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[–]bug-in-recovery 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (21 children)

Cool, I still hate jews.

[–]EthnocratArcheofuturist 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (18 children)

I hate the organized Jewish community, but I don't hate every single Jew.

[–]VulptexVoluntaryist 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (17 children)

That's reasonable. A lot of people can't understand that not every single Jew is necessarily part of the "Jewry".

Personally I have found that most organized communities are trouble, and the few that aren't will soon be.

[–]DragonerneJesus is white 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (16 children)

Jews who don't partake still benefit from jewish privilege and their inaction IS upholding our suppression.

Maybe that one jew you know isn't part of it, but he goes to the community events, his dad is part of it, or his dads friend is, or etc.

And he is still a jew. He might not be a part of it now, but better perceive him as a sleeper agent. His position in society might prove useful for the jewish community at least once in his life and if so, he'll side with them over you every time.

[–]VulptexVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (15 children)

And freemasons side with freemasons every time, and people side with their family every time, and people side with their religion every time, people side with their political party every time...is it really that surprising that many Jews side with other Jews? That's just normal human naiveness.

And if you can't stop or even identify this Jewish cabal that supposedly runs the world, don't expect Jews to be able to. The extreme Jews who think goyim are subhuman and that Jews should reign supreme are usually ultra-orthodox. That's a minority, and outside of Israel there are very few. Other Jews are not on board with this, in fact they tend to support the country they live in over Israel. Christians are actually more Zionist than Jews in America.

There's a few reasons why Jews are so often successful, and it has nothing to do with a Jewish conspiracy.

In the first place, they already have a head start because in the middle ages the church tithed all the money from Christians and forbade them to do any "rich" profession such as banking. So who filled those positions? Jews.

Additionally, Jewish culture values both ambition and careful handling of money. Apparently Jews also have an unusually high rate of ASD, which actually explains a lot of things and more than accounts for their unusual success. Quite the opposite of most cultures, which value conformity and discourage learning and funnel the masses into peasantry and turn them into faithful NPCs.

Jews have to make their own success, it's not like they have this enormous Jewish money sack that all Jews can draw from. They're just more willing to take unconventional paths. Similarly there are a lot of Asian doctors and scientists and computer workers, because their culture values those professions.

[–]DragonerneJesus is white 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (14 children)

I wouldn't say that jews are very successful. They're parasitic and exploitative. They feed off the energy and labor that Whites produce.

Money isn't success. "Status" isn't success. Power is, and whites still hold the vast majority of power. In fact, we are such a threat to jews that they want to genocide us and they will fail in their attempt, and they will suffer because of it.

Anglos and scandinavians have good work ethics, are on time, follow rules, high trust, etc. Everything needed to create civilisation. Jews have none of those qualities. Jews in my experience are not very bright either, but what they do is steal and copy - they're good at that.

Take the field of AI, as an example, some of the most "known" algorithms were developed by jews, but in reality they rebranded algorithms made by whites, but through publications, news papers, universities, etc. they managed to make their copies more well-known than those they stole from. See how that works?
This is how they operate.

A jewish mathematician made a song about it, bragging about how jews become "geniuses"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXlfXirQF3A

Plagiarize

[–]VulptexVoluntaryist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

Anglos and scandinavians have good work ethics, are on time, follow rules, high trust, etc.

Jewish culture values both ambition and careful handling of money. Apparently Jews also have an unusually high rate of ASD, which actually explains a lot of things and more than accounts for their unusual success. Quite the opposite of most cultures, which value conformity and discourage learning and funnel the masses into peasantry and turn them into faithful NPCs.

You see what I'm getting at here? You guys are naive and think in terms of "whatever everyone else does and thinks is right". Of course you're not going to get anywhere living like an NPC repeating the same motions day after day, completely asleep. Jews may not be very bright, but that is pure vanity.

You have a point about most "Jewish" innovations being "stolen". But you left out the fact that this accounts for the vast majority of innovations throughout all time. How many times has it been found that the genius actually stole his wife's work, who in turn was discovered to have stolen someone else's work, and so on. All ideas are built on existing ones. To say otherwise is just an excuse for absurd intellectual property laws, whose sole purpose is censorship and enabling monopoly.

You have no evidence that Jews want to genocide whites. All the supposed "evidence" is clips of some VERY extreme ultra-orthodox Jews who think goyim are less human. It's like saying all Christians care about is genociding gay people and using the Westboro Baptist Church as "proof".

[–]DragonerneJesus is white 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

Don't be dishonest. I didn't talk about building ideas based on existing ones. I'm talking about stealing ideas and claiming them as your own. That's not intelligence, that's fraud.

Following rules is necessary for civilization and to have a good high trust society. It is purely negative that jews don't do this. Of course it is beneficial as a parasitic culture to do this, but this is not a sign of success or intelligence, rather it is a sign of destruction, exploitation and benefitting from someone elses intelligence and labor.

Jews are parasites. If you want to see actual leadership that build impressive civilizations, look at aryan leadership throughout history. Jewish culture is a disease and a death sentence to any civilization.

You have no evidence that Jews want to genocide whites.

Wrong, I have endless evidence. https://files.catbox.moe/excr0n.mp4

[–]VulptexVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

You know, if everyone was "parasitic" like you say Jews are, no one would be a victim of parasitism anymore. The only thing it's parasitic to is collectivist brainwashing big brother 1984 NPC society. But if you depend on the system you'll even fight to protect it.

[–]DragonerneJesus is white 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

You know, if everyone was "parasitic" like you say Jews are, no one would be a victim of parasitism anymore.

Lol, if everyone was like jews, then we would have no civilization. They can only destroy, not build. They can only take, not give. Institutions would collapse, because no one would trust in them. Everyone would be scheming and cheating each other.

Jews are like a parasite that needs a host civilization to allow them to survive. Without the host doing all the labor, progress, innovation, intelligence, development, the parasite dies.

[–]cisheteroscumWhite Nationalist[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That's the spirit!

[–]JuliusCaesar225Nationalist + Socialist 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I don't know why so many are obsessed with denying Jew's having high IQ and being smart. It seems they think if they admit Jews are intelligent then they can't criticize their influence.

[–]DragonerneJesus is white 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

What if, you know, it wasn't true?

[–]oligarchracy 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Whoa cool it with the antisemitism.

[–]jet199 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

They also have some issues from that high IQ. They have a lot more kids with autism and that's non verbal, headbutting the wall type autism not the self diagnosed trenders (but also the trenders).

[–]VulptexVoluntaryist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

a lot more kids with autism

If that's actually true, perhaps so many people hate Jews because they're too independent. Now that I think of it that makes sense, because the most common accusations are along the lines of "they're anti-social, they're destroying society, they're too wealthy and successful". And their ancient countries managed to fend off monarchy for an unusual length of time compared to the rest of the world.

[–]cisheteroscumWhite Nationalist[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

They also have some issues from that high IQ

True. But, irrelevant. AJIQ is 110

[–]jet199 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's not at all irrelevant. Having a disabled kid is a huge outlay of time, energy and labour for no return. It can very much kill a person's plans and ambitions and fuck up their other kid's chances too.

[–]oligarchracy 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I’m just a dumb goy so maybe I just suck at maf, but if you acknowledge the average Israeli AJ IQ is around 102-103, and you have a small sample of Wisconsin Jews with an IQ of 110, how does that come out to an ave global AJ IQ of 110?

Wisconsin jews are probably German Jews too, not those pale of settlement types from Russia or those orthodox ones that breed like rabbits like on the east coast, so youd prob have to subtract a few more points if your counting all of north america.

This study doesn’t seem to be the smoking gun you suggest.

[–]cisheteroscumWhite Nationalist[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

but if you acknowledge the average Israeli AJ IQ is around 102-103, and you have a small sample of Wisconsin Jews with an IQ of 110, how does that come out to an ave global AJ IQ of 110?

B/c the Wisonsin Jews are actually genetically representative of the Ashkenazi (German) Jews in general, in contrast to the Israeli AJews

not those pale of settlement types from Russia

Well the argument goes that most of those who didnt come to the US in the 1900s-20s (who werent smart enough to leave) ended up in Israel. Immigrants tend to have higher IQs relative to natives of their population

those orthodox ones that breed like rabbits

This is true but just not all that relevant b/c we are most interested in Jews born in the 1920s-50s when we want to explain their current power over western civilization. Jewish IQ is probably in steep decline (as it is for everyone else) and there is significant outbreeding. So, in the future this advantage is likely to decrease and what we call "Jews" are going to be lower IQ and even Jewier b/c the high-IQ secular Jews arent breeding, and the Jewish orthodox are (in other words, "Jewishness Will Become Problematic"

This study doesn’t seem to be the smoking gun you suggest.

I think it is - but labelling it a "smoking gun" at all combined with the tone of your responses i think exemplifies a general emotional investment in this topic (shared by a lot of people here) that i think that is completely unnecessary. I'll explain -

The "high Jewish IQ" argument is extremely problematic for our opponents to make because it is a total capitulation to the racialist/hereditarian view of intelligence. Anyone who makes this argument implicitly accepts that IQ is important, is highly heritable, and varies by race. These facts are devastating to the current multiracial/liberal/anti-white project. This is part of the reason why we rarely hear this argument made - it is usually made out of desperation by people like Jordan Peterson who want to flirt with the "dissident" line, but not actually cross it and get totally cancelled (like Kanye)

So, given the perspective and the evidence, it should not be contentious that AJs have a trivial IQ advantage. If someone argues this for whatever reason, then they have already lost. High intelligence is a "necessary, but not sufficient" explanation for Jewish power

[–]oligarchracy 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

B/c the Wisonsin Jews are actually genetically representative of the Ashkenazi (German) Jews in general, in contrast to the Israeli AJews

Why would that be? Wouldn't Jews in say New York be more representative of ashkenazi Jews overall and Israeli Jews in particular present a larger cross section of them than ones in Wisconsin?

I think it is - but labelling it a "smoking gun" at all combined with the tone of your responses i think exemplifies a general emotional investment in this topic (shared by a lot of people here) that i think that is completely unnecessary. I'll explain

I could quote you numerous times in this discussion where you seem to be claiming this wisconsin study is definitive proof, ie a smoking gun. My use of that term accurately describes how you are presenting a study that doesn't really show anything dramatically different than what we've already seen from the Jewish intelligence crowd who have been repeatedly caught exaggerating unrepresentative and biased studies.

The "high Jewish IQ" argument is extremely problematic for our opponents to make because it is a total capitulation to the racialist/hereditarian view of intelligence.

Not really. The argument is often made independent of race, and the neocons have repeatedly side stepped or even refuted differences in IQ based on race while still arguing Jews are genetically more intelligent.

These facts are devastating to the current multiracial/liberal/anti-white project.

Even if that is true(and I would dispute that), there is still mountains of additional evidence that is equally devastating to their project that they simply censor and ignore, with even more evidence on the way given advances in genetic research.

So, given the perspective and the evidence, it should not be contentious that AJs have a trivial IQ advantage.

A trivial verbal IQ advantage that could largely be explained by environmental factors, yes, but that isnt what you are claiming.

Look, you admit that you believe 20% of IQ can be explained by environment. If there is ANY group on this earth that has THE most advantageous environmental and cultural factors in boosting IQ scores, it is askenazi Jews. By far they have the most accumulated wealth of any group, with all the advantages that would bring. In addition they have a culture that places a huge emphasis on academics and literacy/language ability far above any other group I can think of, again, to their credit.

Given this one would expect that they have maxed out this 20%, and IF that was the case, there are certain things one would expect to see, and we DO see these things. We see higher verbal IQ scores, the part of IQ that is unquestionably the most influenced by environmental/cultural factors, while also seeing slightly below ave non verbal scores, the part of IQ tests that most would agree are the LEAST influenced by environment and the most influenced by genetics. Is this a just a cohencidence? We see wealthier Jews in the west scoring better than relatively poorer Jews in Israel, and before that newly arrived Jewish immigrants to the west who scored lower on such tests but whose descendents saw an apparent rise in IQ scores based on verbal IQ, which again, is what one would expect to see if environmental factors were at play.

You also seem to completely dismiss the point LAC makes that coincides with this, that Jews tend to pile up verbal garbage points in areas that can boost IQ scores but aren't particularly impressive, or important in creating and sustaining successful technologically advanced civilizations from scratch, something ashkenazi Jews have zero track record in doing. This doesn't mean they COULDN'T ever do it, but unlike northern Europeans who HAVE done it, over and over again, it's not evidence in their favor, nor is their continued lower non verbal IQ scores, despite their wealth.

During the early 20th century when inventions were largely carried out by individuals using their own cognitive skill and creativity, rather than corporations and large organizations, which is what we see now, Jews were largely absent. In a Japanese study I saw on the subject of invention, it found people of Scottish ancestry proportionately had a more impressive track record than any group on earth. I believe the English were 2nd. with Germans and other northern European groups also at the top. The English probably CREATED most of the scientific fields we now study, and it takes a lot more intellectual horsepower to create something than simply do well in it after its been established. Full disclosure I am neither Scottish nor German. I'm just a dumb mick who also has no reason to praise the English(I have relatives that would disown me for doing so).

Anecdotally this all matches up with what I've seen personally. Havent been impressed with Jews in terms of intelligence, not even when I viewed them favorably. They do tend to be media junkies, be well read and very academic minded, and to be fair the ones I've known arent exactly elites, but the same could be said of the other groups I've encountered who I'd rank higher in terms of innate intelligence based on personal experience.

[–]DragonerneJesus is white 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Your environmental argument wrt. jews is a good one actually. IF we accept the notion that they have higher IQ

[–][deleted] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

IQ number just simplifies things. There are areas of intelligence.

Asian-Americans are so overrepresented in US Math Olympics team that IQ alone could not explain it.

https://www.imo-official.org/country_individual_r.aspx?code=USA

[–]oligarchracy 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

East Asians tend to be good at a lot of things that IQ tests don't measure, or don't give a lot of weight too.

Let me give you an example. If you took a Japanese man and Jew, and during the test you told them to accurately draw everything they saw in the waiting room they had been in, including a woman who was sitting there. Then you had a hundred people who saw a photo of the waiting room vote on which looked more accurate, and just better overall, there would probably be overwhelming unanimity on which was superior, and yet you really couldnt objectively measure this, despite it being a type of intelligence. Oh yeah, and the Jap would win the vast majority of the time as Jews tend to suck at that kind of thing. They probably arent even average much less superior, but Japs excel at it. There are numerous other things that are difficult to test for that could be considered part of intelligence but aren't measured very well, or at all, on IQ tests.

Some of this probably comes through in non verbal IQ scores, but plenty of other things don't.

[–][deleted] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I bought a cheap Chinese phone I thought was shitty but was superior to a flagship model I broke earlier.

Spoiler: There are +1,3 billion Chinese. If the rumor of high Chinese IQ is true then God save us.

Even Japan managed to achieve economic miracle and was fighting for "world's biggest economy" title in 80s with 1/10ths of population before their financial crash.

Ps. According to BLS data Asians have pay gap bigger to Whites than is White to Black wage gap which is bigger male to female one, lol.

https://www.bls.gov/news.release/wkyeng.t05.htm

[–]oligarchracy 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

LAC is wrong about Jewish IQ being 100, all evidence indicates it is 107-112.

ALL evidence? Seems to me there is lots of evidence that contradicts that, and LAC listed some of it. That doesn't mean he's right, but he at least proves that ALL evidence doesnt indicate its 107-112. Using data from IQ and the wealth of nations, I think it's been determined that Israeli Ashkenazi IQ is around 102-103. It may very well be that Israeli ashkenazi Jews are dumber than the diaspora, but this is still evidence of lower than previously claimed ashkenazi IQ.

One thing that rarely gets mentioned is that due to the establishment of Israel, globalization and the fact ashkenazi Jews today are far less isolated than in the past, the line between ashkenazi and non ashkenazi Jews are becoming increasingly blurred. This wouldnt necessarily affect the overall average Jewish IQ, but it would lower the average ashkenazi Jew as they increasingly intermarry with mizrahi Jews with their supposed low 90s ave IQ and sephardic Jews with their alleged mid 90s IQs. A lot of Jewish elites are increasingly the result of such "mixed" marriages, and I can think of many prominent examples.

I've always been skeptical of many of the ashkenazi intelligence claims, and some have been pretty well debunked at this point. Even Kevin Mcdonald, who has always stated he believes Jews have higher verbal IQ, has stated he probably exaggerated Jewish IQ in his COC series, and now believes it's around 107. I still believe they have slightly higher verbal IQ on ave.

[–]Nombre27 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

I still believe they have slightly higher verbal IQ on ave.

I think this is where this more specific intelligence (verbal IQ) gets conflated and improperly extrapolated onto general (overall) intelligence.

I do think something is to be said about the extreme Rabbinical studiousness that is within the Jewish community (iirc quite a bit of memory training is required for bar/bat mitzvahs as well) and and how that can carry over to other areas, i.e. lots of professors/researchers would have just been memorizing the Torah and whatever but instead they went into medicine, physics, or mathematics and applied the same type of curriculum that those religious studies imbued to a different field.

In some of these areas I would say that Jews have contributed in a very beneficial way, just as in some of these areas they've essentially destroyed the roots of the civilization that enabled them in the first place, i.e. if they weren't brought up in the West and our institutions they wouldn't be able to destroy them like the fifth column that they've been.

[–]oligarchracy 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Honestly, in my opinion it doesnt really matter that much what their ave IQ is, as it's already been proven that even given the most optimistic assessment of their intelligence they are still massively overrepresented in positions of power and influence far beyond what their actual abilities would ever merit.

What I do know though, and people should be aware of, is that Jews themselves are almost universally convinced of their superior intelligence. It is a huge part of their ethnic identity and helps to fuel both their sense of entitlement and sense of victimhood(ie 'we deserve to run everything because were so smart' or 'they hate us because they're jealous', or 'were persecuted because we're such a uniquely intelligent and creative people who are always just ahead of our time'). Not saying every Jew is like this, but I'd be willing to bet the overwhelming majority are, and they would never believe otherwise regardless of evidence presented.

It's also partly why they rarely speak out against Jewry. They are basically scared of their fellow Jews who they are convinced are ultra intelligent and are always several steps ahead of the goys. So they figure to oppose them is a losing cause and its best to stay on the winning team.

[–]VulptexVoluntaryist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Don't most people think they're smarter than everyone else and deserve to run things?

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    [–]VulptexVoluntaryist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    It's natural. Everyone thinks their way is the best and that everyone should just listen to them. I know very few people who don't have this mindset.

    [–]oligarchracy 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    I realized I probably misunderstood what you meant by this comment. I assumed you were saying most people think Jews are smarter and deserve to run things. What I'm assuming you meant is that most people think their own group is smarter and deserve to run things?

    I'm not sure that's true in the case of Christians. Christians tend to be egalitarian and are taught that all people are equal in the eyes of god. The Jewish religion definitely does NOT teach that. Obviously many Christians are hypocrits and dont practice what they preach, but there is at least the expectation or goal.

    [–]VulptexVoluntaryist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Most people think their own group is superior, and that they themselves are superior to the rest of their group.

    Christians are a very extreme exception, and religion remedied it almost immediately. Ironically Jews are often closer to Christian virtues than Christians anymore.

    I will also say about Jews, most of them align more with Christian values than you'd expect. They're more willing than most Christian churches to accept that their scripture might not be 100% literal all the time, or even that it may have been altered over the millenia. So when one of their laws says to treat the foreigner exactly like a native, while another says goyim are subhuman, they're willing to acknowledge that there's a problem. But the exception is also the most recognized form of Judaism: the ultra-orthodox. They are the modern-day descendants of the Pharisees, who hold to a very strict, literal, and legalistic interpretation. These are the ones who think goyim only exist to serve Jews etc.

    [–]EthnocratArcheofuturist 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    I remember a study about Jewish IQ from decades ago that Vox Day mentioned when he was a guest on JF's show. According to that study Jewish IQ was 115, but Lutheran -- so from German blood -- IQ was 112. Any thoughts?

    Anyway, obviously AJs are intelligent. To suggest otherwise is just stupid.

    [–]oligarchracy 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    Well this is an example of why the claims of higher ashkenazi IQ are likely greatly exaggerated and the studies that allegedly show this keep turning out to be worthless when you dig deeper. Every group has subgroups that likely are well above the rest of their kin. I could probably make a case that the dutch are the smartest group on earth by selectively picking upper class dutch people, or a group of diaspora dutch immigrants living in say australia or whatever.

    Do I honestly think lutherans are some IQ master race? Obviously not, although they are probably higher than average, but if I set out to "prove" they were I could manufacture studies and cherry pick samples to show they are, especially if doing so would get me more funding and career opportunities, as is definitely the case for some academics trying to burying their head up Jews ass by going full jordan peterson on how superior they are.

    [–]EthnocratArcheofuturist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    This.

    [–]DragonerneJesus is white 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    Sorry but I don't buy it. I've seen too much manipulation of statistics and genetic studies to simply "accept" genetic studies that "prove" jewish high IQ.

    First we saw how they did in fact use flawed studies to prove that they had higher IQ. Second, we know that they cheat. Third, the substack you linked is likely jewish himself. Ubersoy is also jewish. Lynn calls jews "the chosen people", showing his own bias, because jews are of Satan and christians are Gods chosen people.

    How could these PGS be wrong? If you have a subgroup with genes that differ highly from the maingroup (like we do here with christians and jews), and you only have IQ studies for the HIGH IQ part of the subgroup, then the genes that differ highly from the maingroup WILL correlate with exactly those HIGH IQ individuals (for obvious reasons), making the estimate of jews high IQ useless.

    Jews control the education systems, the money supply etc, and yes they ARE higher educated, so this would create exactly this estimation that having jewish genes => high education. Not because of their genes, but because of jewish supremacy.

    As with ALL statistical models; BAD DATA IN => BAD DATA OUT

    What would you want to do is take a country like norway or denmark who didn't have a big jewish population, and do a GWAS study to predict IQ and then use THIS model to predict american IQ. This way you avoid what is called "overfitting", which is exactly what the PGS study did, at least that's what I got from the substack discussing their methodology.

    Is it possible that jews have high IQ? Yes, sure, and the genetic studies could indicate this, but not conclusively like you're trying to paint it. On the other hand, we know how jews obfuscate data, lie, cheat, etc. so it wouldn't be surprising at all if it wasn't the case.

    [–]jooMusBkiddin 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Absolutely, it is all very suspect.

    They do cheat, in fact it is proven they cheated on the SATs:

    https://christiansfortruth.com/how-jews-cheated-on-the-sat-and-infiltrated-the-ivy-league-schools/

    “Historically, very few Jews could get into Ivy League schools — not because of “antisemitism” as many Jews claim — but rather because they just weren’t smart enough, which was reflected in their poor performance on the SAT test. A clever Jew from Brooklyn, Stanley Kaplan, changed all that, when he figured out how to crack the test and then tutor fellow Jews on how to increase their scores — opening the doors to the Ivy League:…”

    SAT/ACT scores are definitely considered by organizations which are concerned with IQ such as MENSA.

    https://www.us.mensa.org/join/testscores/qualifying-test-scores/

    ACT Composite to be a MENSA member

    Taken prior to 9/1989 : 29 (composite scores only)

    Taken after 9/1989 : Not accepted

    SAT

    taken prior to 9/30/1974 : 1300 taken from 9/30/1974 to 1/31/1994 : 1250 taken after 1/31/1994 : Not accepted

    Depending on when you took the SAT and/or ACT you can be approved as a MENSA member (a genius in the popular sense) based solely on your score.

    Ivy League admissions is also cited as “proof” Jews have high IQs:

    "Not to brag or anything, but according to USA Today, “Ashkenazi Jews comprise 2.2% of the USA population, but they represent 30% of faculty at elite colleges, 21% of Ivy League students, 25% of the Turing Award winners, 23% of the wealthiest Americans, and 38% of the Oscar-winning film directors.”

    https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4098351,00.html

    The question is, if the data that says “Jews have higher IQs” underlying any research is based on (in whole or in part) the college admissions tests, has research/meta research been filtered for this?

    And why would “the smartest people” need to cheat to begin with?