Have the Native Americans ever called for total separation from Western countries?

submitted by radicalcentristNational Centrism from self.debatealtright

The media and all of academia love to portray the Natives as being a group of eternally oppressed people ever since the first Europeans showed up on their shores.

And sure, while I could sympathize with the idea that "Natives lived here first", it does seem kind of strange that I never saw any modern movement from these communities to declare total independence from their European colonies.

And by independence, I'm not talking about the Reserves they live on that enjoy special privileges' like not paying taxes.

I'm talking about declaring their own statehood with their own governments, education system, infrastructure etc.

This should be a slamdunk answer, especially when we have other examples of ethnic groups who believe in independence. Such as the Palestinians who want nothing to do with the Israelis. Or Tibetans who don't want to live under Chinese rule.

But in places like Canada or the U.S, I've never heard of Native Indians trying to distance themselves from our governments.

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[–]Blackbrownfreestuff 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

They are too busy littering their reservations with cans of budweiser and fucking their sister. Seriously though, once again, you ask a question you already know the answer to. You already know how the oppression industrial complex works. China and Israel don't give these groups massive amounts of victim capital.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Seriously though, once again, you ask a question you already know the answer to.

I wanted to give them the honest benefit of the doubt.

There have been times where Western Authorities have violated their land even up into recent times (a big one happened in Canada in the 1990s, where a golf course was being pushed next to their territory) so if they were legitimately being cheated out of independence then it's fair to want to change that.

There's also many Native groups and it might have been unfair to group them all together not knowing what their individual situation is like. It would be like looking at Europe and trying to compare the various occupations of Ireland, Ukraine, Gibraltar etc. Just because they're the same people genetically, might not mean the circumstances are still equal...

I'm not a hateful person, so I genuinely want the Native Americans to feel free if there was something getting in the way of that. But if there was not a single attempt on their end to separate then of course, I would find that news disappointing.

China and Israel don't give these groups massive amounts of victim capital.

In Israel's case, they are brutal dicks, but it's not true they don't also give them free stuff from time to time.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/as-gaza-hospitals-suffer-shortages-hamas-said-to-refuse-israeli-medical-aid/

Of course, the Palestinians still prefer having nothing to do with Israel if given the choice.

[–]ifuckredditsnitches_Resident Pajeet 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Not since the last wild tribes were subdued. They're zoo animals now.

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

That's very sad news, tbh.

Every race deserves a dignified life.

What these Native Indians also don't realize is that once White people are gone, their new "hosts" will be even less nice.

The Chinese or Hispanics could easily walk up to their reserves and grab them, without any fear of past guilt stopping them.

[–]ifuckredditsnitches_Resident Pajeet 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

idt whites will ever be depleted from elite ranks, just the working class

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

There was an old Strike and Mike about the American Indian Federation but the Zencast is down. It was good but Striker said he'd write a full article on it. He still hasn't I don't think but someone might have the recording somewhere.

https://therightstuff.biz/2020/12/01/strike-mike-episode-139-avoiding-traps/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Indian_Federation

[–]radicalcentristNational Centrism[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Thanks for sharing those links. I'll have a look at them soon.

[–]rorymory 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

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