Vegetables aren't vegan. That's right, if they were grown with manure or other animal products, they aren't good enough. Because obviously artificial chemical fertilizers are the way to go. Even though manure is the best way to convert dirt to soil that we know of.

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[–]RatherSmallPotato 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Sounds like someone was trolling him but he took it to heart.

[–]mikipika 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Using this flawed logic, meat eaters are vegetarian. Cows eat hay, grass, etc. So let's just STOP this nonsense. Eat healthy, let other people make diet choices without the need to resort to shaming, bullyi g, name-calling. In other words, grow up.

[–]useless_aether 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (14 children)

Professor Mona Seymour of Marymount Loyola University

^ jesuits poisoning nature and coercing us into buying rockefeller petrochemical based fertilizers.

the humus in the soil is earthworm poo, insect frass and excrement of soil foodweb microorganisms breaking down organic matter. and petrochemicals will disrupt the soil foodweb and destroy our topsoils leading to desertification.

otoh, manure from ruminants will revitalize exploited soil, rumen is magic. http://www.arc2020.eu/soilmatters-stuart-miekle-on-soil-ruminants-sustainable-food/

[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

Mona Seymour

IS NOT A JESUIT... For crying out loud, I got a scholarship to a Jesuit owned school, it doesn't mean I had to become a Jesuit.

https://dgsqcxi9lxx8v.cloudfront.net/125962/58230_31838_150x150_circle.jpg

^ ^ ^ You mean this person who went to a Jesuit owned school but who is not jesuit and who wrote this article on organic farming, as an advocate for organic farming and as a vegan:

https://experiment.com/projects/growing-veganic-exploring-plant-based-agriculture-in-the-united-states

Yup, it's the Jesuits, even when it's not the Jesuits.

Mona states:

About two years ago I became involved in organizing around veganic growing with Seed the Commons, a San Francisco-based vegan food sovereignty organization, and have also begun to take an academic approach to veganics, as there is little qualitative, social science research that might help us better understand and support this practice.

She advocates Organic Veganic growing. But again, she's not against organic manure.

​Veganic agriculture is organic agriculture that is free from farmed animal inputs. While organic agriculture avoids use of chemical pesticides and fertilizers and GMOs, veganic farming additionally avoids farmed animal byproducts including manure, fish emulsion, feather meal, blood meal, and bone meal. Instead, farmers enhance soil fertility through the use of methods and practices such as plant-based composts and green manures.

Veganic farming constitutes a response to numerous animal rights, environmental, and health concerns connected to animal agriculture. In rejecting the use of farmed animal wastes, veganic growing practices delink plant farming from the systematic exploitation of animals for food. Most of the animal waste used for soil fertility in organic agriculture is derived from factory farm operations, which are substantial greenhouse gas producers; veganic agriculture avoids directly subsidizing this climate-impactful industry. And, antibiotics that may still be present in trace amounts in farmed animal wastes are not introduced to veganic farm fields.

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

But it's the Jesuits, and it's Mona, the not Jesuit, who really is one, advocating Organic farming but not really?

[–]useless_aether 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

you can't be too paranoid about the jesuits.

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

But don't make stuff up either.

[–]useless_aether 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

IS NOT A JESUIT... For crying out loud, I got a scholarship to a Jesuit owned school, it doesn't mean I had to become a Jesuit.

did you really ? because i can already sense you are biased!

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Yes, Holy Cross and one other Jesuit school as well as many others not Jesuit affiliated. That doesn't mean people who attend Holy Cross become Jesuits upon graduation, it doesn't work like that. You literally made something up because of your biases and claimed the exavt opposite of what this Mona teaches.

[–]useless_aether 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

well, don't even pretend to be unbiased then, because i will surely not treat you as such

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

What? I never went to the school. I'm saying thousands upon thousands go to Holy Cross who are not Jesuits. It's just a college.

That's it. The school which membership is under Jesuit shareholders does not make students Jesuits or Jesuit controlled. I'm telling you that saying someone is a Jesuit because they went to a college such as Holly Cross is ignorance.

You did it here with Mona and even tried to say she promotes synthetic fertilizers when she does the exact opposite.

[–]useless_aether 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

you are wrong. shareholders call the shots. a basic fact of life.

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

And yet, that doesn't make a student a or graduate a Jesuit.

[–]useless_aether 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

they determine the curriculum, the teachers, the complete didactic method, the rules and the environment. this is plenty enough to shape or should i say corrupt pliable young minds into whatever they want.

the jesuits are fighting the reformation with 'learning'. it's called 'learning against learning' (http://continuingcounterreformation.blogspot.com/2010/12/romes-learning-against-learning.html). another basic fact about jesuits. education is their main weapon, ysk. and:

The Ignatian pedagogical paradigm is a way of learning and a method of teaching taken from the Spiritual Exercises of Ignatius of Loyola.[1][2] It is based in St. Ignatius Loyola's Spiritual Exercises, and takes a holistic view of the world.[3]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignatian_Pedagogical_Paradigm

so as you can see, they aim at fundamentally perverting the pupils worldview into their own. this is called brainwashing; it is completely sinister.

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

And yet, there's nothing inherently wrong with Loyola's spiritual teachings. I don't seem to find anything odd or against God in his exercise book.

Experience, Reflection, and Action. A pre-learning element, Context, and a post-learning element, Evaluation, are also necessary for the method's success

Doesn't seem to bad...

Learners gather and recollect their own experiences in order to understand what they know already in terms of facts, feelings, values, insights and intuitions they bring to the current study.

I see nothing wrong with this sort of learning. It breeds critical thinking if anything.

[–]Vigte 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

That's the least of their problems, right now

[–]mrchoco4 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

need nitrogen fixation in soil dumbass

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Grass will do it.