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[–]GConly 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

What the hell is Scientism?

[–]JasonCarswell[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Open science is an antithesis to blind faith in Scientism, with inherent healthy skepticism and potential for practical defenses against proprietary (closed) pseudoscience in medicine and technology.

Open science uses the scientific method as a process of open discovery of shared verifiable knowledge. This contrasts with privately developed corporate proprietary science, where the processes and research are not publicly shared (or are obscured behind paywalls and/or in excessively expensive private journals), leaving all claims unverifiable nor legitimized. Thus the public is forced to have "faith" in privatized "closed science" without certainty that rigorous studies have been and are conducted, proper precautions taken, adequate warnings given, and that the results are beneficial to individuals, society, and the environment - all while serving private shareholders. The naive public is expected to "believe" all of the profit driven marketing, media hype, and propaganda, as well as the political lobbyists (a soft term for legalized bribery), and to trust for the best technology, drugs, medical care, and environmental stewardship while corporate monopolies safely and honestly earn their profits in a world where corporate corruption and status quo war profiteering are business as usual. This obscured or blind faith in corporate science is called Scientism.

It has been argued that peer-reviewed science, even computer science, had already been open until Apple Computer, Inc. v. Franklin Computer Corp. forced programmers to explicitly license products as Free or Open Source. As noted by Rob Landley, "The copyright issue changed in 1983, when the Apple v Franklin ruling extended copyright protections to binary code... Before that decision, source code was copyrightable but binaries weren't, so companies shipped source code to increase their ownership of the code in the eyes of the law. If you just shipped precompiled binaries, you had no rights the law would recognize".

~ https://infogalactic.com/info/Open_source#Open_science

On Wikipedia I started that open source article and wrote the above almost 2 years ago, right before I joined SaidIt, but a fellow SaidItor, WizzWizz4, removed it and I have yet to battle, again, to restore it. Fortunately it's backed up on InfoGalactic.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Yes. BELIEF is the ultimate evil, and scientism is foremost in twisting man's propensity to believe against him.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

I think i need both. Science and faith. And regarding corporations: I only truly trust my own enterprise. I assume everybody else lies. Makes my life very easy bc. everyone else i do business with has to proof, he/she/it is trustworthy.

[–]JasonCarswell[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Separate church and state, banks and state, and science and faith. Science is NOT about blind faith in privately owned information used for profit that can be lied about. Authentic science is about public skepticism and verification of the results or else it's just bad science or corrupt science.

Trust but verify. Prepare for the worst and hope for the best.

Have faith in other things but not science.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

I divide them clearly. I'm a proof man and take statistics very seriously, because the lies done with statistics are not that easily to debunk.

In most cases thankfully it is rather done with the graphs: If you look into the numbers and used assumptions itself, it becomes very clear, usually.

[–]JasonCarswell[S] 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

You also need to examine the methodology of science and stats. Unfortunately the media doesn't usually provide that. They can take a poll of Americans, and omit the fact that it's a kindergarten class.