust anything in America that comes from protestants and benefits jews. That describes almost every gayop in America.

Even if by some miracle there wasn't plans beforehand it still had the same end consequence as if it was. The law had exceptions for sacramental wine for rabbis which tripled in volume in the first year. At the end of prohibition jews had conquered the whole liquor industry, might have been organic or gayop; either way it benefitted jewry.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Research shows Jews got away with it, but other religious groups did so too because of a loophole. In fact, Churches were seen as high valued targets because they were allowed to store wine.

https://vinepair.com/articles/how-the-church-saved-the-wine-industry-during-prohibition/

But the religious exception not only made priests into bootleggers. It also made churches targets for thieves, or people just thirsty for a glass of wine. The owner of a New York wholesaler must have been frustrated but not completely surprised when, in late December of 1919, he found that nine barrels of wine had been siphoned via a 75-foot pipe from his basement to another person’s seller. “The owner had a special permit from the government to keep the wine in bond, with the understanding that it was to be sold for religious purposes only,” the Associated Press reported at the time. That permit was enough to keep the wholesaler safe from law enforcement, but not from the criminal element thirsty for a drink. In 1920 in Washington, D.C., the Associated Press reported on another such theft. “Church Wine Lures Him From Prayers,” ran the headline. “Rev. J. Henning Nelms of the Church of the Ascension, noted the devout appearance of a stranger, kneeling alone in the church,” the writer notes. “Some time later the stranger had gone and with him six quarts of communion wine from the church cup-board.”

[–]EthnocratArcheofuturist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I'm not in favor of prohibition but you could make a good case that it was a successful public health policy. Liver disease reduced significantly under prohibition.

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

That's not the problem with it, the problem is it was just a jewish economic and power strategy.

[–]EthnocratArcheofuturist 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I actually didn't know that. Are there any links you can send me on that?

[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

My evidence is circumstantial like jew wine being an exception to the ban and jews taking over the whole industry during the period. I've not read a book on it or anything but it stinks of the usual jew stuff, and even if it wasn't a gayop from the outset they used it and effectively guided it in at least a few areas to get the same outcome.

[–]JasonCarswellVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

This seems targeted at the kids that would go die in Vietnam.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

I think that's an unfair comparison.

Does being anti-Islam mean you must go fight in wars in the Middle East? While there are overlaps, holding certain views can still be distinct from actions.

Britain was anti-Communist, and so was Japan during the Cold War. Yet neither nations got dragged into the Vietnam conflicts.

[–]JasonCarswellVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

holding certain views can still be distinct from actions.

True, but certain actions cannot be distinct from holding views.

You don't just wake up and start killing commies without motivation to do so.

Britain and Japan were still in post-war recovery and the ruling class made America world police. But Vietnam was never about that anti-commie excuse. It was all about G.O.D. (gold, oil, drugs + tin, rubber, other resources) and control of the Pacific trade route.

[–]Nombre27 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yup, that's another good one. A lot of what's inside is still relevant today.