WTF happened to TDS/TRS?

submitted by send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist from self.debatealtright

Just watched this clip.

https://odysee.com/@altmedia96:2/sven-is-sick-covid-and-vaccine-conspiracies:b

Sven unironically makes the argument that he'd prefer myocarditis from the vaccine over getting a flemmy cold for 2 days every season. The rest of the crew just goes along with it. I heard rumors that TDS was pro vax but I hadn't really listened to them for a long while and I didn't think it was this bad.

It's really weird what's going on over there. How can you spend years talking about jewish subversion in every industry, even making an entire political party, and then criticize people that mistrusted the vaccine campaign? It's totally inconsistent. Sven doesn't really make any concrete arguments; just emotion based rants. Plus these guys don't look or sound healthy. What happened to the toughness inherent in our alt right ideology? For me it's still there but clearly not for TDS. The dissident right has appeal because of the implicit stoicism and antifragility mindset. These guys remind me cackling coffee talk hypochondriac yentas. Mike Enoch is fully away of seedoil dangers, sugar, goy slop, and has talked for years about getting healthier yet he looks almost no different than when he started podcasting. Shame. And I really supported these guys for years? (Please tell me that there's some push back at TRS? Surely Warren Balogh isn't going along with this)

Any other recommendations for dissident podcast networks?

edit. Looks like some of their subs are upset as well.

https://i.postimg.cc/QdD4FCZN/1676188128930722.png

From this thread: https://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/415838732

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[–]EuropeanAwakening14 8 insightful - 3 fun8 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 3 fun -  (6 children)

Because you care more about being anti Vax and seed oils then actually forming pro white organizations that's why. Your post proves their point. If your main litmus test for a White Nationalist is their position on vaccines, you've lost the plot.

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist[S] 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

TDS doesn't have a monopoly on white organization. Let's start there. Furthermore, what's the point in white organization if our new 'leadership' is sickly and looks the other way when the Jewish for profit medical industry sterilizes or maims us? Clown world excuses aside, being permanently weak and sick is dysgenic and a sign of poor character. Being wrong about Jewish medical industry attacks on the white populace is deadly for our people. Fuck that. Are you impaired? Are you unaware of Jewish involvement in medical exploitation? This was a huge part of Hitler's campaign against Wiemar Jews. NS wrote children's books warning the population about Jewish medical malpractice. I'd be willing to look the other way on some things in order to form white leadership. We need it bad. No pro white political party is going to be perfect. Nevertheless, if this misguided podcast crew is the only alternative, I endorse a leaderless movement. With all due respect, it's a shame you've been around this forum so long and support such obvious nonsense.

[–]wristaction 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

What were they wrong about, though?

[–]jet199 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

If there was a vaccine against black sperm would you give it to your daughters?

[–]EthnocratArcheofuturist 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Yes.

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist[S] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Not if it was handed out for free by jews.

[–]Airbus320 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Yes

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (8 children)

He's right when he said Fox News co-opted the conspiracy, and told their followers to drink the fish tank cleaner and all other schizo nonsense.

[–]DragonerneJesus is white 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

ivm and hcq work effectively against covid. D vitamin and zinc too (taken together). Lots of studies and metastudies proving this

[–]Airbus320 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

Go hug Ukraine

[–]DragonerneJesus is white 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

jew

[–]Airbus320 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Pagan

[–]DragonerneJesus is white 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

At least I'm white

[–]Airbus320 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Your grandchildren not

[–]wristaction 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

So? I got through covid with chicken soup and rest.

By the time you've developed a whole presentation about the effectiveness of and the government's corrupt banning of IVM and HCQ, you're lost in a secondary rabbit hole in the belly of a jewish plot.

[–]DragonerneJesus is white 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Everyone can easily buy ivm and it's cheap too.

[–]ifuckredditsnitches_Resident Pajeet 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Surely Warren Balogh isn't going along with this

Checked his telegram and it looks like he does forward some vaccine skeptical posts here and there. Personally I think they're just trying to be contrarian against the right so they look more "intelligent". Which is retarded because literally every single normie that's even slightly anti System either regrets or avoided the MRNA shot. So by not talking about that stuff they're shrinking their pool of influence not growing it. Though I think their model at this point is getting money from an established audience over growth.

[–]oligarchracy 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Which is retarded because literally every single normie that's even slightly anti System either regrets or avoided the MRNA shot.

Thats not really true. Most viewed the issue as largely irrelevant aside from some healthy skepticism. The ones obsessed with the issue were generally lolberts, scientifically illiterate conservatards, borderline hypochondriacs, and people being intentionally subversive or grifters trying to cash in on anti vax hysteria or avoid antagonizing their audience.

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Personally I think they're just trying to be contrarian against the right so they look more "intelligent"

You might be onto something here. Looks like they do it all for the 'bantz' which is a shame. Why is it that everyone involved in radio/podcast format for too long become some version of a 'shock jock' type figure?

Which is retarded because literally every single normie that's even slightly anti System either regrets or avoided the MRNA shot.

This is increasing recently as well.

[–]wristaction 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Covid's over though. Now they're trying to do WWIII.

I was mad when I had to disavow Trump. I had devoted so much brainspace to Trump-Russia analysis and suddenly no use for it. But Trump is a piece of shit and Covid is over.

[–]iamonlyoneman 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

IDK who any of these people are but if you don't like their current content style just tune them out eh

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

I haven't consistently watched them for years but they're not just content creaters. They are a podcast network that also created/hosts a nascent pro white political party called the National Justice Party. Therefore, what they say has some bearing on leadership in the pro white political sphere. I'd have no problem with their bad takes if they weren't so closely associated with NJP whom I still support. I hope that if they keep having such bad takes they decouple themselves from the party.

[–]wristaction 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

They aren't "closely associated" with NJP. The individual you're suggesting should step aside to allay the offence you take from his position is literally the NJP's founding Chairman.

Go start a Covid party or some shit.

[–]TheWorldToCome 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

They seem to be out of touch with the majority of their base which is skeptical of anything mainstream mostly including medicine. They shit on Christianity and "conspiritards" which is a huge portion of their current base and the people they want to follow them. Extremely cringe take by Sven, who has been annoying for years now

[–]oligarchracy 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I would never trust anyone who would dumb down or change his views in order to please some audience or appeal to a greater group of people like all these conservative Inc grifters that continue to peddle vague covid vax conspiracies. There's a difference between genuine dissidents who believe in conspiracies when the evidence and logic warrants it, and these conspiracy hobbyists that simply glob on to any movement that will pretend to accept their pet conspiracy theories, some of which are intentionally spread by Jewish shills in order to sow discord and discredit critics.

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

vague covid vax conspiracies

There is a growing body of hard and overwhelming anecdotal data that the vaccines are dangerous. All the people behind the vax are anti white Jews or WEF types that have multiple anti white projects. All the wrong people promoted the vax and all the wrong people profited from it. Calling the vaccine pushback a 'vague conspiracy' is incredibly misguided and wrong.

[–]oligarchracy 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

There is a growing body of hard and overwhelming anecdotal data that the vaccines are dangerous.

Tell me what percentage of people who have taken the vaccine died from it? 20%? 10%? 2%? .02%? .002%? .0002%? The vaccines been out for 2 years now. I want to know what you claim the actual percentage is, because we have a test sample of over 5 billion to go by and its been 2 years since the vax rolled out.

All the people behind the vax are anti white Jews or WEF types that have multiple anti white projects.

ALL of them huh. So anti white Jews plotted to kill Jews en masse, at a greater rate than non Jewish whites since they have a way higher vax rate, because why? You understand this has always been the problem with the covid vaccines are a Jewish plot claim right? Same with the elites. They have taken the vax at a far greater rate than the trailer park bubbas.

Calling the vaccine pushback a 'vague conspiracy' is incredibly misguided and wrong.

Depends on what you mean by vaccine pushback. You can think the vaccines arent sufficiently safe or tested enough for your own personal liking without claiming they were part of some conspiracy to depopulate the planet or whatever the fuck the constantly evolving conspiracy flavor of the month is at the moment.

[–]wristaction 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

They shit on Christianity and "conspiritards" which is a huge portion of their current base ...

If the Christians and Conspiritards enjoy hearing it, who are you to say they shouldn't?

... and the people they want to follow them.

You don't know who they want to follow them.

[–]TrabWhite Nationalist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

Sven is just mad he is sick but the real issue is how the vax is being this divisive in pro-White spheres.

Who gives a shit if anyone from TDS took the vax, that has zero effect on their stances on White advocacy

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist[S] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

that has zero effect on their stances on White advocacy

I use to think the same, but this is a huge issue to be wrong about.

[–]TrabWhite Nationalist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

How so, I have no problems working with someone who is vaxxed

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

A white advocacy political party knowing or unknowingly pushing a Jewish vax that kills or maims whites is not good for our people. Working with people is one thing. Having it be an implicit part of a party platform is another. It influences members.

[–]wristaction 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

They didn't endorse the vaccine in the clip you presented. Where did you see this?

[–]wristaction 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I follow a guy who took the vax because his ex moved across the border to Canada with his daughter.

He wasn't wrong about covid. He complied because the risk was not enough to overcome his duty to be in his daughter's life. However, he lost followers who believed apparently that he should've forsaken that duty to virtue-signal about the vaccine.

[–]DragonerneJesus is white 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

It's so stupid. They want to depopulate the earth and genocide whites, but somehow you want to take their jewish vaccine? a vaccine they forced on whites. A vaccine that doesnt stop transmission, infection, etc. A vaccine we know not much about but which they shut down all western countries to force us into taking.

Somehow you think being neutral on the vaccine is pro-white.

[–]TrabWhite Nationalist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

but somehow you want to take their jewish vaccine

I didn't take it for the reasons you mentioned (doesn't stop transmission). If the vaccine's goal to depopulate and genocide then why are Jews some of the most vaxxed groups?

Somehow you think being neutral on the vaccine is pro-white.

It is because if you let the fact someone took the vaccine as a reason not to stand with them/work with them then you're retarded. Better off in schizo /pol/ threads

[–]DragonerneJesus is white 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It is because if you let the fact someone took the vaccine as a reason not to stand with them/work with them then you're retarded

There's a difference between having taken the vax and promoting it

[–]lolikon69 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

The vax is safe. get your Qoomer bullshit out of here.

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist[S] 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Back up your bags boys. 'lolikon69' says the vax is safe.

[–]asterias 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The question here is why don't they feel the same about the common flu shot. Perhaps it's some kind of strategy to focus on the covid shot right now. In any case, covid and flu type A and type B are grouped together in testing.

[–]wristaction 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Covid is one aspect of Jewish control. It's a thing they tried and it's done. Maybe they'll do it again. It's not the big picture. They're doing all sorts of other stuff right now at home and abroad and there needs to be space left for all of that stuff.

[–]WhiteZealotWhite Nationalist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Sven should consider the possibility that his wife secretly got vaxxed and now he's suffering with the effects of having sex with a vaxxed person on a regular basis.

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Lol. I didn't even think about that but it's a real possibility.