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[–]Tums_is_Smut_bkwrds 41 insightful - 5 fun41 insightful - 4 fun42 insightful - 5 fun -  (50 children)

Any free speech platform that limits speech is patently NOT free speech. Ruqqus is pulling this shit right now and, like on Saidit, it's just tiresome and off putting. The search for the next Reddit continues.

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    [–][deleted] 26 insightful - 7 fun26 insightful - 6 fun27 insightful - 7 fun -  (12 children)

    What kind of LOSERS do you not want to "associate" with? Are you saying you are bigoted against people who have different views than yours? I guess you really DON'T like free speech after all, correct?

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      [–][deleted] 18 insightful - 4 fun18 insightful - 3 fun19 insightful - 4 fun -  (8 children)

      Bow down as much as you want to your masters and owners, goy. But do so from an informed standpoint: https://www.bitchute.com/video/SpjbobMPSa1d/

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        [–][deleted] 13 insightful - 3 fun13 insightful - 2 fun14 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

        Well if you "don't give a shit" then why are you commenting in this thread?

        Your "life" is so great that you don't care that you are somebody else's property? An actual slave?

        Wait, you must be a Jew.

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          [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

          Wait, you actually DON'T KNOW?

          OK let me walk you through it, very sloooooowly:

          1. Jews concentrated themselves in banking over the centuries, financing both sides of ... pretty much every single war that ever mattered.
          2. Jews created CENTRAL banking, which are privately-owned (by Jews of course!) banks that have your country borrow the money they would normally print themselves, from that Jew-owned central bank.
          3. YOU as a citizen, are on the hook for these fortunes your politicians borrow IN YOUR NAME and then proceed to waste on things you never wanted, asked for, voted for, and mostly things you specifically DON'T want.
          4. This is all part and parcel of a grand Jewish plan, outlined in many places, but also in the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, among others, to enslave all non-Jews. Here, have a look starting at 14:27 or so, where ANTI-ZIONIST Jews explain how all non-Jews are meant to be their slaves: https://www.bitchute.com/video/SpjbobMPSa1d

          So either you know all this already AND YOU ARE A JEW or your ignorance is like the Titanic: it is being shattered but will sink only after some time.

          [–]SeasideLimbs 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

          Wait, so... You went to a website that specifically seeks to provide a space for any kind of community (within the confines of the law) and you're complaining about... there being a variety of communities? You don't wanna "associate with these losers," but what are the specifications for that? You likely use Youtube, which hosts a lot of Flat-earth Theory videos that are just a few keystrokes away at any given moment. Do you associate with flat-earthers?

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            [–]SeasideLimbs 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

            No, I'd actually agree with you to some degree. The solution is where we might differ. As it stands right now, the visibility of antisemites is a consequence of the rules of this site, which are pretty carefully chosen and pretty good. In my personal opinion, I think that rather than banning antisemites or changing the rules, the solution to this will be that as more content appears on this site that isn't antisemitic (or even political at all, such as content in s/funny, s/art or s/aww,) antisemitic content will be drowned out by other types of content. There will still be a thread here and there every once in a while, but it should be little enough overall that new users wouldn't be put off by it. So in my opinion, the best solution to this is to be active in other communities which appear on the frontpage or places like s/all.

            [–]asterias 9 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

            Incels and NEETs

            talk with other incels.

            That sounds racist and sexist... but we believe in free speech so we forgive you.

            [–]bobbobbybob 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (5 children)

            oh, please, leave.

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              [–]bobbobbybob 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

              I don’t want to associate with these losers.

              hardly critical of ideas, more a drama queen

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                [–]bobbobbybob 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

                the Nazis had high IQs,, the leadership were all 140+ so the jewish 'i'm so smart' line kinda dies there.

                yawn

                [–]whereswhat 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

                Moo

                [–]Leo_Littlebook 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

                I don't believe your unsupported claim that anti-Semitism is correlated with low sociosexual or socioeconomic value.

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                  [–]Leo_Littlebook 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

                  No, it's spending lots of time commenting online that's a big indicator of a low value male. Which, glancing at your recent comment history, appears to apply to you.

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                    [–]smokratez 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                    He's a faggot inbred incel jew. Their whole life is literally kwetching about white people all day.

                    [–]proc0 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                    Just filter it in your head instead of expecting the app to do it for everyone. If it really is a bad community, even with huge numbers of visitors, then alternatives exist and the problem can be solved in a different way by someone else. Censorship has been tried over and over and I don't think it works at all.

                    [–][deleted] 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

                    Saidit isn't doing that. Show me evidence.

                    [–]Extract 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

                    "Just trust me bro!"

                    [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                    If these people had evidence, or anything like a reasonable objection, they'd be presenting it. All they do is throw tantrums for not getting their way.

                    [–]Tums_is_Smut_bkwrds 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

                    You're right. I was actually referring to the "pyramid of debate" here but you wouldn't know that because I didn't bother to mention it. My bad.

                    [–][deleted] 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

                    The Pyramid of Debate doesn't FORBID some types of speech. I have used some VERY crude language on here, and the posts are still around. Its function is to elevate the discussion to higher standards of quality, not actually censor speech. But if everything an individual has to contribute is made up of 4-letter words, either literally or metaphorically, then he will find it uncomfortable around here. Yes, his comments will be deleted IN FAVOR OF his learning to express his views in a more civilized manner.

                    It has been a process for me as well, who enjoy using EXTREME crudeness as a means of reflecting the equally extreme degeneracy of our world. But suffice to say, I can also express myself in more delicate tones. It doesn't reflect this degeneracy to which I am in absolute opposition as well as crudeness, but I make do.

                    I used to post most on Voat, where such crudeness is more or less applauded, but I've adapted and I must say, the quality of discussion on saidit is unparalleled. As such, I am glad I did. Censorship it is NOT, for you can express the same ideas as those you would use super-crude language for, in more refined terms, and your post will stay.

                    [–]bobbobbybob 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

                    100%. One line throwaway "OP is a faggot", whilst true, are not high on the pyramid of debate, so have to be prefaced with a detailed breakdown and maybe references, before delivery.

                    It is illuminating and edifying. Proper educaminated shit slinging.

                    [–]america_first_1776 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (12 children)

                    How is Ruqqus doing it? I saw their recent policy on violence and it seemed to just match the legal standard

                    [–]Tums_is_Smut_bkwrds 13 insightful - 4 fun13 insightful - 3 fun14 insightful - 4 fun -  (9 children)

                    There was an obvious intent to "not become like VOAT" that came out if you used words like nigger in comments. VOAT may not be perfect but I'll take actual freedom of speech any day.

                    That was a few weeks ago and I don't go there (Ruqqus) much now so it may have changed, I don't know.

                    [–]magnora7 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

                    Voat doesn't have freedom of speech though, they just have a different hivemind that censors you for different wrongthink

                    [–]oneinchterror 8 insightful - 3 fun8 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

                    Voat doesn't censor though.

                    [–]magnora7 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

                    Yeah the downvote system definitely limits new users and people who go against the hivemind. It literally prevents the from voting or posting often. They called it the "founders effect" but in reality it just created a system that was easy for one sub-culture to hijack

                    [–]oneinchterror 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

                    Good point. I'm glad you guys seem to have learned from their mistakes (although I personally think doing away with downvotes completely was a step too far).

                    [–]Tums_is_Smut_bkwrds 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

                    You mean the wrongthink that doesn't tolerate leftish bullshit? I think I'm okay with that.

                    [–]magnora7 9 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

                    So you really want an echo chamber, not free speech. Got it.

                    [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                    Yyyyep. All they want is a place they can own. Their "Free speech" means kicking anyone else out. It's about as transparent as you've seen here. Every single time.

                    [–]_XEAL_ 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                    The problem with VOAT is that it doesn't have diversity of opinions, it's just the antiReddit

                    [–]suckitreddit 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                    Tums, Voat does not have freedom of speech. It's the reverse of reddit, yes, but it all leads to the same result. Because of how Voat's system is it creates power users, and rabid groups suppressing what, and who they don't like.

                    [–]spinell 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

                    The legal standard of where? America?

                    [–]america_first_1776 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                    Yes. I should have been more specific in that regard.

                    [–]WarmPotato 7 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

                    True, Ruqqus is going ban crazy atm

                    [–]magnora7 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                    They just changed their policy towards content inciting violence yesterday

                    [–]Jesus 7 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

                    Bitchute is even worse. The whole front page is now pro-Zionist videos and their new terms bans opressive videos, whatever that means.

                    [–]ctvzbuxr 25 insightful - 2 fun25 insightful - 1 fun26 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

                    Fuck people who hate others based on their race or origin. Nobody chooses to be born white, jewish, asian, black or whatever else. What matters is our actions and who we are. There is no jewish controversy here. This is a controversy about people wanting to use this platform to spill blatant racism. And let me make one thing clear: There people should still be allowed to speak. But seriously, fuck these people.

                    [–]Jesus 11 insightful - 3 fun11 insightful - 2 fun12 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

                    Agreed. But one can criticize their beliefs.

                    [–]lmaonope333 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

                    being Jewish doesn't determine your beliefs. there are Jewish fundamentalists, moderates, and atheists. there are Jewish conservatives, Jewish liberals and Jewish centrists. same like any other ethnic group.

                    [–]72ndGender 8 insightful - 4 fun8 insightful - 3 fun9 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

                    You're right, I shouldn't talk shit about Jews. Just about people doing Jewish shit. Like subversion, communism, anti-white racism, anti-male feminism, usury, Zionism, etc... Not all Jews do any of this. Just like 99% of them. I like the other 1% though.

                    [–]bobbobbybob 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

                    See, you get it. We may disagree, but you understand the point of a place like saidit.

                    [–][deleted] 23 insightful - 5 fun23 insightful - 4 fun24 insightful - 5 fun -  (30 children)

                    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_dissonance . Some ppl. obviously can't handle it.

                    You need some balls to stay here. So either grow a pair or live on in your most favourite filter bubble.

                    Complain at Zuckerberg's army of delete-slaves, e.g. , not here because here wrecking balls tend to swing back.

                    Swinging one yourself here will ensure you get hurt.

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                      [–][deleted] 16 insightful - 4 fun16 insightful - 3 fun17 insightful - 4 fun -  (8 children)

                      Who's the incel now ?

                      I wrote my truth and i don't give a fuck about your deductions from it.

                      Cognitive dissonance strikes AGAIN.

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                        [–][deleted] 10 insightful - 3 fun10 insightful - 2 fun11 insightful - 3 fun -  (6 children)

                        Read the slogan, before you write. That's the point of this whole site.

                        Another hit into the void. Do you know https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_Ali ?

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                          [–]bobbobbybob 8 insightful - 6 fun8 insightful - 5 fun9 insightful - 6 fun -  (1 child)

                          we do not care if you think we are 'cringe'. Standard marxist social shaming doesn't work here. so, either you LIKE people telling you you are a fucking fagoot, or you are just a sucker for punishment.

                          This is saidit - and you will have to fit in or fuck off.

                          You don't need to agree with everyone. that's tedious, but you have to deal with the fact we don't care about your delicate sensibilities.

                          [–][deleted] 9 insightful - 3 fun9 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

                          So now you're asking. But i don't answer to incels, as you may have correctly concluded.

                          [–]bellatrixbells 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

                          To quote The Dark Knight : "Friends ? Have you not met this guy ?"

                          HAHAHA

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                            [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

                            Having / growing balls is not a 'gender' or 'sexuality' question. It's obviously a figure of speech. Like my fkn is. But i mostly use in other ways bc. English is only my third learned language and i'm very grateful that i learned Latin FIRST.

                            Latin is math with words, bc. no matter in which sequence you put the words the sense remains the same (almost like in any equation, if you follow the rules), because in Latin only the grammar defines it for the whole sentence. From this i got my creativity with the English grammar. But since most US-Americans don't even understand their own grammar, i can see no point in discussing my creative use of it.

                            You're drawing this into a direction, i mostly don't give anything about (because i already know myself well enough in this), so this is only for clarification.

                            It's everyone's personal decision how much he / she shares about his gender (identity) and / or sexuality. I don't expose neither of mine. That simple it is for me. And why the fuck should i expose friends of mine on an internet board full of trolls ? Because sme asks me in a rather desperate attempt to troll / patronize me?

                            PLUS : My girl is completely with me on this. So this noob thinking AND falsely trying to hang me on his feelings bc. i wouldn't have had any friends just shows how weak he really is, imo. Just think about who attacked whom and maybe you can follow my style of debate better.

                            Using controversial terms is betting on a reaction and betting on me budging is always the same as exposing yourself to me more and more for a knockout, if i don't think AND feel it is funny OR you have an ARGUMENT , which he can't show, because he has NONE. He started climbing down the pyramid with some fake-ass knowledge, he didn't even read thoroughly into.

                            He just projected his feelings (mainly hate, i suppose bc. he is too lazy to read the full article i cited) on me in falsely believing i'd move away instead of going in and got a nice right short uppercut directly under his glass chin back for that. This happened bc. he thought only bc. he exposes himself, i'd do the same. If you followed this till now, you can read literally how much it hurt him bc. he tried to deflect it after this hit connected.

                            Keeping just the right distance is a key in every technique of fighting, as debating most definitely is.

                            Now you learned how to handle noobs that get personal because they can't handle arguments. Or not. That's up to you.

                            [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

                            <Having / growing balls is not a 'gender' or 'sexuality' question. It's obviously a figure of speech. Like my fkn is. But i mostly use in other ways bc. English is only my third learned language and i'm very grateful that i learned Latin FIRST.>. Yet, you used this this figure of speech and therefore begs my statement. Well, if this is your third language congratulations, you must be of great intellect. I still wonder at your low brow figure of speech and still begs my question from an intellect, with more power...Oops I forgot the clarification < But since most US-Americans don't even understand their own grammar, i can see no point in discussing my creative use of it.>.

                            Baiting can be low brow and baiting can be intellectual and the pyramid tells you which one is most acceptable, if one's goal is to be a master baiter. Now that little turn of phrase was not so low brow, but uses the same body parts as your figure of speech (its in how one present the figure and both sexes masterbate). And is more a joke upon us both than any low brow trolling of an extremist's point of view. If every post is built around cognitive dissonance, then how are you going to reach anyone on the internet that is outside you bias? I suppose you handled me like a noob, or not...thats up to you. I must be a noob, because I have no idea what "bc" means. I must be outside the in-group, therefor double noob to me.

                            <In the field of psychology, cognitive dissonance occurs when a person holds two or more contradictory beliefs, ideas, or values; or participates in an action that goes against one of these three, and experiences psychological stress because of that.>. Any argument can be analyzed by this frame work even when it is a constructive debate and does not go low brow or low on the pyramid. If and only if, you write your personal truths in word, hence personal and befitting the emphasis on psychology of the individual. I don't care what group you or anyone else are within, there are group characteristics both acceptable and unacceptable...in all groupings, categorizations of humans.

                            I find paradox of the mind that, which cognitive dissonance refers is a place to learn one's biases (at the least). Again, I am a noob or boob that's up to you to define by figurative writing. I already know myself and how I define me myself and I. Even the people around me don't use these words to describe me, but please feel free. I always wanted to learn Latin, dyslexia hinders my motivation.

                            ...create a great day...

                            [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                            That is they great art: Getting people to read your stuff on English where almost all taboos are sexual in nature while not stepping one sme's toes at the same time. I totally agree. If i could write in German this could be very easy. But i like it, if it isn't too easy for me. That's another psychological principle whose name i forgot. It goes like this somehow: Real joy can only be achieved by putting in some sweat beforehand.

                            OR: Per aspera ad astra.

                            And this wasn't about you, him or me, somewhat. I thought this was obvious. I will refer to dissonance more often, because imo it explains a lot of these problems, Zuckerberg, google and co. try to solve technically, which is not possible without creating some 'favourite' narratives. That is another reason i am back here.

                            With English i am still a student because it is a very fuzzy language. But i will need a better version of myself in English very soon because in my 'crew' i am the only one willing and able enough to negotiate with US-Americans. And why should we ignore all the money you are printing if you can give it to us ?

                            [–]bobbobbybob 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

                            we don't care how we look. We care about truth and discussion.

                            don't like it? FUCK OFF, not your personal website, dude.

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                              [–]bobbobbybob 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                              truth? your truth? that you don't like the makeup of saidit and want to change it. Fuck off, twat

                              [–]smokratez 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (12 children)

                              How do you like your bagels?

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                                [–]72ndGender 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

                                It's not a joke, it's just pointing out that you're a desperate jew/jew lover that feels powerless when you can't control everyone's speech. Your attempts at controlling it through shaming aren't working either. It's unsettling, I know. But after a while, you will learn to accept that you aren't royalty, a god, or a dictator that can rule over people's lives. Then, you will start to relax, and accept your position as a normal person. You will give up on your need for control. And you will be happier.

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                                  [–]72ndGender 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

                                  You're proving my point.

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                                    [–]72ndGender 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

                                    That's some really great shaming, madcow! Well done. Keep it up and you will definitely take control of what I say. Or not. And you will have to accept how powerless you are. Ya know, the point I made, that you failed to respond to.

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                                      [–][deleted] 12 insightful - 3 fun12 insightful - 2 fun13 insightful - 3 fun -  (31 children)

                                      Awww, you expected people to just believe your propaganda and join in on your racism? Adorable!

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                                        [–]Extract 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (29 children)

                                        What facts?
                                        All the "facts" in this post are "bro those are sourced and established historical facts trust me".

                                        [–]america_first_1776 22 insightful - 7 fun22 insightful - 6 fun23 insightful - 7 fun -  (19 children)

                                        [–]Extract 13 insightful - 2 fun13 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 2 fun -  (11 children)

                                        Here's a nice reply from the article you linked last, which applies to pretty much everything you said:

                                        The author confuses a symptom with a cause.

                                        So called Elite schools have Legacy Admissions so that alumni-donors can get their kids in. It is necessary for the school’s pocket book. Thus the root-cause is the “Privilege of Prior Privilege” not any current religious or ethnic bias. And, past conditions were driven by “Privilege of Cash”. Massive “Student Aid” packages are a fairly new phenomenon that has created its own problems.

                                        Correlation != causation.

                                        So far, from what you've written, the only point that can be made is that Jews are good at exploiting corrupt systems (which America has been for looooong before the Jews "took over").

                                        So, any actual points?

                                        [–][deleted] 8 insightful - 4 fun8 insightful - 3 fun9 insightful - 4 fun -  (5 children)

                                        Jews are good at exploiting corrupt systems (which America has been for looooong before the Jews "took over").

                                        They got their hooks in by 1772, when the Jewish community of St. Croix sent (((Hamilton))) (son of a Rachel Levine) to America. Or by 1492, when (((Christopher Columbus))) fled the Inquisition.

                                        [–]Extract 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

                                        Evidence of this (not of the events, but of how they caused the Jews to "take over")?

                                        [–][deleted] 9 insightful - 4 fun9 insightful - 3 fun10 insightful - 4 fun -  (3 children)

                                        There's a full breakdown of the Hamilton Question here: http://dissident-mag.com/2020/01/01/ftn-276-american-mephistopheles-part-1/

                                        The latter part is really just the logical consequence of several facts. America was settled largely by Spanish crypto-Jews fleeing poysecution, and many of these people got involved with slave trading, ultimately leading to a slave-based economy. In this is the birth of Jewish (economic) power in America.

                                        [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

                                        Oh sure, just ignore all the non-Jews largely responsible for its continuation and perpetuation. Ignore all the economic and political reasons behind it. Just blame it on a single group of people. That's totally sensible. What's nuance?

                                        [–]bald-janitor 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

                                        Come, lets shut them down!

                                        [–]Anatolia 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

                                        New York's origination of power came from Cotton and Slave trading primarily done by European Jews.

                                        [–]america_first_1776 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

                                        So far, from what you've written, the only point that can be made is that Jews are good at exploiting corrupt systems (which America has been for looooong before the Jews "took over").

                                        Uhhhh, there is such a thing as making a bad problem much much worse to the point of societal destruction.

                                        [–]Extract 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

                                        But the thing is, they aren't doing anything "white" american's aren't doing.
                                        There are corrupt non-Jewish politicians doing the same thing Jewish politicians are doing. They are just doing it better.

                                        Again, by your arguments, because the logical conclusion of the corruption-prone US system is "societal destruction", that places whoever is best at exploiting that system at fault? Or maybe, just maybe, it's the people who accepted, and keep accepting, this system?

                                        [–]america_first_1776 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

                                        A system is made by its people. The original constitution and immigration acts were made for a nation of white Europeans. It's like introducing an alligator to a rural human household in Wyoming. The gator is brought to Wyoming by shady ways and ends up killing the family's livestock and their children before they realize what happened. Of course the people in that house wouldn't know how to defend against alligators, but it takes a complete psychopath to conclude that the people were in the wrong. They were blindsided and exploited by an outside force that snuck its way into their lives.

                                        [–]Extract 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

                                        The alligator is a natural killing machines, weighting hundreds of pounds, capable of decimating humans with the snap of its mouth.

                                        Are you claiming Jews were that far ahead of regular Americans, just by virtue of being Jewish? Thus, Americans should have been "sheltered" from Jews, in order to avoid competing with them for the same roles?

                                        [–]america_first_1776 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

                                        Not everything about society is about "competition" dude. It's about having peace and harmony, which is only possible in a homogeneous community.

                                        [–]Nelumbo 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

                                        Despite being only 50% of the American population...

                                        96% of the Supreme Court justices have been men

                                        Men on most of the media

                                        Men are in control of most of the advertising companies along with the media and uses this to promote the subjugation of women

                                        Even in the Soviet Union, it was the men that were disproportionately in leadership roles

                                        Men control the porn industry, look at all the male names of porn company founders

                                        All American presidents have been men

                                        Men made up 88% of the world's billionaires in 2015

                                        Men are charged for about 99% of rapes and 88% of murders

                                        What do you want to do with this information? Create an ethnostate without da jooz? Extreme feminists can use the same arguments as a reason for why men and women should have separate countries, only interacting when there is need for copulation to further the species. But you probably think that sounds laughable, so why should anyone take this ethnostate shit (or whatever the alt-right wants to do about the jews) seriously?

                                        [–]america_first_1776 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

                                        Yeah, men also are responsible for practically all modern innovation and they built basically every building you see in every major city and always have. The US and practically every single other civilization has been driven by men because of two traits: 1) men are more likely to have abnormally high IQ and 2) men are more likely to have the testosterone that drives them into positions of leadership in the first place. It's the testosterone and innovative mind of the man that made western civilization possible to begin with. You don't see how a specific 2% with no real nation of their own being responsible for the issues their host nation has is different?

                                        [–]Nelumbo 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

                                        Yeah, men also are responsible for practically all modern innovation and they built basically every building you see in every major city and always have.

                                        Because for most of civilization women were second class citizens who, if they tried being innovative, would be beaten or burned at the stake by the brutes who commit 99% of rapes. Probably gonna take some time for female led innovation to catch up after that shit.

                                        men are more likely to have the testosterone

                                        Testosterone also leads to murder and war, imagine how many potential scientists and innovators have died as a result of war.

                                        You don't see how a specific 2% with no real nation of their own being responsible for the issues their host nation has is different?

                                        Ummm, sweety, have you considered that maybe jews are in control of everything because of biological reasons? Perhaps whites are just lazy and jews are more likely to have a genetic makeup that drives them into positions of leadership in the first place? /sarcasm

                                        [–]america_first_1776 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

                                        Because for most of civilization women were second class citizens who, if they tried being innovative, would be beaten or burned at the stake by the brutes who commit 99% of rapes.

                                        3 things about that statement: 1) pretty much everyone was executed for being "innovative." I'm pretty sure men were just usually hanged/drawn quartered more and women were burned at the stake more; 2) Even if your statement is true, then I'm still correct and you're basically admitting there is a genetic predisposition for men to be innovative; 3) Evolutionary theory would actually suggest that men have to be innovative to attract a partner. Throughout all of history, women and their fathers were the ones that had the bargaining power. Men had to be innovative in order to crack into the lower % of men that move onto the next genetic stage

                                        Ummm, sweety, have you considered that maybe jews are in control of everything because of biological reasons? Perhaps whites are just lazy and jews are more likely to have a genetic makeup that drives them into positions of leadership in the first place? /sarcasm

                                        I actually explained this on another post that even controlling for IQ, Jews are far more represented than they should be. And I gave a very VERY generously high-Iq estimate for Jews (probably a standard deviation off):

                                        "Having even that high of an average IQ doesn't explain how they are so disproportionately represented in social media, msm, academia, government, and sports team ownership.

                                        Lets say that the average IQ of a person in such leadership roles is 124 (Here is why I'm using that number). There are about 7 million Jews in the US, meaning that even if their average IQ was as high as 124, there would be ~3.5 million Jews available in the possible pool of "leadership roles." There are 234 million white Americans in the United States. Let's say only 6.5% of whites have an IQ over 124 (I base this off of the bell curve and the approximate percentile breakdown of the bell curve). That means there is a pool of ~10.5 million white Americans to choose from for this pool of "leadership positions.""

                                        [–]Nelumbo 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

                                        there is a genetic predisposition for men to be innovative

                                        I'm going to quote what someone else wrote:

                                        The main reason why the majority of "geniuses" are men is not because they have a super talent that women lack. But because historically they have had plenty of available time for training or work. They never have to waste the slightest drop of sweat on either strenuous housework or noisy children. Because during the waking hours of the day, their wives take care of it every day seven days a week. Totally free. They sacrifice their own careers for their husbands to fulfill their vain dreams of fame, glory, wealth and success. However, more than 99 percent of men's dreams never come true. But about these failures, not a word is mentioned about either here or in the media.

                                        Lots of women with exceptionally high IQ have throughout history sacrificed their own careers by becoming housewives for their husbands who want to reach the top. Women who have reached the top are often childless singles. Men who have reached the top are mostly married family fathers with free service by their wives taking care of housework and kids. Almost no man wants to sacrifice his own career to let his talented wife devote both time and energy to solving math problems, building future large companies, inventions or whatever she may be obsessed with.

                                        There you have the explanation. The IQ difference between the sexes is far too trivial to explain why the absolute majority, 80 to 95 percent, of Nobel laureates, star chefs, stock market CEOs, top researchers, computer geniuses, elite chess players, etc. are men.

                                        Men: talent plus full-time housework service performed free of charge by sacrificial wives. Women: talent. Women have more or less been forced to make sacrifices ever since man's transition from the hunter-gatherer era to the agricultural society in order for their husbands to be successful and wealthy.

                                        End quote.

                                        Jews are far more represented than they should be.

                                        If you think it's so unfair that some jews have a lot of money, maybe you should work towards creating a communist state instead of an ethnostate. By the way, sources listed on Wikipedia say that in 1917 only five of the twenty-one members of the Communist Central Committee were Jews. It doesn't look like the jews controlled everything, but let me guess, Wikipedia is run by Zionist lizard people from Mars so you can't trust any source they approve of.

                                        There are about 7 million Jews in the US, meaning that even if their average IQ was as high as 124, there would be ~3.5 million Jews available in the possible pool of "leadership roles."

                                        It could be some other aspect of their biology besides IQ that makes them more predisposed for leadership roles, maybe it's a "leadership" gene? Of course that's nonsense, but what do you believe, that there's a "sneaky jew" gene? Do you think all jews are part of some secret cabal who spends their time planning and cackling about how to best subjugate the goyim? lol that's what teen girls on tumblr think men do, that all males are rapists and part of some patriarchal plot to deliberately oppress womynkind.

                                        Money equals power, the real rulers and oppressors are the rich elite, regardless of their race or gender.

                                        [–]america_first_1776 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

                                        The quote you posted regarding women is nothing but anecdotal Kafka-trap drivel with absolutely no basis on reality. In fact, I've seen studies suggesting men have overall less free time than women (I'll have to look around to find them again), but that wouldn't fit your narrative.

                                        If you think it's so unfair that some jews have a lot of money, maybe you should work towards creating a communist state instead of an ethnostate. By the way, sources listed on Wikipedia say that in 1917 only five of the twenty-one members of the Communist Central Committee were Jews. It doesn't look like the jews controlled everything, but let me guess, Wikipedia is run by Zionist lizard people from Mars so you can't trust any source they approve of.

                                        Passive aggressive reddit-tier strawman take my guy. The only source listed in the wikipedia that dealt with the number of Jews in leadership roles, entitled "The Jewish Enemy: Nazi Propaganda During World War II and the Holocaust" (yeah, totally not biased) I could not find. I did find out something interesting about the author. You'll never guess what his enthnicity was... I'll give you a hint. He wasn't a Presbyterian.

                                        For anyone actually interested, here is a list of the names with ethnicities in the Central Committee of the Bolshevik Party, Council of the People's Commissars, Central Executive Committee, and Extraordinary Commission of Moscow

                                        [–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                                        Let's see if you can endure a whole video about JEWS THEMSELVES talking about how they view the rest of us: https://www.bitchute.com/video/SpjbobMPSa1d/?list=favorites&randomize=false

                                        [–][deleted]  (7 children)

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                                          [–]Extract 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

                                          It's not racism to point this out.

                                          You also haven't made any points here, so..

                                          [–][deleted]  (5 children)

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                                            [–]Extract 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

                                            You posted a specific set of evidence, they drew a completely unrelated conclusion.
                                            Good for you, go back to /s/conspiracy now.

                                            [–][deleted]  (3 children)

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                                              [–]Extract 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                                              You seem to be under the delusion that any mainstream media, in any country, has its people's best interests in mind.

                                              In fact they hate the people and have the opposite of best interest in mind.

                                              Again, zero evidence of that.
                                              Unless you compare the total number of companies (in the same categories by industry of success), and show that those owned/ran by jews post significantly different content (specifically the type of divisive propaganda usually pushed by the MSM) as opposed to those ran by non-jews, you have absolutely no point.
                                              And something tells me you aren't actually gonna gather any of this data - much easier to cry about the (((scary boogieman))) than actually find evidence to support your claims.

                                              [–]SeasideLimbs 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

                                              do not have the people’s best interest in mind

                                              Is there a study/survey/whatever that shows that jewish people ave negative attitudes toward caucasian people?

                                              are extremely over represented in power positions

                                              Likely for the same reason that black people are underrepresented in positions of power unless a left-wing government steps in with stuff like affirmative action: having a culture that values (or devalues) things correlated with success.

                                              [–]antireddit 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                                              Is there a study/survey/whatever that shows that jewish people ave negative attitudes toward caucasian people?

                                              "The Alternative Hypothesis" mentions a couple polls in his video "a celebration of the Jewish people" that show things like Jews opposing something simply if its worded in a way that makes it seem like whites will benefit, and supporting it if whites are harmed by it, along with Jews having a majority negative opinion of Christians despite Christians having an overwhelming majority positive opinion of Jews. I believe Jews even rated Muslims higher.

                                              [–][deleted] 10 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 2 fun -  (64 children)

                                              Historical facts? Like what?

                                              [–]Tums_is_Smut_bkwrds 17 insightful - 3 fun17 insightful - 2 fun18 insightful - 3 fun -  (57 children)

                                              Oh just the complete and total absence of evidence to support the existence of gas chambers and that 6 million died. To start.

                                              But don't take my word for it. Try and find anything that isn't anecdotal that supports the Holocaust, and report back.

                                              [–][deleted] 17 insightful - 1 fun17 insightful - 0 fun18 insightful - 1 fun -  (27 children)

                                              Well, there were those mass graves. "Just anecdotal".

                                              [–][deleted] 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

                                              Many of those are German soldiers and civilians. A lot of people died of starvation, typhus and a other things. Not a trace of cyanide in the so-called "gas chamber" walls though. Hm....

                                              [–]Jesus 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

                                              At the Holocaust museum there is a photo showing incinerated bodies at a supposed "death camp". It turns out that the camp was firebombed by allied planes. And yet they still used this as atrocity propganda against Germany when it was the allies who killed all of them at that camp.

                                              [–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                                              I did not know this, but I am unsurprised. Mad Dog Churchill would stop at nothing to avenge his wounded pride. NOTHING. And here is uncle Adolf negotiating with these screeching demons as if they were actual gentlemen.

                                              [–]Jesus 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

                                              Typhus. Hundreds of thousands died from this disease at the end of thr war when Germany was destroyed and had a food blockade. The camps were riddled with Typhus and disinfectant of Zyklon B only helped somewhat. None of these people died from gas chambers.

                                              [–]72ndGender 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

                                              Zyklon B was a delousing agent to help stop the spread of typhus. Not really a disinfectant. But, either way, it was used to protect Jewish people.

                                              [–]Jesus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                                              Yes, sorry. Delousing.

                                              [–]america_first_1776 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (15 children)

                                              Typhus outbreak was well known at that time.

                                              [–][deleted] 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

                                              Were the black and white stripped uniforms and emasculated bodies a symptom of typhus?

                                              [–]america_first_1776 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

                                              Okay, so most of these camps were filled with communists, that so happened to be Jews because Jews, just by pure coincidence, happened to almost completely dominate communism at the time. The striped uniforms were absolutely prison uniforms, there is no debate about that. Those people were in internment camps. Many of these pictures though, were taken towards the end of the war. This is important for two reasons: 1) there was disease spread in these camps that was very prevalent at the time and 2) the Russians had almost completely cut German supply chains at this time. Meaning, the prisoners were showing a bad combination of disease and starvation.

                                              [–][deleted] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                                              And your evidence for any of that is... ?

                                              [–]bobbobbybob 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                                              work camps. Because work sets you free, instead of being usurous leeches on society

                                              [–]72ndGender 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                                              What do you think would have happened to the Japanese if we lost the war, and had our food and medical supply lines bombed?

                                              [–]kokolokoNightcrawler[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

                                              Here's the thing, america_first...By locking them down inside the arbeit camps against their will....the Nazis are bearing the same burden of genocide as if they've gassed them in the first place. Nazism was a great EVIL imo

                                              [–][deleted] 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

                                              No dude. The Jews declared war on Germany. As such, these were enemy agents. They put them into work camps, where they got paid, had swimming pools, grand pianos, orchestras and soccer games. Very genocide, obviously.

                                              Here, have a listen to actual "death camp survivors" about their experience: https://www.bitchute.com/video/0I6RMclS7DEv/

                                              [–]kokolokoNightcrawler[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

                                              wow, never seen this one

                                              [–][deleted] 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

                                              The kicker is, these are interviews organized by Steven Spielberg for "historical documentation" to make his pro-jew, anti-white movies. This is part of the deleted footage. Gee, I wonder why.

                                              [–]kokolokoNightcrawler[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

                                              Didn't one child star die in his movie from an infection, from a penetrated behind?

                                              O here we go. http://themillenniumreport.com/2017/12/top-lawyer-confirms-poltergeist-child-actor-killed-by-hollywood-pedophile-ring/

                                              [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                                              Yep, I had forgotten that. Fuck, now I feel like puking.

                                              [–]Jesus 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

                                              Yes, locking them up and pulling them from their homes is atrocious. Wealthy Zionists worked with certain nazis to help emmigrate Jews to palestine. They both had their own agendas.

                                              So-called Holocaust deniers do not deny Nazi attrociries against Jews. They just use science to debunk the figures and use of gas chambers. Proving the impossibilities.

                                              [–]bobbobbybob 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                                              don't forget the 'final solution' - madagascar

                                              [–]kokolokoNightcrawler[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                                              I understand.

                                              [–]bobbobbybob 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                                              yeah, rounding up the enemy is totally jsut a nazi thing, and didn't happen to the germans, the japansese etc.

                                              [–]bobbobbybob 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                                              holocaustdeprogrammingcourse.com

                                              [–]Tums_is_Smut_bkwrds 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

                                              Okay now keep doing that until you get to 6 million.

                                              A lot of people died in the camps toward the end of the war, there is no question. This picture by itself picture proves nothing.

                                              [–]bobbobbybob 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                                              we don't need to. the red cross has census figures pre and post war.

                                              6 million is a prophecy figure for the jews, they've accused so many nations of it, over the millennia

                                              [–]72ndGender 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                                              What is your proof that these were Jewish people and that they were intentionally killed by Nazi Germany?

                                              [–]Extract 9 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 2 fun -  (9 children)

                                              What would be actual evidence to you?

                                              Personally going to Yad Vashem to review each and every piece of evidence? Or Germany, with a full on forensics team to find traces of Zyklon B in the remains of the relevant buildings?

                                              Arguing with the idiots here is like arguing with the loonies who say the moon landing isn't real.
                                              At some point, when the whole world (and not just those with the interest to do so) has clearly compiled enough evidence on a specific topic, you can still reject them if you're deluded enough, but it wont make them less valid.

                                              [–]america_first_1776 13 insightful - 2 fun13 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

                                              Or Germany, with a full on forensics team to find traces of Zyklon B in the remains of the relevant buildings?

                                              Debateable. There were many instances where it actually wasn't found on relevant buildings that could have been used as gas chambers, but was found in places commonly used for other purposes.

                                              Zyklon B wasn't used to gas people.

                                              I know it's difficult to accept you've been lied to, but it's true.

                                              [–]Extract 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

                                              [–]america_first_1776 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

                                              Okay, we'll let the people decide. My source does address yours as well.

                                              [–]Jesus 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                                              It was used as a disinfectant.

                                              [–]Tums_is_Smut_bkwrds 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                                              Well actual evidence would be evidence. I'm not saying there isn't any but I am saying I haven't seen it. A death toll of 350k-ish, most of which were due to disease and starvation in the final days of the war, is actually somewhat supported by evidence IMO. The official published Jewish population world wide actually increased from the beginning to the end of the war. So about that 6 million...

                                              Some Holocaust deniers are fucking nutjobs there's no doubt, and unfortunately they are the most vocal so it's what everybody sees. It makes it harder to want to consider an alternative narrative to what we've been fed for what is for most of us now our whole lives.

                                              [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                                              [–]JimCuckoldCornette30 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                                              Lol the moon Landing was faked and you would really be foolish if you believed it lol plus calling Nixon from the moon via telephone then NASA said we destroyed all the technology to go to the moon people really don't research anything.

                                              [–]asterias 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                                              If you visit the city of Naousa, you can also visit the monument of the Holocaust of Naousa caused by Turks and Jews. Which is a known historical fact, yet Jews insist that it wasn't because the victims were "antisemitic".

                                              The victims perished in a matter of days under slaughter and torture.

                                              [–]bobbobbybob 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                                              zyklon B is an anti-lice treatment for clothes.

                                              [–]Jesus 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

                                              6 million is arithmetically impossible but by faith and impossibility is true.

                                              Do you get it?

                                              Nobody denies the poor treatment and outright treachery certain Nazis inflicted on certain Jews. They question the figures and methods.

                                              [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                                              Really? this thread is full of people denying the poor treatment and outright treachery certain Nazis inflicted on certain Jews. It's a huge leap to go from questioning the number of jews killed to saying nothing happening to them and actually, the concentration camps were just like hotels. (someone in this thread claimed they got paid and had swimming pools, and such)

                                              [–]MrZak 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

                                              Thats the crux of it, Holocaust deniers don't deny that a lot of people died in labour camps and many of them were Jewish.

                                              They deny that there was a state sponsored program of eradication, gas chambers and camps specifically set up to kill people, also the numbers too.

                                              ofcourse you arent allowed to debate this because in most countries they have made it illegal to question that narrative.

                                              btw, Im not really on any side here but I want one side to convince me with evidence.... and so far one side is talking and the other is calling me an anti-semite for questioning it.

                                              [–]Jesus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

                                              Codoh.com or Codoh.co: Holocaust forums has plenty of proof and revisionist historical facts about this issue. They are very strict about rules which is cool too. They allow zero fallacies, so, trolls and shills are not allowed there.

                                              It is quite ridiculous that you are jailed and fined in some countries for questioning a historical event (not denying it) with science.

                                              [–]MrZak 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

                                              Yeah, like say I approached some historians and said "hey I have been looking into the narrative and x and y don't quite add up, could you help me understand what i'm missing here ?"

                                              I and the person who helped me research could be jailed or fined.

                                              [–]Jesus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                                              Yup, if it happeened the way they say it did, they wouldn't need to jail anyone.

                                              Some might contend:

                                              They throw people in jail for questioning it because doing so will only lead to ANOTHER HOLOCAUST.

                                              That is literally their contention! As if anyone—not me, not you, not revisionists, at least 99.99% of skeptics—would want to harm anyone.

                                              [–]Ossidiana 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

                                              Amazing level of ignorance. You must be American.

                                              [–]Tums_is_Smut_bkwrds 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

                                              Calling me ignorant is not an argument. I'm not American.

                                              You're zero for two. I'd stop if I were you.

                                              [–]Ossidiana 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

                                              I'm not American.

                                              Wow, then your ignorance is even more impressive! It just shows that it can really come from any country.

                                              [–]bobbobbybob 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                                              fail

                                              [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

                                              The hollow cost is a hoax. An extremely expensive one, almost as bad as the plandemic.

                                              [–]Ossidiana 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

                                              Can't tell if troll or genuinely insane. ^

                                              [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

                                              OK, start by explaining this: https://www.bitchute.com/video/InfoisVbVuFc/

                                              And also, this: https://www.bitchute.com/video/0I6RMclS7DEv/

                                              And this: https://www.bitchute.com/video/o3kAb3Znwv6s/

                                              https://153news.net/watch_video.php?v=WU48R87RSYO3

                                              Once you are done finding "explanations" for these, I have half a dozen more, so just tell me those explanations that demonstrate how and why I am misguided, and we'll take it from there, mkay?

                                              [–]Ossidiana 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

                                              Excuse me if I don't get my culture and knowledge from "bitchute.com". I prefer studying actual history. You should try that some time. You'll become a better person.

                                              [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

                                              Oh I have done tons of that. So in the end, you REFUSE TO LOOK AT THE EVIDENCE. All created by JEWS THEMSELVES.

                                              Why is that, I wonder. I find it amusing that after doing so, you give advice on how to "become a better person". I would think even a half-decent person would look at the evidence provided before replying... Ah well. I feel sorry for you.

                                              [–]Ossidiana 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                                              Yeah, ok, troll spotted. I give it a 4/10: too obvious. Get a life.

                                              [–][deleted]  (2 children)

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                                                [–]Tums_is_Smut_bkwrds 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

                                                Doesn't matter how many times a lie is repeated, it's still a lie. If you can show me proof otherwise then I will retract my claim.

                                                [–]Tom_Bombadil 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

                                                Fred Leuchter - Gas Chamber Expert - holocaust holohoax - Leuchter Report

                                                Here's a public report of the findings of the only forensic investigation into the plausibility of the existence of gas chambers.

                                                [–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

                                                [–]kokolokoNightcrawler[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

                                                Take a shot each time six million Jews are facing starvation and death?

                                                [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

                                                That's over 250 times between 1800 and 1930. There was a video with the full historical records, but sadly it is lost to me now. Still, this one does a great job of showing it's a STORY they had been pushing on the rest of us for DECADES, trying to get us to believe it.

                                                [–]kokolokoNightcrawler[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

                                                O sheeet , I'd like to see the articles from 1800's about the 6 million...

                                                Damn, lol, you know I have family members that died in Jasenovac..My great grandad was almost shot to death first by Russians and then Fascists for dodging the service in their armies.

                                                [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

                                                I didn't know that, but yeah, war was pretty serious business back then. What did George Carlin use to say about it... Well, you know.

                                                [–]antireddit 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                                                Jews would obsessively seek out obscure subs on reddit, even ones that were quarantined or set to private, and obsess over anything bad said about them until it was banned. They did the same thing on youtube. On twitter. On Instagram. On google. On Facebook, and now bitchute.

                                                They view the entire internet as belonging to them, and because of their vast wealth and lobbying power, it damn near does. Is anyone remotely surprised they are doing the same thing to saidit? I predicted it the instant I heard a lot of people tired of reddit censorship and propaganda were coming here. They will not stop. They will keep kvetching and subverting and lobbying until they coopt this site or shut it down. We all know this.

                                                [–]KennyLogins 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

                                                I love how it was two manufactured threads at once. Not not an obvious scam at all.

                                                [–]Grateful 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                                                I'm being 100% honest. It was truly a coincidence that I made my post moments before the other person made their post.

                                                I'm not calling for an end to free speech. I was just asking why the criticism is not directed at Israel or the politicians or the media.

                                                [–]magnora7 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                                                And now the reaction threads, right on their tail. Both sides of this "controversy" are a scam to make this website look baised, instead of just talking about real things that are happening, they inflame ideological wars over controversial things to drive others away.

                                                [–]Zednix 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

                                                Nah, Fuck islam too, it's more evil than any other religion except wokeism

                                                [–]MrZak 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                                                most of the "good" components of Islam were just stolen from the pagan religions that existed in the area around the Arab peninsula at the time, you can still get a grasp on it when you talk to some fresh of the boat islamic people sometimes its like some weird gaia / naturist / proto-bhuddism stuff thats wedged in amongst the Rest of islam.

                                                Those beliefs however arent really a muhammed thing, theyre more pagan, Mecca and the black stone existed and held significance in the region long before muhammed was alive, If you go read the history of islams rise its essentially a gang of theives and robbers who turned into a terrorist organisation then turned into a kingdom.

                                                guys like Ali (muhammeds cousin and right hand man) read more like outlaw highwaymen when you look at their history through a non-historic lens.

                                                A large part of muhammeds success also is that many of the regions and "cities" he built his early kingdom around had tiny populations and were fairly backwater, medina which was one of his largest conquests only had about 20-30k people living in it, they didnt capture mecca until much later.

                                                [–]Jesus 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

                                                Always remember there is a war on Islam. Read Enver Masud's book" War on Islam or the Islamaphobia industry.

                                                Zionists are the problem. Zionists did 9/11, not muslim Arabs. For that reason the most anti-Semitic people on the planet are actually Likudniks.

                                                [–]kokolokoNightcrawler[S] 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

                                                Islam needs no greater enemy than the Saudi royal family. Also, people think Islam is an uniform movement, lol, nothing could be further from the truth.

                                                [–]MakeAOCBartendAgain 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

                                                JFC, the fucking voaters are turning this place into a "OMG Da Jews!!!" hellhole.

                                                [–]Grateful 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

                                                Is it such a difficult concept that criticism should be directed at governments, the media, and politicians, etc rather than average people? That was the point of my post.

                                                [–]Jesus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                                                Yes, but criticism can also be directed at muslims, Jews, Christians, and their sects etc. Have you ever read the Talmud?

                                                Criticize the state. Everyone can do that, that doesn't mean we must stop criticizing a religion or faith or people for histories sake.

                                                Criticism isn't bigotry but according to Trump and the Anti-Semitism bill literally criticizing Israel is anti-Semitism which means Trump and his ZioCons look fairly subversive to me and are spitting on the constitution.

                                                Should we police this?

                                                But I see what you mean on fallacies.

                                                Using ad hominems isn't going to cut it.

                                                If you go on Bitchute (owned by a Zionist) you'll botice that Hasbara shills push anti-Semitic posts about Muslim Arabs and bigotry concerning black people.

                                                When I expose CERTAIN Jews I'm called a kike on Bitchute (disqus) comments. Why would that be?

                                                [–]truth_reality_bliss 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                                                If you would rather go back to Reddit than read facts about Jewish Supremacy, then get the fuck out.

                                                [–]smokratez 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                                                Good accuracy.