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[–]EuropeanAwakening14 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (32 children)

Old people have strokes. What actual evidence do you have that this was caused by the vaccine? Conservatives are just saying anyone who has health issues and has had the vaccine is having them because of the vaccine.

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (26 children)

People have hard time admitting they were being fools all along. I'm no different when I find myself in such situations of course, but this is just Q-tier nonsense.

[–]TheJamesRocket[S] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (25 children)

People have hard time admitting they were being fools all along.

Yes, they certainly do. If you took the vaccine, then you will count yourself lucky if you recover from a stroke or other adverse reaction.

but this is just Q-tier nonsense

Q was full of shit all along, and so are you pro-vaxxers. You jerkoffs never had a leg to stand on, and your position has only gotten more precarious as time went on.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (24 children)

I'm not getting a stroke and no one in my family or my circle of friends got a stroke, and it has been over one year.

What's the required amount of time to pass after which it's safe to determine that health issue is NOT caused by the vaccine? 1 year? 2 years? 5 years? 10 years?

I guess the new cope is that it permanently damages you or something, since the mass die-off /pol/ retards have been predicting for 1.5 years clearly isn't happening.

Sorry about your dad, but you just make a claim based on what some internet grifter told you. People can have strokes randomly, yet you are wildly jumping to conclusions here.

[–]TheJamesRocket[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (23 children)

I'm not getting a stroke and no one in my family or my circle of friends got a stroke, and it has been over one year.

Unfortunately, neither you nor any of your family members have the luxury of knowing whether or not they will be free from serious health complications. No one knows whats going on in their bodys at all times. If you took the vaccine, there might be a stroke or heart attack in your future.

I guess the new cope is that it permanently damages you or something, since the mass die-off /pol/ retards have been predicting for 1.5 years clearly isn't happening.

I never predicted anything like a mass die off, so that doesn't reflect on me. What I predicted was a long term, major increase in mortality from diseases as a result of immune systems burnt out by the vaccines. It has already been confirmed that we are on the trajectory for this. I don't know what the total number of deaths will be when this is all over, or how long it will take to be over. In the U.S. alone, many tens of millions of people have received the RNA vaccine, which has altered their very genetic code! The various effects from that (whether benign or harmful) may be around with us forever.

Sorry about your dad, you just make a claim based on what some internet grifter told you

'Some internet grifter'? Are you really so stupid as to assume I have based all my research on the hearsay of one person? I have studied the subject of the coronavirus and the vaccines in far more detail than what you assume. I have sifted through enormous stacks of information over the past 2 years, read over a hundred articles, and numerous scientific studys. What research have you done, besides uncritically repeating what the mainstream media told you?

People can have strokes randomly, yet you are wildly jumping to conclusions here.

It is not unreasonable to conclude that my father suffered from a vaccine adverse reaction. The VAERs database shows that tens of thousands of people have been killed or permanently injured from the vaccines. The majority of reported illnesses are related to the circulatory system, with thrombosis, strokes, heart attacks, myocarditis, and pericarditis being common.

[–]shilldetector 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (15 children)

Unfortunately, neither you nor any of your family members have the luxury of knowing whether or not they will be free from serious health complications.

The same could be said about a ton of things were exposed to. Covid itself appears to have long lasting complications even in previously healthy people who had mild infections. Ever hear of long covid? No one knows for sure what is causing it, but one of the leading suspects is literal brain damage caused by microclots in blood vessels in the brain, but yeah, its just the flu brah, isnt that what you said when it first started? I lost track of your evolving conspiracy theories.

[–]TheJamesRocket[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (14 children)

Ever hear of long covid?

Ah yes, so thats why all those teenage athletes were getting myocarditis and pericarditis. Checkmate, conspiracy theorists!

[–]shilldetector 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

A few billion people got the vaccine. How many got myocarditis? I feel bad for you. You used to contribute here, but covid completely broke you. This is literally some kind of phobia with you. This is assuming you arent some kind of disingenuous shill trying to fuck with the goys by spreading q anon tier bullshit and dividing and discrediting the opposition. Most of us have moved on as your evolving dooms day scenarios have fizzled.

Meanwhile covid is still with us. It probably always will be. One day you might even die from it, im sure youll be denying it up to the point they put you on a ventilator. Maybe itll evolve to something less severe, or maybe get worse. Meanwhile just try to live your life and stop acting like a panicked elephant. Many of you covid conspiracists are worse than the covid hysterics.

[–]curious2 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

In your opinion, what should everyday people do with the professional opinions of doctors like Peter McCullough, Ryan Cole, Robert Malone, etc? Should they just be dismissed, and the opinions of the politician-affiliated professionals be adopted without a public debate? Are there any red flags the opposing position has raised that have any legitimacy to you?

[–]shilldetector 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

Debate it all you want. I dont think vax skeptics should be censored, and I have some MILD hesitation about the vax myself, but desperate times call for desperate measures, and the potential for the covid pandemic to have been even worse than it was, was real. They were throwing the kitchen sink at it because it was proving devastating to the world economy, and we still dont know the long term complications of getting covid itself, those alone could have severe implications for society and the health care system.

I think the vaccine has a higher incidence of complications than previous vaccines, but Ive also read the rebuttals to the professionals you mentioned, and those rebuttals are by far the majority of opinion from scientists and professionals. They aren't all part of some conspiracy, and their rebuttals are proving more right with each passing day.

[–]TheJamesRocket[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I feel bad for you. You used to contribute here, but covid completely broke you.

Lurk moar, faggot. I've been around way longer than you. I've been speaking out about the plandemic since mid 2020. Thats longer than you've even had an account on Saidit.

This is literally some kind of phobia with you.

Oh yeah, its a phobia to me? But its not a phobia to the millions of assholes who supported the lockdowns, masking, and mass vaccinations (with penaltys for non-compliars)? You pro-vaxxers are the ones who forced your phobias onto wider society, causing unimaginable damage in the process. Take your fake moral outrage and shove it up your ass.

This is assuming you arent some kind of disingenuous shill trying to fuck with the goys

Nah, that would be guys like you trying to convince gullible whites to inject themselves with poison 'for the good of society.'

by spreading q anon tier bullshit and dividing and discrediting the opposition

Qanon was disinfo from start to finish. I have warned so many people over the years... Don't compare me to that astroturfed bullshit. And as for 'discrediting the opposition', don't make me laugh. This is the Alt Right, buddy. We are the most hated political group in Western civilisation. We aren't going to overturn that by siding with the Establishment. We can only overturn that by exposing their lies.

Most of us have moved on as your evolving dooms day scenarios have fizzled.

The dooms day scenarios were not mine to make. As soon as the vaccines were rolled out, there were always going to be sensationalists claiming that the vaccines would kill 90% of humanity or some such bullshit. You seem to forget that the conspiracy community naturally attracts people with schizoid personalitys and a tenuous grasp on reality. These people always exaggerate and sensationalise things; they are white noise, you need to have some discernment and screen them out.

Meanwhile covid is still with us. It probably always will be.

Oh no! What are we gonna do?! Its only a disease with a 99% survival rate. I guess we're gonna have to get annual vaccinations forever, huh?

One day you might even die from it, im sure youll be denying it up to the point they put you on a ventilator

I'm not gonna keel over from the rona, dude. I'm a healthy man in my early 30s. In fact, I'm pretty sure I caught covid back in January. I got over it in a single day, easy. So now I've got natural immunity (you know, that thing that pro-vaxxers are so keen to ignore). Even if I did get sick in the future from some new variant of covid, I sure as shit wouldn't let those assholes put me on a ventilator. That actually makes things worse.

Meanwhile just try to live your life and stop acting like a panicked elephant.

Follow your own advice, and get thee behind me.

[–]shilldetector 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

You pro-vaxxers are the ones who forced your phobias onto wider society, causing unimaginable damage in the process.

I'm not really pro vax. I'm kind of indifferent to it really, but the shit about causing "unimaginable damage" simply hasnt come to pass, by any stretch of the imagination. It's just you being hysterical.

I'm not gonna keel over from the rona, dude. I'm a healthy man in my early 30s.

Good for you. Dont get the vax. "problem" solved.

In fact, I'm pretty sure I caught covid back in January. I got over it in a single day, easy.

You seem to be pretty sure of a lot of things that are in fact bullshit, so call me skeptical.

Even if I did get sick in the future from some new variant of covid, I sure as shit wouldn't let those assholes put me on a ventilator. That actually makes things worse.

I generally agree with that, dont plan on it myself either, although it's a little more complicated than universally saying it always makes things worse.

So now I've got natural immunity (you know, that thing that pro-vaxxers are so keen to ignore).

Congragulations, once again problem solved, so you can stop bugging us about covid.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

No one knows whats going on in their bodys at all times. If you took the vaccine, there might be a stroke or heart attack in your future.

Of course, I could have one as I write this, but to pinpoint the cause to the vaccine would be total nonsense.

I don't know what the total number of deaths will be when this is all over

Again, when is it over? 2 years, 5 years, 10 years?

I have sifted through enormous stacks of information over the past 2 years, read over a hundred articles, and numerous scientific studys.

which has altered their very genetic code!

Lol, and besides people waste time on pointless shit all the time. Some people research flat earth, biology students have read countless of papers and research about how races are the same, but just by observing real world I can see they were reading nonsense, same goes for antivax stuff, I haven't seen a single side effect besides single case of high body temp in my cousin.

What research have you done, besides uncritically repeating what the mainstream media told you?

I've mostly done research about their efficacy, and guess what, that research mostly says shit that they're like 70-90% effective against catching covid, something which also contradicts my real world observations. It just goes to prove that I don't accept shit uncritically.

The VAERs database shows that tens of thousands of people have been killed or permanently injured from the vaccines

You know you could've added your dad's case into the VAERS as well?

And if there is a sharp rise of these conditions, I would like to see the actual data, longitudinal studies which observe the phenomena for at least 10 years.

[–]TheJamesRocket[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Okay buddy, whatever you say.

[–]curious2 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

In your opinion, what should everyday people do with the professional opinions of doctors like Peter McCullough, Ryan Cole, Robert Malone, etc? Should they just be dismissed, and the opinions of the politician-affiliated professionals be adopted without a public debate?

Are there any red flags the opposing position has raised that have any legitimacy to you?

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Should they just be dismissed

Yes.

opinions of the politician-affiliated professionals be adopted without a public debate?

Haven't seen much of these "politician-affiliated" professionals tbh. There should be public debate ofc, but I've heard nothing but quackery from these people you mentioned (haven't heard about Ryan Cole I'll admit).

Are there any red flags the opposing position has raised that have any legitimacy to you?

Not really. I always had my own critiques which were perfectly sane and I haven't seen them brought up by vaccine hysterics at all. All they've brought up is nonsense like neverending lockdowns (while lockdowns weren't even a thing), population culling, sterilization, tracking, and many other, both falsifiable and unfalsifiable, wild claims which were grossly offensive to the sane mind.

[–]curious2 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I disagree

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Let's grant you that antivax positions were being surpressed for the sake of the argument (in reality I saw it everywhere, even in the US senate). Were McCullough and Malone right about anything at all? You should start doing the retrospection and check their claims point by point, and see how much they got it right. I'll tell you right away, not much.

Debate for the sake of the debate is pointless, especially in urgent and endangering situations.

I would think a responsible dissident would error on the side of not further normalizing trust and acquiescence to an authority that is already allegedly trying to replace his people. But again, you’re doing the opposite.

I won't ever side with nonsense just on the basis of it being the dissenting position.

Flat earthers are also a dissenting side, yet I don't want to hear their takes on electromagnetism/gravity-denial, or see their perspective in school textbooks, because it's clear to everyone sane that they're wrong and don't have any predictable model.

But also, the thing is that flat earth doesn't really affect anyone, even if tons of people do adopt that position. With antivax stuff you're directly endangering others around you, so people have even more motivation of censoring it.

Dissent for dissent's sake is also pointless, sometimes even harmful.

[–]TheJamesRocket[S] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

You are making assumptions from a position of total ignorance. You don't know about the age or health of my father, so how can you draw conclusions? We do not even have a family history of strokes: this was a very surprising and unpleasant turn of events. The Doctor who saw my father was baffled by the stroke, and by his total recovery. For the record, my father is a heavy drinker, but he is otherwise a very healthy man for his age (early 60s).

Medical assessments are alot more complicated than useless adages like 'old people have strokes.'

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    [–]TheJamesRocket[S] 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

    Thats a nice account you have there. Only an hour old. Did you make it just to respond to me?

    [–]socks-the-nigger 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

    Probably socks

    [–]Three_Rainbow_Dildossocks alts: boobiebrother, crustybutt, dingoatemytaco, schizoid 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    The nigfag 'socks' basically jumps from account to account as people call him out for being socks. Pretty sure socks is all of the following people judging by the writing style, themes he talks about, and insults he uses (e.g. calling other people schizophrenic).

    boobiebrother

    crustybutt

    dingoatemytaco

    schizoid

    3JOH22A

    Have fun trolling this nigfag. Also, good job on being banned from that lame 'thepinkpill' femcel website.

    [–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

    I'm happy your father has recovered. That's so rare with strokes. They frequently kill or leave major damage.

    That was a roller coaster read. What sucks is that the decision your parents made cannot be reversed and saying 'I told you so' really doesn't matter when it's family and you just want them to be safe. I really appreciate you taking the time and writing to us about this. My mom and her husband have made a similar decision and their health has been on the decline since they got vaxxed. They both complained of lightheadedness and body aches the first few days after the vax. I was over visiting on the day she came back from the clinic and I had to catch her to keep her from falling. Their pride and sense of 'duty' for society compelled them to continue to ignore my warnings and get boosters. On Friday they got a third. They are still kicking around but my vaccinated Uncle who never really had a lot of health problems passed mysteriously last year. Wasn't very old either. Just went to the hospital with cold symptoms and he was gone. I don't know exactly what transpired and my family is keeping me out of the loop on it but I have my suspicions.

    Well anyway, thanks again for sharing out. I fear things are just going to get worse. I can only hope something good comes out of all this chaos and destruction headed towards us.

    [–]TheJamesRocket[S] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    I'm happy your father has recovered. That's so rare with strokes. They frequently kill or leave major damage.

    Thank you. We were lucky to catch it early enough while there was time to treat it. The paramedics told us that with strokes, there was a 4 hour window of opportunity for treatment. I'm so grateful that he wasn't permanently injured. That would have broken my heart.

    That was a roller coaster read.

    Yeah, and it was a surreal thing to experience. In the logical part of my brain, I knew that my father was in danger ever since he took the vaccines, and that something like this could happen at any time. But to actually watch him stumbling around and mumbling like that was very hard. It didn't feel like real life, it felt like a bad dream. But I have been through traumatic situations before, and I was able to keep calm until it was all over.

    The sad thing was that while all this was going on, my nephew (a toddler) was in the next room watching his cartoons, completely oblivious to what was going on. He had no clue that his grandfather was on the verge of dying.

    What sucks is that the decision your parents made cannot be reversed and saying 'I told you so' really doesn't matter when it's family and you just want them to be safe.

    Yes, thats just it. Whatever damage they suffered from the vaccines cannot be undone. It is irreversible. They made the decision to take the vaccine, and they have to live with the consequences of that. I wish to god that they weren't such stubborn old boomers, and that they would have listened to me when I told them about the dangers of the vaccine. All they can do now is to look out for each others health, and pray that they don't have any more episodes like this. We hear ambulances going past our house all the time, but its different when its your own father being carried out in an ambulance.

    I really appreciate you taking the time and writing to us about this.

    No problem. I actually wanted to write this article earlier in the week, but I was still dealing with all the stuff that happened in the aftermath. My father had to go to the heart and stroke foundation, and I hadn't disentangled my own feelings about what had happened yet.

    My mom and her husband have made a similar decision and and their health has been on the decline since they got vaxxed. They both complained of lightheadedness and body aches the first few days after the vax

    I'm very sorry to hear that. Both my parents suffered the same symptoms immediately after they got vaccinated. They were very healthy for their age, and rarely got sick. But now things have changed. They are starting to look their age, and aren't as robust.

    but my vaccinated Uncle who never really had a lot of health problems passed mysteriously last year.

    Its terrible. Lots of people are just dying from mysterious causes, and no one says anything about it. Society at large is still in a state of denial about the vaccines, and the reckless danger that so many took by vaccinating themselves.

    [–]shilldetector 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

    If a person with health conditions or risk factors they've lived with for years, gets covid and dies shortly after, conservatives are upset that their death is attributed to covid. But then if someone with risk factors and conditions dies for any reason any length of time after getting the vaccine, its totally the vaccine that killed them?

    [–]asterias 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    I know people who got the vax and since then their health declined sharply and even died. No one cared about their medical history before the vax as they were told it's a completely safe thing to do. Any "cure" or drug forced indiscriminately upon everyone is going to have a death toll, no matter what the establishment says.

    [–]Three_Rainbow_Dildossocks alts: boobiebrother, crustybutt, dingoatemytaco, schizoid 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    Recently I talked to some vaxxed normies, while normie-passing as we all do.

    One of them said that he was practically bed-ridden with sickness for 2-3 days after each shot. And he's been 'jabbed' at least thrice. And still caught Covid once. Interestingly, only one said that he had no side effects: an elderly retired man who had just had his fourth 'jab'. Another curious thing is people who say that they had no side effects on the first jab, but side effects on others. Another curious thing is that practically all of them claim to have had Covid anyway.

    And so I think for this younger fellow... what's the point in spending at least 6-9 days (and there will be more as he gets each successive 'jab') of your life feeling sick when that's probably a time greater than the length of which one would have had Covid itself?

    The only people I know who claim to have had Covid are all online in foreign countries: they have all described it as lasting about 5-7 days. So, less than the period for which this guy has been bed-ridden because of three 'jabs'. There are also a few typical 'a friend of a friend said he had Covid' stories: people I also don't know 'irl'. Hilariously a group of five (one unvaxxed, four vaxxed) were supposed to have had Covid. But the unvaxxed one, while still testing positive, was the only one who was unsymptomatic.

    Now, I don't know anyone who is vaxxed or who has had Covid 'irl'. And I'm far more bothered by the reaction to Covid than by Covid itself. The latter still hasn't affected anyone close to me, whereas the former has been a constant nuisance for well over a year. Nothing good came out of the reaction: no reduction in immigration or travel; no turn-away from globalism or globalization. Just the idea that we'll get back to a 'new normal'. So now we have all of the old pre-Covid garbage plus this new Covid hysteria garbage. Another new layer of garbage added to the old garbage sandwich. Now the normie masses are moving into an 'acceptance' stage with Covid, and are predictably waffling about the Ukraine plus climate change, 'systemic racism' and other pre-Covid garbage again.

    I just had a look at one of the garbage Left-wing media outlet's (which, here, is practically all of them bar one) comment sections. There are people there saying that they're up to their fifth jab. It's a demented cult with a thin veneer of scientism: there are even people there comically and unsarcastically writing things like 'I've received my fifth shot today, praise science!' I mean, 'praise science'? Really!?

    It's becoming like those cartoons that people are making about pods and bugs in 2030, where people are up to their tenth jab and beyond, and no one really questions how ridiculous it all is, especially because by that time the jab is linked to your UBI, etc., and life without it is essentially impossibilized. Hopefully things don't get that bad, or if so, hopefully not that fast.

    I'm interested in your first sentence. You know person(s) who were healthy pre-'jab' who have died since getting it; that have gone from healthy to dead in the past year alone?

    [–]asterias 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    I'm interested in your first sentence. You know person(s) who were healthy pre-'jab' who have died since getting it; that have gone from healthy to dead in the past year alone?

    Healthy and young who died unexpectedly and older who had some preexisting (controllable) conditions that were rapidly aggravated within a few weeks. And more people who got sick and their health deteriorated, especially after the third jab. Though I also know an old man who is perfectly well after the third jab and will now go for the fourth without any side effects.

    [–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

    who denied that there was anything dangerous about the vaccines.

    I only deny they're part of some greater plot to somehow inflict pain on humanity because Bill Gates and Fauci are part of a shadowy cabal.

    Considering my own country has basically let the remaining stockpile expire, I'm not even sure what the conspiracy is about anymore. Was this part of the plan?

    https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavirus/covid-19-vaccines-in-national-stockpile-starting-to-expire-as-uptake-slows-1.5860395

    As for vaccine side effects, again, according to data, at least 55% of all deaths/hospitalizations still originate from the unvax. Whatever your belief system is, people picked their chances but the numbers don't lie.

    https://health-infobase.canada.ca/covid-19/epidemiological-summary-covid-19-cases.html#a9

    [–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (11 children)

    As for vaccine side effects, again, according to data, at least 55% of all deaths/hospitalizations still originate from the unvax.

    We've told you countless times that the 'data' is corrupted. Phizer's own documents, forced out by a judge, show they altered trial data. This is a giant cluster fuck of lies and deceptions. I'm not going to argue with you about it though. This thread really isn't the place for that and you've already shown yourself to be a brick wall when it comes to questioning mainstream interpretations. All you do is soak up peoples time and energy.

    [–]casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

    Where are mass side effects though?

    [–]TheJamesRocket[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

    Theres been a huge number of deaths and injurys from the vaccines, far in excess of what the VAERs database suggests. (And remember, this is just for the U.S., not the whole world) There are also increasing numbers of people who are chronically sick, with immune systems burnt out by the vaccines. It isn't yet at the point where we can definitely say it is a mass die off, but it is obviously a health crisis of huge proportions.

    Video: Shocking Findings in the CDC Data on Excess Mortality: Edward Dowd

    New Columbia University “Vaccine” Study Drops Bombshell: VAERS Deaths Undercounted by Factor of 20

    VAERS: 160,000+ Americans Have Likely Died From COVID-19 Injections

    [–]casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    I mean if the vaccines were truly as dangerous as we thought they were, wouldn't millions or tens of millions of people be dead, crippled, or infertile now? We haven't seen anything resembling that and several billion people have taken the vax.

    [–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    There are 8 billion people in the world, 500-700 million whites and 200 million white Americans. It wouldn't be difficult to hide a million deaths. Hell you could probably hide 10 million white deaths easy. 100 million white exclusive would be much harder though. I think they are planning to wipe out more than a 50-100 million white people and a billion plus non whites but they are going to space those deaths out over years and hide them in 'cancer' 'heart attack' and 'obesity' death statistics. It's not like we have honest people controlling these counts. It's VERY hard to figure out what the real numbers are. All cause mortality is up. Insurance companies are showing increased deaths. Morticians are showing increased deaths. Population projection sites are showing a MUCH smaller US population in 20 years (under a 100 million!).

    https://nobulart.com/deagel-2025-forecast-resurrected/

    [–]TheJamesRocket[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    I should take a moment to clarify. There were lunatic out there who were making outrageous predictions about 90% of humanity dying off from the vaccines. These are the same people who talk about reptilian shape shifters and flat earth. They were never to be taken seriously.

    But for myself. What I expected to see was a major increase in mortality over several years, as a result of peoples immune systems being burnt out by the vaccines. What some have taken to calling VAIDS. People dying from common illnesses that they would have normally shrugged off. People dying from cancers that had been in remission. Things like that. We are only 1 year into this timeline, and what I've seen already has me convinced that we are on track for a major increase in mortality.

    If we take the 160,000+ deaths that plausibly resulted from the vaccines in the U.S., and extrapolate that number to the entire world, then that puts us at around 4 million deaths globally. Thats around the same number of old and sick people who died from the coronavirus (exaggerated WHO estimates put the number at 6 million). So in essence, we deliberately killed off about 4 million people for no reason whatsoever. We killed off young and healthy people to save the elderly and sickly.

    And remember, that number was current only as of late 2020. More people are dying all the time as a result of the vaccines. The incidents of all diseases are on the rise. Peoples bodys have been poisoned. We won't know the true death toll of this until some years in the future. Its only going to get worse.

    [–]EthnocratArcheofuturist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    Have you changed your mind on the vaccine?

    [–]casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    I still think it's dangerous and unnecessary but I no longer think that they cause sterility or death on a wide scale. They might've created an insulin-like dependence if people continuously took them. I feel like there were multiple angles to it:

    A. ZOG medical corporations wanted to make big bucks out of it.

    B. ZOG governments wanted to use it to increase surveillance and repression.

    C. Some ZOG big boys saw it as an opportunity to push their pet projects like vaccine passports, digital ID, and so on

    D. Big finance wanted to use it as an excuse to do QE and offload their liabilities onto the central banks and further fatten their pockets.

    However, COVID ultimately fizzled out and became benign as most infectious diseases do with the omicron variant. The lockdowns also caused the global supply chain to crater and they could simply afford it no longer.

    [–]DragonerneJesus is white 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    Phizer's own documents, forced out by a judge, show they altered trial data.

    Would you mind sharing where you've seen this? I want to save it for later

    [–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    https://www.globalresearch.ca/bombshell-document-dump-pfizer-vaccine-data/5763397

    Dr. John Campbell is helpful in walking us through the data

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YOD9drZasM

    Here Dr. Campbell goes through an article from the British Medical Journal about the corruption of 'evidence based medicine'.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZlZIXHT0yA

    This is what dissidents like myself, /u/nombre27 and /u/thejamesrocket have been saying for YEARS on this board. When you have a corrupted medical AND research AND pharmaceutical industry then everything that comes out of those camps needs to be treated with EXTREME skepticism. Far too many people seem to have some type of amnesia where they think THIS time the authorities aren't lying to us about a public health threat. THIS time they really care about us. Bullocks.

    One thing dissidents said early on, leaks showed, and the judges orders revealed was that these spike proteins collect in ovaries. Potentially causing sterilization and Cancer. Official UK data shows ovarian cancer is at an all time high.

    https://expose-news.com/2022/03/11/pfizer-docs-vaccine-accumulates-ovaries-cancer/

    And everytime you hear about another sensational pandemic like "MonKeY POXx!" that's a distraction for a new data dump on vaccine side effects. Monkey pox covered up new evidence that the triple boosted now essentially have AIDS.

    https://expose-news.com/2022/05/29/monkeypox-coverup-for-aids-caused-by-covid-vaccine/

    https://files.catbox.moe/rfie5o.webm

    This distraction play isn't new at all. "PoLiO!!" was probably a distraction from all the DDT spraying causing neurological damage. "zIkA!!" was probably a distraction from 'health authorities' putting pyroproxyfen (a known neurotoxin) in the water supply to kill mosquito larvae. We confirmed in the Clinton email leaks that elites have been aware that for decades we've been causing severe neurological damage to newborns with Thimerosal.

    Does it really sound like the people in control of government, media, academia, and international corporations are operating in good faith? We cannot rely on data from these people and users like /u/radicalcentrist can spout approved data and talking points all he wants but it doesn't change the fact that the entire established infrastructure is rotten to the core. We're talking biblically evil. "These people want you broke, dead, your kids raped and brainwashed, and they think it's funny" TEDx Talk Enthusiast Sam Hyde. Maybe we should have listened to them the hundreds of times they said they were going to do this?

    https://www.henrymakow.com/upload_images/atali-quote.jpg

    https://www.sott.net/article/453851-Depopulation-and-the-mRNA-Vaccine-The-New-York-Times-predicts-massive-population-reduction-but-clearly-leaves-some-things-out

    [–]Nombre27 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    The original 95% efficacy nonsense was based on intentionally misleading statistics and poor data collection.

    Pfizer and Moderna each did a non-random follow-up based on participant self-reporting of 0.4% and 0.9% of their trial participants, respectively, and both their vaccines were found to have a 95% efficacy.

    The Chinese and Indian whole inactivated viral vaccines did a pre-determined follow-up of 6.5% and 31% of trial participants and found an efficacy of about 75%.

    Based on the track record of whole inactivated vaccines (literally every other vaccine in existence, have you ever heard of a widespread outbreak of mumps, measles, rubella or other pathogens amongst adults?) and the much better follow-up, I'm more inclined to believe that a 75% efficacy is the upper limit and that the efficacy calculated by Pfizer and Moderna is from poorly designed science. Intuitively, the difference in efficacies don't make sense either. A whole inactivated virus (Covid is ~30k basepairs) would result in far more greater epitopes (signatures or targets that our immune system recognizes to deal with a pathogen) and thus a more comprehensive immune response than the smaller spike protein target that only incorporated about 5k basepairs worth of material for our immune systems to be trained from. Viruses typically dump their contents within a cell in order to reproduce, so it is possible for all 30k basepairs to be utilized by the immune system.

    Not Pfizer but CDC misinforming people.

    This CDC report counts people as unvaccinated within 14 days after their first shot. No reason for that kind of conflation.

    https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/pdfs/mm7034e5-H.pdf

    s. Persons were considered fully vaccinated ≥14 days after receipt of the second dose in a 2-dose series (Pfizer-BioNTech or Moderna COVID-19 vaccines) or after 1 dose of the single dose Janssen (Johnson & Johnson) COVID-19 vaccine¶; partially vaccinated ≥14 days after receipt of the first dose and <14 days after the second dose in a 2-dose series; and unvaccinated <14 days after receipt of the first dose of a 2-dose series or 1 dose of the single-dose vaccine or if no CAIR2 vaccination data were available.