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[–]HeyImSancho 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I agree, but not at the same time. This idea of 'gun violence' is one of the more stupid things in known history; for the most part it's a created boogie man figure by the MSM. Cars, bats, hammers, knives, doctors, and the list goes on in regards to the worst killers; we can add heart attack, and cancer to the list; not many to any 'stop xyz violence', is there???!

On that note, I think a campaign to stop the AMA, and FDA, and an open audit across the alopathic medicine arena is in store; "#stopmedicalviolence"...... Why not? doctor malpractice is the 3rd leading cause of death today. Note I said, 'malpractice', there's another good chunk of the actual medicine they use that's down right evil on it's own.

As far as drugs, and guns? We could put that to all the other leading causes of death, and perhaps be more accurate.

[–]FormosaOolong 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Finally, a sensible solution.

[–]JasonCarswell 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

2017

[–]dcjogger[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Wow.

The US is now a police state where everything is illegal and Americans have no rights.

The 1% could confiscate guns and order Americans to go to the concentration camps tomorrow, but the ruling class do not have the manpower and the camps have not built yet.

The elites seem to prefer to slowly kill every possible bit of freedom. Yesterday bump stocks were banned, today silencers will be banned, and pistols will be outlawed tomorrow.

Not only are the ruling powers determined to kill off the 99%, Americans are embracing their slavery with glee.

The media screams the USA must bomb Iran and Americans clap with delight.

The elites say debt doesn't matter and Americans agree.

Trump could decree that every American get their thumbs chopped off with machetes and Americans would jump with joy.

Have Americans ever read a history book?

Americans today could either be a zombie and willing accomplice to US wars, debt, and tyranny and remain silent, attack the government, or look for a way to escape.

What kind of life do you have now when you must lie to your wife about your plans because you're afraid the NSA will hear you on her mobile phone?

Americans need to go hardcore about resisting the police state now.

Increase your privacy and become anonymous.

https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2014/10/7-privacy-tools-essential-making-citizenfour

Use gold, cash, and barter.

Avoid taxes.

Research buying a boat, submarine, or an island.

Try to avoid security cameras, license plate readers, and redlight cameras.

Americans really should try to live like the Amish or a primitive tribe in the Amazon or Vietnam.

Once you have a SSN and a name and the government has your fingerprints and DNA, the elites know who to look for when they launch their final solution against the 99%.

Do you think the ruling class will be able kick the debt can down the road for another 2, 5, 10, or 30 years?

https://www.forgottentribes.com/blogs/lifestyle/hmong-fashion-the-people-their-history-and-their-textile-legacy

https://finalchan.net/sp/index.html

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

replace it with a war on homeless people begging and robbing to get money to buy drugs

[–]dcjogger[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Does anyone get the feeling that anyone supporting the police state now is a paid NSA shill?

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2011/mar/17/us-spy-operation-social-networks

[–]dcjogger[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Maybe crime is at an all time high because everything is illegal.

[–]black_hole_son 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Just get rid of the guns. (and end failed war on drugs)

[–]bald-janitor 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

No u

[–]gretathroatborg2 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

you consistently post garbage. makes me wonder who (((you))) are

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (14 children)

Gun violence will be solved and you won't like it. If you think drugs are what causes violence.

[–]Zahn 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

It was demonstrated to you previously that certain ethnic groups in the U.S. commit the vast majority of gun violence. It's peculiar that you have no commentary on that.

Since you're sooo smart....what causes violence?

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

Hoowy. Nonsense bullshit. Guns kill why won't you grow a pair and say the fact. Drugs compound the idiots who need guns. Mostly you want to blame somebody for it. No gun. no killing. Seems like your to pussy to admit it. Even a bigger flaw is you childish idea it's not the gun its brown people. You can live this way but tell me you got any answers you can't because you refuse to address theissue coward

[–]Zahn 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

You're a funny yet intellectually challenged troll. If guns kill people, and not the actual people using them then explain why gun free London has a higher violence rate than New York City.

You're the one who admitted to living in fear of open carry. Sheer projection from you. Nice but weak sophistry from you as well.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

Guns kill. Less guns less killing. As for your violence take on this I could care less. Guns kill. You won't change my mind. By scapegoating me. If you refuse to accept my first point well then looks like we got us a true Mexican standoff me without the gun you with. Guns kill. Blaming everything but them is your bag man.

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

Not really. Maybe less killing from guns, but homicides might stay the same. Start with the basics. Where does all the gun violence come from. Metropolitian areas with a population greater than 100,000. Now specifically where in these regions? Usually in poor neighborhoods with a large african american population. What causes people to commit violence with GUNS, Drugs. Drug violence, poor education, and POVERTY.

If you were to take away all the inner cities, the US would have a homicide rate from guns and violent crime rate near baltic levels. Rurals areas, like in Vermont, who also have high guns per capita have VERY LOW gun crime. Plus since 1994 -2013, violent crime has decreased 54% and gun homicides 47% as per FBI statistics.

Most of the current stats are do to the legalization of PSYOPS in 2012.

its that simple, fix wealth inequality, education, poverty and drug violence and you fix homicides and violent crime.

But politicans want to focus on mental illness which is so stupid considering over 50% of the population will be diagnosed with some sort of mental illness in their lifetime, liek anxiety, which SHOULD NOT prevent you from owning a gun. Why? Because study after study show that there is no correlation between mental illness and gun violence. In fact the general popualtion has a higher porpensity to commit a gun crime.

Now, MEN and drug usage and gun crime, there's a correlation there. But politicians don't focus on these areas, why?

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

No guns less killing simple in its reality. Violence will happen yes but not at the end of a gun. Politicians are who we say they are. Me I'm just fine with regulating the militia. You don't like that then move to nobody but has laws fuck up as us get the point. Your insistence that people with guns are not to be feared childish and you know this. The gun is the issue. I will add this you have had 200+ years to take over our government. You have failed. I blame you. Fix the real issue that is guns. Nothing you say makes a bit of sense unless you address guns loose in America. As a right. The law is an ass. My friend I can't explain what you seek neither can you. Drugs have nothing to do with guns nor do people it is the gun making all this possible.

[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Also, why are you putting words in my mouth. And you seem very angry. Guns have been a staple in america sunce its incetion. We have banned assault rifles. As human beings we do not advocate for the state to control how we protect ourselves, for the state is the most murderous of all murderers.

The gun is a tool, but the person behind it pulls the trigger. It's that simple. The solution isn't banning guns but ending psyops and researching where crime from guns is most prevelant. I gave you the answer and the reasons are obvious. Wealth Inequality, poverty, drug violence, substance abuse and poor education. These issues are what breed violence, fix them and you'll fix crimes commited with a gun. Like I've said rural areas with high guns per capita, like areas in vermont have very low gun crime. So, low, it is a non-issue.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

No guns no gun deaths seems simple to me? But still you think there is some sort of nuance to my statement. I am making my views in my declaration. Don't care about this over complicated view because of my first statement. Keep all the weapons you want just keep and use them at the armory. Except hunting. At the very least we need a census of weapons loose in America. Then we can talk we can fix this if you should get your head right and regulate the need for guns in the first place. Remember we didn't let woman vote or blacks in America either. I know this is changing with each killing while others pray away answers the NRA don't like. Vote them out.

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Not at the end of a gun? So, like I said, less guns does not always mean leas homicides. And how about the millions of responsible people with guns? I have given you the specific problems that gun-control advocates and pro-gun pro-security apparatus advocates fail to address. From there you'll find thr solutions on how to keep guns and reduce gun crime which has decreased exponentially aince 1994.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Again my goal is no guns on the streets. No guns means no gun deaths. Not crime. We can deal with crime just look around all those police need a new job. The whole premise of the second was to check government. You failed at that experiment. Therefore the law is an ass. Nibleing around the edges has got us 30k dead this year dead because they owned or felt they had to shoot a guy because he had a gun to begin with. Not logically honest. Solves nothing and hurts thousands. Not good government by any matrix. The laws is the ass here it's simple.

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Okay, great. So we agree to disagree. But no guns allowed does not = no guns. A black market will emerge and many criminals in inner cities will still obtain guns of all kinds. As for law abiding citizens who are reaponsible gun owners, do you suppose we take guns away from them, even inrural areas with gun crime near Baltic levels?

The whole premise of the second was to check government.

The 2nd is part of the co stitution but common law and God's law means us as humans have a right to own any weapon. So, as I've stated, responsible gun owners will hold onto their guns.

You failed at that experiment.

No we didn't and surely if the US did impose martial law, and tried to ban all guns, gun owners would defend their rights as human beings.

Therefore the law is an ass.

It is, but your views are too.

Nibbling around the edges has got us 30k dead this year.

Most are suicides. The gun isn't the reason, for if it was no suicides would occur. Men commit the most suicides because many are disenfranchised, impoverished, have infections are in serious debt and have no way out.

BAN PSYOPS, an YOU FIX mass shootings.

[–]nygal 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Americans say tyranny is wonderful because the US has always been a police state, but what if the USA used to have freedom and lost it?

Even if the US never had freedom, does that mean liberty is bad?

Did the USA have curfews, NSA wiretapping, checkpoints, forfeiture, the end to the right to silence, free speech bans, torture, kill lists, no fly lists, searches without warrants, private prisons, mandatory minimums, 3 strikes laws, DNA databases, CISPA, SOPA, NDAA, IMBRA, FBAR, FATCA, TSA groping, secret FISA courts, redlight cameras, license plate readers, and Jade Helm in 1980?

Did Americans have gun bans, business licenses, Social Security numbers, sales, income, or property taxes in 1890?

Were drugs, alcohol, smoking, gambling, and prostitution illegal in 1880?