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    [–]Chipit[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

    Jewishness passes down maternally; Moldbug isn't a Jew.

    [–]shilldetector 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

    In traditional Judaism, yes, but not all religious Jews follow a strict version of Judaism, and probably most "secular Jews" would view someone who's half Jewish as "Jewish enough" so long as they identify as a Jew, especially if they are someone the tribe would consider useful. Israel itself only requires someone be 1/4 ethnically Jewish in order to be granted citizenship, regardless of whether they have a religious bone in their body.

    No idea what Moldbug views himself as, just pointing out it's not as simple as you think.

    [–]JuliusCaesar225Nationalist + Socialist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    Weird thing about him is that in his older writing he never identifies as Jewish. He never hide that he had Jewish ancestry but specifically rejected identifying as Jewish. However in his newer writings he identifies as Jewish a lot. I assume that now that he is no longer an anonymous blogger and has come out into the open he sees identifying as Jewish as a way to get more acceptance and promotion with the elite.

    [–]shilldetector 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Interesting. I dont know anything about him and most of what I'd heard was not positive. I dont really pay much attention to many alt rightish/lightish figures. My views generally come from my own observations and conclusions. I pay loose attention to a few of them like Keith Woods, but I cant say Woods has ever really revealed anything to me I wasnt already mostly aware of, and I dont really care much for these esoteric ideological debates and arguments.

    [–]MarkimusNational Socialist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    He also prolly thought his NRx stuff would be rejected by anti-semites but the people into that stuff are gaynerds that love jews so being a jew is a status symbol for him

    [–]Chipit[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

    regardless of whether they have a religious bone in their body.

    Untrue. If you've renounced Judaism you're ineligible.

    [–]shilldetector 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    I guess it depends on what you mean by renounced. There are a ton of atheist Jews in Israel, including more recent immigrants, not to mention a ton more dual nationals. Obviously if you are openly hostile to Jewry itself or a public critic of Israel as a permanent Jewish state they probably arent going to let you immigrate, but I dont think there is any requirement that you accept the religion of Judaism so long as you dont belong to another religion.

    On the issue of 1/4 Jews immigrating there. I have a feeling they are kind of selective on this one. If a half black person who is 1/4 Jewish tried to immigrate to Israel they would probably find excuses to prevent that, and I remember reading an article some time ago that alleges they do exactly that.

    Judaism has traditionally been inherently obsessed with bloodlines because of the whole chosen people thing, and more recently because many ashkenazi Jews believe themselves to be of superior intelligence. The entire reason for the maternal requirement is that previous to DNA testing there could always be doubt about who the actual father is. The maternal requirement ensured they have indisputable blood ties to Judaism. As time went on Jews in Europe realized there are advantages to selectively letting some goy elites marry into the tribe, so standards were relaxed, but the obsession with kindship or bloodlines still remains, and in an area of DNA testing half Jewish is half Jewish and it no longer matters if the Jewish parent is a mother and father, aside from some orthodox Jews who want to follow the religion to the letter(most Jews today are secular).

    It's also likely that half or 1/4 Jews are looked down upon by many other Jews. I remember some based half Jews on the reddit sub that said as much and would talk about the neurosis, hostility and manipulativeness of their Jewish family towards their non Jewish half.

    [–]Chipit[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    What is this "I have a feeling" and "It's likely" B.S.? You're just making shit up? WTF?

    https://www.visa-law.co.il/immigration-to-israel-and-israeli-citizenship/

    Clause 4A(a) of the Law of Return states as follows:

    “The rights of a Jew under this law, and the rights of an Ole under the Citizenship Law -1952, and the rights of a Ole under any other law, are given to the child or grandchild of a Jew, the spouse of a Jew the spouse of a child and grandchild of a Jew; Except a person who was born Jewish and out of his free will converted his religion.”

    [–]shilldetector 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    What is this "I have a feeling" and "It's likely" B.S.? You're just making shit up? WTF?

    No, if I'm not certain of something I will admit it, and will even change my view if I'm wrong. There are examples of them selectively applying certain rules depending on what is good for the Jews. For example they have frequently denied the spouse of Jews citizenship despite the law you quoted stating otherwise.

    Except a person who was born Jewish and out of his free will converted his religion.”

    I don't know if you noticed, but I also edited my statement before you replied to include that I dont think they would let someone immigrate if they belong to another religion, regardless of being ethnically Jewish. So I was right. You could still be atheist or agnostic.

    [–]ifuckredditsnitches_Resident Pajeet 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Biology is biology

    [–]ifuckredditsnitches_Resident Pajeet 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    it's no coincidence that Moldbug himself is (paternally) Jewish.

    Ah that explains so much I knew there was a certain air in his writing

    [–]JuliusCaesar225Nationalist + Socialist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    I like most of his analysis and critique of the system but there are flaws in his outlook. There is a lack of what I would say "Nietzschean" quality to his dissent which I believe will be necessary for a future regime. This can be seen in his advocacy for the ideal for pacifism which is modern utopian nonsense and has no value in real politics.

    [–]LGBTQIAIDSAnally Injected Death Sentence 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Is 'Deep Right' a rebranded Neoreaction, or has he moved onto some new thing?