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[–]TheJamesRocket 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

I'm calling bullshit on this study, 100%. Especially on the tables for bells palsy, thrombosis, myocarditis, and pericarditis. We know that cases of these diseases have exploded since the vaccination campaign began. A study which does not reflect that in its data is immediately suspect. This is the study in question: Safety of the BNT162b2 mRNA Covid-19 Vaccine in a Nationwide Setting.

The methodology appears to have been chosen in order to 'prove' that the vaccines are safe. Rather than dividing the entire population into a vaccinated vs unvaccinated category, and comparing the rates of disease among them, they chose a much more subjective methodology. They 'randomly' selected individuals who were vaccinated vs unvaccinated, and compared the rates of disease among these sample groups. Thats really not the right way to study the safety of a vaccine. (Oh, and I have no reason to believe they actually were selecting individuals randomly)

This kills the anti-white schizos' argument about the vaccine side effects.

No, it really does not. Not even remotely. The biggest argument against the vaccines are the literal MILLIONS of injurys recorded in the VAERS database. Look at the fucking evidence before you say stupid shit next time. You're quoting an Israeli study with deceptive methodology that trys to muddy the waters about the risks of vaccine injurys.

anti-white schizos'

WTF is this shit? Vaccine skeptics are anti-white now, somehow? That sounds like slander. Explain your reasoning, or STFU.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Methodology makes sense, it isn't random, you have it detailly explained in Figure 1.

Explain your reasoning, or STFU.

More vaccinated the country, less people die of covid, simple as. White people are overrepresented in covid deaths, they are discriminated against when it comes to both vaccination and treatment, which is actual real dangerous precedence, unlike some NWO medical jewish tyranny.

[–]casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

White people are overrepresented in covid deaths

It's because they're older. Old people over 70 dying from a flu-like disease...this is positively unprecedented! We have never heard anything like this in the history of the world.

[–]TheJamesRocket 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Methodology makes sense, it isn't random,

No, it is subjective and biased. In their own words: ''For each potential adverse event... we individually matched vaccinated persons to unvaccinated persons according to sociodemographic and clinical variables.'' Thats absolutely not how you examine the safety of a vaccine. And again, this is an Israeli study, so there will undoubtedly be selection bias in which individuals are studied.

More vaccinated the country, less people die of covid, simple as.

Only because you believe propaganda.

White people are overrepresented in covid deaths, they are discriminated against when it comes to both vaccination and treatment,

Europe and North America have older populations than Asia and Africa. Also, the virus seems to thrive in temperate latitudes. Whites are discriminated in hospitals. They are not only denied ivermectin and HCQ, but are also put on ventilators and given remdesivir (which is dangerous).

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You have no clue what you're talking about... You need patients with similar medical records, similar age, region, etc. if you want to isolate some specific side-effects.

For example in this specific scenario you might come to conclusion that either covid or vaccine give you Tay-Sachs disease, while naturally Jews are more prone to it because of genetics/interbreeding.

[–]zyxzevn🚚🚚🚚🚚🚚🚚🚚🚚🚚🚚 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Serious? How many boosters would you take until you start doubting if it works?
(hint: it does not work, max efficacy is about 19%, trials were all frauds as we see from the real data, after half a year the efficacy goes to negative, positive numbers were obtained by killing off the weakest ones and by natural fluctuations)

Had the feared disease. The only severe side-effect that I had, is that I can see how extremely hypnotized the people are due to the fear propaganda.

Regarding the "science":
Looks like fake data with malicious intent: they are coming for the children.
Anything "official" should be taken with a grain of salt, it is all corruption. Why are we injecting children?

Regarding the "numbers":
They are probably listing the severe hospitalized cases that were diagnosed with Covid.
Note that many of them are likely false positives or had lots of other issues..
The kidney problems come from the "Remdesivir" and many other poisonous stuff that they put in the patients.
All these patients could easily have been saved with early treatments http://c19early.com
Many vaxxed patients were registered as unvaxxed, because their status was "unknown", and many because they were "just vaxxed" and were not counted. So many of the numbers are actually side-effects of the dangerous experimental injection.

In countries where they used early treatments and no expensive medicine, the number of covid survicors are 100x or more.
These numbers went up after the experimental injections, in many places (India/ Singapore) causing the first big wave.

Then you have the additional problem of tainted batches that are extremely toxic (on the short term).
link

The experimental injection cause more deaths than the disease and should be forbidden. And anyone still promoting it should be kicked of the science boards.

[–]EthnocratArcheofuturist 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Anything "official" should be taken with a grain of salt

So evolution, gravitation, heliocentrism, and the fact that the Earth is an irregularly shaped ellipsoid should all be taken with a grain of salt?

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Serious? How many boosters would you take until you start doubting if it works?

I'm waiting for China to release their protein-based booster. Probably one more though.

Had the feared disease. The only severe side-effect that I had, is that I can see how extremely hypnotized the people are due to the fear propaganda.

Most people get over it just fine short-term, but I believe long covid is much more present than both doctors (and people) are willing to accept. Healthcare system is already in shambles, they don't want more long haulers (and hypochondriacs alike) on their neck. Long-term side-effects of covid fucked up entirety of 2021 for me (I'm very fit, in early 20s with no comorbidities).

Looks like fake data with malicious intent: they are coming for the children.

Vaccinating the children only seems blasphemous because you start with the premise that the vaccine is harmful, which I don't believe it is. Main reason why they want to vaccinate them is because they spread the disease in schools, BUT I'll be honest and I'll say I disagree with that thing in particular, I would much rather isolate children when they're sick, and vaccinating them on a voluntary basis.

This Bitchute video you mentioned doesn't show the percentage of vaccination, some of these countries have vaccination rate as low as 10% (Bosnia and Herzegovina has 20%), and I noticed the author conveniently threw Cuba (which has nearly 100% vaccination rate) out, because Cuba comes right after Croatia alphabetically.

[–]TheJamesRocket 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Vaccinating the children only seems blasphemous because you start with the premise that the vaccine is harmful, which I don't believe it is.

It doesn't matter what you believe, the objective reality is that millions of people have been injured by the vaccines. Go and look at the VAERS database. You are awfully blase about endangering the lives of children. This is especially callous when you consider that they are being vaccinated against a disease that isn't even a danger to them: Children are the lowest risk category for the coronavirus, their odds of dying from it are practically infinitesimal. But you would gladly expose them to the dangers of the clot shot.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Anyone can enter an entry into the VAERS without any check or whatever though, I don't know why that is even an argument. Based on real-life experience, worst side effect I heard of was paralysis of a hand, and if we exclude that, high temperature for a day. Huge majority didn't have anything other than arm numbness on the spot of vaccination and swollen lymph nodes.

[–]jet199 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

You are thinking about this wrongly.

It's not either/or.

If you get the vaccine you have the vaccine risk plus the covid risk of myocarditis because the vaccine doesn't prevent it. This is why the rates are so high right now.

And also you need to factor in that most kids have already had covid so they have near zero risk of getting myocarditis from it with natural immunity so their only risk in that situation is from the vaccine.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

No one has natural immunity to Covid. That's why millions of people have already died to the virus.

But that's not the worst part. Being unvaccinated helps normalize the disease, since the virus has more time to survive (and thus mutate) in its host before jumping to the next person.

It's simply a god awful strategy that has been tried for 2 years but is now completely eroding our healthcare system. And since money is not unlimited, non-vax people will have a choice of paying more money for their selfishness, or volunteer to be treated last at clinics.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I was about to say this, almost word for word, plus my novel theory is that Omicron seems mild as it seems is because of vaccination pressure, and I'm afraid if we let it thrive without any external pressure that newer variants might become deadlier again, I think that the idea that viruses ALWAYS evolve to be more contagious/less deadly is horseshit, all living things seek self-actualization once their existance has been secured. Omicron became more contagious/less deadly because its chances about spreading were greatly reduced, but you always evolve one aspect at the expense of the other (human eye would be a good example of what I think, it adopted to seeing in the air at the expense of seeing in the water, even though some atavistic features of water-seeing remained).

[–]Caliban 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

So then if you get the vax and then get covid you've compounded your chances of getting myocarditis

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

If you don't get covid, no. If someone can avoid covid unvaccinated, like Varg, good for them, I wouldn't force vaccination on people who choose to live off the grid.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

Side effects should never be a talking point. Every medicine you can buy off the pharmacy shelf comes with warnings and risks.

The biggest issue is the unvaccinated are destroying healthcare. We don't have unlimited amounts of money to look after these people, while life-saving surgeries keep getting cancelled or delayed because of them.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/health/sarnia-bluewater-health-hospital-covid-patients-1.6315681

In recent weeks, the hospital's 14-bed ICU has been overwhelmed with COVID-19 patients, the vast majority of whom hadn't received their shots. The Lambton Public Health Unit, which serves Sarnia and its surrounding region in southwestern Ontario, has one of the lowest vaccination rates in the province, with 77 per cent of the eligible population fully vaccinated. The Ontario average is 82 per cent.

Either put the antivax at the back of hospital waiting line, or start taxing them extra for using public resources.

[–]TheJamesRocket 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (5 children)

Side effects should never be a talking point.

Noo, you can't talk about the vaccine side effects!

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I honestly don't understand the controversy.

At least where I live, the vaccines are only administered by licensed doctors or nurses. On top of having to monitor patients actively both during and after the procedure. It's honestly a miracle of science that we follow such tough rules and regulation, instead of going down the libertarian path of letting everyone and their pet dog give you a medical diagnosis.

Sorry if those facts upset you. If you want to help, then once again, I see nothing wrong with moving antivax to the back of the hospital line and giving much more serious patients a chance at life instead.

[–]TheJamesRocket 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

I honestly don't understand the controversy.

From your perspective, you can't see anything.

At least where I live, the vaccines are only administered by licensed doctors or nurses.

That doesn't matter when the vaccines themselves are fundamentally unsafe.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Well, people can say vaccines will turn you into a reptile or anything else superstitious. The bottom line is no one has proposed a better solution, so I'm fine with keeping the mandates that go towards aiding our Hospitals and healthcare workers.

[–]TheJamesRocket 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

The bottom line is no one has proposed a better solution

Yes they have. A better strategy was proposed many times over the course of this plandemic. First, end the lockdowns and enable herd immunity to take over. Second, distribute ivermectin and HCQ to the hospitals.

so I'm fine with keeping the mandates that go towards aiding our Hospitals and healthcare workers.

You are also fine with having Trudeaus cock shoved deep inside your asshole. That doesn't mean the rest of us are fine with it.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yes they have. A better strategy was proposed many times over the course of this plandemic. First, end the lockdowns and enable herd immunity to take over. Second, distribute ivermectin and HCQ to the hospitals.

2020 saw the highest deaths from Covid. 2021 was similar, as the vaccines had supply issues preventing populations from having 2 doses until around the summer.

None of the pre-vaccine strategies worked and in fact, they only prolonged the pandemic longer. 2 years and millions dead is more than enough time to listen to the conspiracy theorists. 2022 is the start of more Quebec or French like reactions which means, raising the financial penalty for those who weigh down our health system.

You are also fine with having Trudeaus cock shoved deep inside your asshole. That doesn't mean the rest of us are fine with it.

Trudeau is a weirdo, but the antivax are even more bizzare and selfish. An asteroid could be hurdling towards Earth and the antivax will say "lol that's just Jewish CGI, take horse paste or drink piss and the flying rock will go away".

If you don't want to be part of it, that's nice. Too bad the majority are not.

https://toronto.citynews.ca/2022/01/12/canada-poll-unvaccinated-fines/

By the way, I can't unsee the antivax as being literal cartoon characters. This is the only time pop culture has been spot on with the rampant lunacy we have to put up with.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lg6n9ph20Zs

[–]88BitSorelianism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

This study reeks of data manipulation, I wouldn't be surprised if they had a financial incentive to find what they wanted to.

The Hoeg Analysis which isn't disputed by the FDA, shows that there is four to six times as many kids that have myocarditis that are vaccinated than there are kids that have been hospitalized from covid for all causes which would include myocarditis from covid.

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.08.30.21262866v1

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Using the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS)

[–]88BitSorelianism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

It's better than anything else we have.

[–]EuropeanAwakening14 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

It's a politicized database at this point.

[–]88BitSorelianism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It really isn't.

Can you explain how the database itself is politicized? Or do you mean people view it politically?