What are your thoughts on this non white's post regarding systematic racism in the US?

submitted by Nasser from self.debatealtright

https://www.reddit.com/r/YAPms/comments/xm5rc9/can_republicans_be_convinced_to_fight_systemic/ipn272z/

I don't have anything really to add but what are your thoughts on the studies and graphs he presents and what counter arguments do you have against them.

This autist is now crying over the mods removing his post - https://www.reddit.com/r/YAPms/comments/xmaosd/mod_bias_harming_racial_equality/

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[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

My thoughts are you're bad at hiding your identity, since you post the exact same kind of threads on every account.

My thoughts on that tl;dr is that jews can spam walltexts all they like it doesn't change the fact every person I know irl is angry at people in power and sick of the foreigners in the country. Do you know how easy it is now to talk about racial shit lol? I've always talked about how working class people are open to it generally but now it's just on people's minds 24/7. I'm not even bringing things up, or reacting and guiding the 'normies' when we are in the vicinity of a (((tv))) showing a BLM riot, some pozzed advert or film, or whatever now. They literally just talk about it unprovoked constantly, spend more than 10 minutes talking to any white person who is above the age of like 30 right now in England and they'll 100% say something nationalist or sometimes just generally anti-woke. Women I know talk about how they're sick of all dumb girl power, MeToo etc bullshit a lot, for example.

Just in the past couple days I've heard people talk about how they 'don't care if it's racist if it's true, blacks and pakis do like 90% of the crime', another about how 'white people are going to have to give their houses to black people with the way the governments are going in America and the US', and more than one 'how do they expect us to live with these prices without giving us any help, then foreigners come here and they're living in 4/5 star hotels, they're given houses for free, they're given more money than us without working' etc.

It really doesn't matter how many walltexts (including this one!) or gay tv shows and films jews make, people aren't as stupid as jews think they are when the rubber begins to hit the road.

[–]Nasser[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I'm not trying anything, I think it's important we see what the enemy is using and how best we can counter them. Your point is correct that people don't care for Wall of texts however I feel in a serious debate we should have the means of countering the arguments made. This user isn't a jew either he's half native,half latino.

[–]fukit 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

who?

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

I don't have anything really to add but what are your thoughts on the studies and graphs he presents and what counter arguments do you have against them.

If systemic racism was real, why don't people just leave America?

There's literally all of Africa, Asia or Latin America to get away from White people. Yet why haven't they left yet?

That should answer your question.

Oh, and people can't bitch about costs. Millions already illegally immigrate into America. It should be just as easy to walk into Mexico.

[–]Nasser[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

That argument is a bit difficult for Blacks and Natives(some Hispanics and Asians) who have family and ancestral connections as well as that America is still richer than the likes of Mexico. I don't think that would be a strong counter argument.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

That argument is a bit difficult for Blacks and Natives(some Hispanics and Asians) who have family and ancestral connections

The first ever U.S law passed was about citizenship, and it was aimed at "white persons of good character" only. In other words, the USA was always a White homeland. Non-whites were never suppose to be counted.

as that America is still richer than the likes of Mexico.

The issue was "systematic racism", not wealth.

[–]Nasser[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

The Black population have ancestral ties through slavery with a lot of their ancestors having been here since the 1700s, Natives even longer, and they obviously have family here. That argument is not strong here in the modern day and also what is claimed in the sources is that wealth and race are tied.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

The Black population have ancestral ties through slavery

Their ancestry is still originally Africa. Once again, why else would the U.S make citizenship aimed at everyone else but them? They're not considered the same.

Edit: And there are African countries like Ghana that recognize this. They only give out citizenship to Black Americans, but not Whites.

https://qz.com/africa/1757853/ghana-gives-citizenship-to-100-african-americans-year-of-return/

Natives even longer, and they obviously have family here.

Then they can go live on the reserves. It's their fault for whatever happens when they get off it.

Also, keep in mind that they fought wars and lost. They're not victims like the media makes them out to be. Throughout history, the loser tribe would wholesale get wiped out.

That argument is not strong here in the modern day

The only argument is no one has a right to live next to White people just to complain about them. There are plenty of non-white countries on Earth. No one in America has a gun to their head keeping them there.

what is claimed in the sources is that wealth and race are tied.

Iceland is 99% White, is an island, and was not involved in any non-white slavery. They're still rich.

Liberia was never colonized, is 99% black and yet they're still poor. It turns out, the differences are innate.

[–]Nasser[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

The sources state race and wealth are tied in the US, it's not talking about other countries. Again the argument about Black Americans doesn't work as they were taken to the country in the 1700s and are completely culturally detached from Africans. With Natives, the arguments raised for them state the reserves are in poor quality due to discrimination and wealth inequality.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

The sources state race and wealth are tied in the US, it's not talking about other countries

It's not just the U.S. Name a single Black majority country on Earth that is rich?

That's why the sources are irrelevant. They were always poor, even before White people came in contact with them.

Again the argument about Black Americans doesn't work as they were taken to the country in the 1700s

See my edit. African countries like Ghana have express citizenship for Black Americans but not Whites.

and are completely culturally detached from Africans.

What makes them more attached to White people, who are said to "oppress" them? This is an even better argument for separation. White culture rejects them, therefore, they have to leave them alone.

Edit: And illegal immigrants from Mexico have no cultural attachment to White Americans, but they still move there. If they can do that, then Black Americans can also leave.

With Natives, the arguments raised for them state the reserves are in poor quality due to discrimination and wealth inequality.

The Natives get millions of dollars in free hand outs and yet they still can't build anything with it. Why is that? This is the same group of people who didn't invent the wheel before Europeans met them. The fault is in genetics, not racism.

[–]Nasser[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I'd say if you want and have an account on reddit. Try to use these arguments as counters although be careful because that account could easily be suspended.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'm well aware of reddit's rules. The original Debate Alt-Right was there and it got banned.

https://www.reddit.com/r/DebateAltRight/

[–]NeoRail 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Pretty weird how in a "systemically racist" state where race and wealth are tied, the household income for whites is sixty thousand dollars whereas for certain immigrant communities it is over twice that.

[–]fukit 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

This post is basically, Hey fellow white people, what do you think of this post I or someone I agree with made somewhere else. Just asking for no particular reason and totally not for opposition research reasons, and no, I'm not one of the people that continually troll this sub for a couple years straight misrepresenting myself, even though our posts are all exactly the same.

[–]Nasser[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I don't agree with him, I think having counters to the arguments/sources he's raising is important for serious debate. A lot of these studies are used to fuel White guilt and manipulate our people into supporting mass immigration, reparations, hatred for our culture and identity etc.

[–]fukit 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

What?

[–]DragonerneJesus is white 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Systemic racism?

1) Calculate representation with jews included, anything else is racism against nonjewish whites.
2) Calculate yearly government taxes per race and government spending per race. Who benefits from the government? (hint: its not whites)
3) Calculate yearly interracial crimerates and victimization. Who lives under racial oppression? (Hints its whites)
4) Calculate city representation in states today versus prior to 1965. Which race is underrepresented today? (hint its whites)

Most indexes that matter indicate that whites have been heavily under racial oppression in the US

[–]EthnocratArcheofuturist 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The fact that he dares to use Tolkien's name tells me everything I need to know.

[–]radcentristisafag 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Faggot.