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[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (17 children)

For anyone who thinks Japan is a great role model.

They're the 3rd richest country in the world that is still 99.9% homogenous and very conservative to boot.

The only other comparisons is the USA (#1 richest but is full on LGBT, Feminism, Race Mixing and Race Wars) and China (2nd richest, but ruled by a Communist government that will weld you inside your house over a cough).

Japan looks like paradise in every scenario.

[–]ifuckredditsnitches_Resident Pajeet 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

very conservative

how? they're extremely culturally and sexually progressive in nearly every aspect other than some minor aspects of intersex relations.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

how?

-Anti-drugs

-Same-sex marriage is illegal (last I remembered)

-Leadership by Men is still the norm, rather than the exception.

-Refugees only come in small numbers, rather than in huge waves like the West

-Support for Free Speech

-Abortions are frowned upon, if also illegal

-No Blacklivesmatter riots (at least, none on the scale of 2020 in the U.S).

-Many times, Japanese companies prefer to hire locally instead of outsourcing.

I could go on, but Japan is culturally closer to the 1960s or 70s. It's not perfect, but the Natives living there aren't being attacked for their skin by a government trying to replace them.

[–]ifuckredditsnitches_Resident Pajeet 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Anti-drugs

This is the dumbest tangent that conservatism ever went down honestly. Yes drugs can be detrimental when used in excess, but it's an IQ filter more than anything else. Arbitrary drug laws has prevented so many advances that could've propelled our bodies and minds further.

Same-sex marriage is illegal

Gay/trans propaganda is still promoted in the media quite a bit and there's little stigma these days.

Abortions are frowned upon, if also illegal

They're legal for socioeconomic reasons, rape, and endangerment of health which pretty much makes them legal. I actually wish abortion laws worked like that in the US tbh.

Many times, Japanese companies prefer to hire locally instead of outsourcing.

The H1B type influx is coming, more and more foreigners are being hired for technology jobs. One of my cousins actually got scouted for a major Japanese firm but her parents didn't allow her to take it.

I could go on, but Japan is culturally closer to the 1960s or 70s

I'd say it's more like the 90s, still comfy but the downtrend is already set in stone.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This is the dumbest tangent that conservatism ever went down honestly. Yes drugs can be detrimental when used in excess, but it's an IQ filter more than anything else. Arbitrary drug laws has prevented so many advances that could've propelled our bodies and minds further.

I've never seen a good neighborhood that also allowed uncontrolled drugs. It's the opposite. All of Latin America is basically a warzone because of drugs. I don't blame Japan for not wanting to join them....

Gay/trans propaganda is still promoted in the media quite a bit and there's little stigma these days.

That's just nitpicking. Find another 1st world country or economic powerhouse that also bans Gay marriage?

They're legal for socioeconomic reasons, rape, and endangerment of health which pretty much makes them legal. I actually wish abortion laws worked like that in the US tbh.

See above.

The H1B type influx is coming, more and more foreigners are being hired for technology jobs. One of my cousins actually got scouted for a major Japanese firm but her parents didn't allow her to take it.

Funny you say this. I still check out Japanese job postings from time to time, and one thing I see is they ask for a personal photograph to go with your resume. But when you actually go check up the ethnic makeup of these companies, it's still native Japanese people.

They're not dumb. They absolutely will discriminate against foreigners without having to worry about any affirmative action laws to stop them like in the West.

Edit: And even the foreigners they do bring in to these companies they will NEVER rise up in management. Japanese Boomers are already hard to replace as it is.

I'd say it's more like the 90s, still comfy but the downtrend is already set in stone.

The 90s already had severe demographic change. New York City for example was 43% White, thus making them a minority in their own country.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_City#Demographics

In comparison, Japan's biggest city Tokyo is still 96% Japanese or 4% foreign population.

https://resources.realestate.co.jp/living/how-the-resident-foreigner-population-of-tokyo-has-changed-in-the-past-year/

Edit: It's also important to observe the "foreigners" in Tokyo are still other Asians like Chinese or Koreans. We know from basic science that these people are genetically similar to the Japanese and don't pose an existential threat vs say... if they were all Africans who moved in and began to race mix. New York City is far more of a melting pot of Blacks, Hispanics, Asians etc all being blended together and pushing out the White people who first lived there.

[–]EthnocratArcheofuturist[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

They're the 3rd richest country in the world that is still 99.9% homogenous and very conservative to boot.

So "conservative" they have the biggest incel population on the planet. It's an extremely undersexed society. Their women are desperate for a decent looking white guy to bang their brains out. It's utterly pathetic. Wealth and homogeneity is of no value whatsoever if your society has reached that state of passivity. At that point you deserve to die out.

China (2nd richest, but ruled by a Communist government that will lock you in your house).

Typical cuckservative whining about muh big government.

Japan looks like paradise in every scenario.

No, it really doesn't.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

So "conservative" they have the biggest incel population on the planet. It's an extremely undersexed society. Their women are desperate for a decent looking white guy to bang their brains out.

And yet most Japanese still stay put on their own island.

Typical cuckservative whining about muh big government.

Except this is big government that wants to control your every body movement. The end result is always slavery or famine.

No, it really doesn't.

Any other country or example you could name has no influence on the global stage.

And yes it matters. Look at the Palestinians to see what having no wealth/power gets you.

[–]EthnocratArcheofuturist[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

And yet most Japanese still stay put on their own island.

Sure, and how do they act when a white guy enters their island? That's obviously a rhetorical question.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Sure, and how do they act when a white guy enters their island? That's obviously a rhetorical question.

We have a real example right now with the current Ukraine War. Only 2,000 refugees from a White country have been accepted in Japan.

https://www.npr.org/2022/10/29/1127430620/japan-has-taken-in-hundreds-of-ukrainians-the-welcome-for-others-has-been-less-w

Either they're not thirsty, or Japan as a society still values making it difficult for foreigners to move to their country.

[–]EthnocratArcheofuturist[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Are you really this dense?

Never mind. I forgot it was you, radicalfag.

[–]TheWorldToCome 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

"undersexed" by what, your degen western standards where women should slut around?

[–]EthnocratArcheofuturist[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Oh please, just stop with this Puritan garbage. No one here defends current Western degeneracy, but the answer is not Puritanism.

[–]LGBTQIAIDSAnally Injected Death Sentence 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Yeah, his comment is retarded.

Contemporary 'undersexualization' is, prima facie paradoxically, the product of hypersexualization. Hypersexualization creates an 'undersexed' society; 'Puritans' are vastly more fertile than anyone in an 'undersexed' society and so cannot seriously be analogized to today's 'incels' or 'femcels' or whomever. Hell, 'Puritan' Whites were having more kids then than most blacks were then and are today. Of course that's the answer: that was a eugenic society, not a dysgenic one. Fertility negatively correlates with sexualization: high sexualization = low fertility.

With a high enough birth rate, non-white immigration would barely even matter to us today: the need for an ethnostate and remigration and whatever else only comes about because of low numbers that are easily swamped by racial outsiders. Liberal anti-'Puritanism' gave us most of these problems to begin with.

[–]EthnocratArcheofuturist[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Liberalism came from Puritanism.

[–]ShekelPa 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Youre a dumbass.

[–]Mastermustard04 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

99.9 percent homogenous is pushing it. When I vacationed to Hokkaido in 2018 there were a lot of south-asians living and working in Sapporo, maybe one in 5 people I saw there were not native Japanese. The strategy of these south Asian foreigners is to find lonely Japanese women and have halfu children with them.

[–]ifuckredditsnitches_Resident Pajeet 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Idk if you can really necessarily blame the US when the same exact thing happened to SK, Taiwan, Singapore, Hong Kong, and Urban China. And the same process is also spreading to non-Asian cities worldwide, the East Asians just had it at a greater pace. The urban capitalist death spiral seems to be a universal phenomenon, it's basically a larger scale version of the Stanford mouse utopia experiments. Not sure if a solution really exists either that doesn't involve either some level of collapse and depopulation of cities or extreme forms of automation.

[–]TheWorldToCome 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yes they were super screwed after WW2. Still extremely more desirable than the West. Imagine a Western country that was 99.9% white and super low crime, very wealthy without the government actively trying to get you to turn your young son a girl.

[–]TheJamesRocket 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

Who wants to bet their new prime minister will try to increase immigration?

[–]LGBTQIAIDSAnally Injected Death Sentence 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I think they will open up in the next ten years, though some people are claiming that both China and Japan have seen increases in nativism consequent of Covid being attributed to outsiders (a particularly strange argument for China, given that outside of China many think that they are responsible, but the CCP seem to be blaming America and Britain).

I doubt that Japan is anywhere near 99.9% Japanese (probably not even 99.% Asian) at this point. Even if PM Kishida makes no moves towards widespread multiracial immigration, I still doubt that 1) the LDP remain in power over the next ten years and 2) Pro-immigration factions within the LDP do not select the party's next Prime Ministerial candidate over the next ten years. Only one of those two things needs to happen for Japan to open up, since most opposition parties are more pro-immigration than the LDP.

I suspect that the general incongruence between the political classes and the public on immigration (where I am, studies undertaken in the 1990s showed that the average person was significantly Rightward of both the mainstream Left and Right parties on immigration), an incongruence which could possibly be replicated in non-white societies, will mean that this brief increase in nativism will at best delay this opening up. Furthermore, the state of the Far-Right in Japan is very poor: Japan First is little better off than Western Far-Right parties and any other parties are probably worse off still, which puts them in a similar position to Europeans worldwide.

Kishida doesn't have a particularly high approval rating. Furthermore, the 'grace period' or 'honeymoon period' frequently observed in Western states is also replicated in Japan as well: polls show that Abe and Suga tended to have higher levels of approval than disapproval at the beginnings of their Prime Ministerships, whereas this situation had practically reversed by the end of them. Despite Kishida still being in his 'grace period', the Kishida Cabinet's approval rating was reported as being at a lowly 29.2% in December. The only upside for Kishida is that his chief opponent, CDP leader Kenta Izumi, is even less popular.

If Izumi was to hypothetically come to power next election, then Japan would likely see:

  • Fag marriage legalized.

  • More openness to foreign workers.

Strangely, even some Japanese sources refer to Izumi as a 'conservative', which demonstrates that at least some Japanese sources are as biased as Western ones, in that they see everything as further Rightward of where it actually is. Another sign that 'progressivism' has become deeply entrenched. In fact, the previous CDP leader, Yukio Edano, calls himself a 'conservative' despite also being in favour of fag marriage and multiracialism, wanting 'immigration reform'.

The only question is who it will be who further liberalizes Japan: will it be the LDP or will it be some other group, most likely the CDP?

[–]ifuckredditsnitches_Resident Pajeet 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I still doubt that 1) the LDP remain in power over the next ten years

Hasn't the LDP been in power for nearly the entirety of the post-war era except for one term? It seems like almost a pseudo single party state along the lines of Singapore, or Taiwan/SK before the 2000s

[–]IkeConn 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Maybe they'll start killing granny to even things out and save money.

[–]ifuckredditsnitches_Resident Pajeet 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

[–]TheWorldToCome 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

killing old people who are a drain to resources rather than the psychos who kill children at schools here in America. Japan being better than us again

[–]EthnocratArcheofuturist[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

One does not simply kill a legion of Yodas.

[–]IkeConn 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

1 laser sabre would do it.

[–]ShekelPa 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

1 fat man could do it like the last time.