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[–]Canbot 8 insightful - 3 fun8 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 3 fun -  (5 children)

That is not directly a vaccine injury, it is caused by shingles. However, having a compromised immune system leads to the emergence of shingles and the jab does compromise the immune system.

[–][deleted] 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

That is not directly a vaccine injury, it is caused by shingles. However, having a compromised immune system leads to the emergence of shingles and the jab does compromise the immune system.

Yes, and people his age do not get shingles unless they are immunocompromised. I didn't wanna make the headline too complicated

[–]StillLessons 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

While I am actually in full agreement with you on the likelihood that both Bieber's and his wife's illnesses are related to C-19 death jabs, in the name of full disclosure, I have to note that I had shingles in my early 20s back in the 1980s before it was a thing anyone paid any attention to. Shingles can appear at any time in a person who went through the chickenpox as a child. To the point of "immunocompromised", I will add that I was treating myself like crap when I got shingles (drinking and partying too much; I was in college), so yes, my system was weakened. And though this data doesn't mean anything, I will also point out that in my case, the shingles was extremely light (some gland swelling on one side with associated minor pain), with nothing like the serious situation in which Bieber now finds himself.

All this said, having these two young people both come down with very serious symptoms associated with these jabs, assuming we know that they were jabbed (is this confirmed?), I fully agree that rather than looking for zebras, I'd be looking at the horse in front of us, and dig very deep into the likelihood they fall into the ever-growing millions of severe vaccine injuries we are tragically living through in our era on this Earth.

[–]Canbot 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I get it, just wanted to add context so people have a better understanding before they spread this information.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I know children (long before COVID) who've had serious cases of shingles lasting for years, due to having serious psychological and nervious conditions, and know that anyone at any age can get them without having a compromised immune system. I only have an MD in armchair medicine, but this info is easy to find. I don't know or care what happened to Bieber, but COVID jabs have been tracked among billions of doses, without any mention of shingles that I've seen. Bieber's last shot was likely over 6 months go. That said, if a Saiditor were to get the COVID shot, they'd not only get shingles, they'd likely die.

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Interesting, I did not realize that younger people could get shingles, it seems they can, but it is rare. As for the shingles, that IS actually a documented side effect of the vaccine (but also rare). We will likely never know, but I'm not convinced it wasn't the vaccine

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33838206/

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34719084/

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8217581/

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/jocd.14521

[–][deleted] 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I think these poor bastards are getting vaxed so that they can tour? Holy shit, this poor bastard. Potential permanent hearing damage.

[–]package 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

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[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Ha!

[–]rubberbiscuit 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (10 children)

I've never heard of anyone under 50 getting shingles. I don't even think you can get the shingles vaccine until you are 50. Some-ting smell fishy.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

I don't even think you can get the shingles vaccine until you are 50

You are correct.

[–]StillLessons 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

As per my comment above to HongKongPhooey, I can tell you it is possible to get shingles in your 20s - I did. Why they don't vaccinate before 50 I don't know. Given the more we are learning about vaccination and the industry behind it, however, I am out of just about out of all vaccines at this point, so it doesn't matter. The "vaccine industry" is being clearly demonstrated as among the centers of moral corruption in our world today. Scary times.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

The vaccine was only tested in people 50 and older, so that's what it's FDA approved for. Apparently "Some adults 19 years and older with weakened immune systems may also get two doses of shingles vaccine" as per the cdc site. I didn't know that.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

In my day we just had chickenpox parties as kids, got over it in a couple of days and that was that. None of this 'shingles vaccine' malarkey.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

I did too, that's why you get shingles. You never really get rid of the chicken pox virus, you just keep it in check. When it comes back it's shingles.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I just read that the shingles vaccine is fairly variable in effectiveness and only lasts a few years. Imagine pumping full of COVID, flu, shingles and other vaccines every year in fear of illness. It's a wonder the immune system can cope that that level of interference.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Shingles can be really nasty with lingering nerve pain. That one I kinda want to avoid personally.

[–]StillLessons 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

In general, our medical culture is vastly over-treating and vastly under-analyzing the health of their patients. Rather than do the hard work of figuring out the universe within which symptoms are appearing (i.e. root causes in actual "health"), doctors are working from a series of algorithms which lead to unique treatment for each symptom that appears. This leads precisely where we are. Just as you say, there are now so many different interventions attacking so many separate "causes" that it is a huge stretch to credulity that they actually understand the insanely complex cross-reactions among all the various treatments they're loading their patients with. This is a very serious problem I see discussed very little within the institutions of medicine. The doctors themselves are aware of this problem, but the hospital networks within which money has concentrated are creating very destructive incentives regarding treatment. The amount of money being pumped into vaccines (all in the purely capitalistic expectation of profit; that's why Bill Gates is doing this, after all) is a poster child for the monster under the bed in our modern sick-care system.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Such a valid point, the potential cross reaction and long term effects are widely unknown or ignored on the basis that statistically, individual treatments are safe for the majority. Treatments themselves seem to be distributed willynilly these days, aside from vaccines, antibiotics are handed out like candy, often not even for the appropriate infection. I've seen people given amoxicillin for a common cold before now. It's not helped by a population driven to living in fear of social contact and being permanently paranoid of microbes that they see a doctor for stitches for nothing more than a scratch or getting a bandage for a split toenail. The system is broken, and it's likely to be causing more long term social damage to health than actually helping people. We're in that predicament now where we've eradicated measles to the point that more people die from the vaccine than the virus.

[–]StillLessons 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The closest thing I see to hope at this point would be for patients to progressively (over time) abandon the large networks and find our way into the newer "boutique" practices (pay-for-service, insurance cut out of the middle). I don't know enough about this model to speak knowledgeably, but I am confident "health insurance" (which is a monstrous linguistic lie in itself for what this payment system does) is the biggest part of the puzzle. These huge third-party elements between patient and doctor must be killed, and killed very dead.

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Hailey has age inappropriate health issues too. I'd be concerned it has to do with their drug use or an environmental cause. Even a poisoning

[–]Canbot 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Being rich I don't think they have to deal with pollution or poor quality food and water. But drugs do age you, so everyone who does them degrades thier health and looks (and essentially is) older.

That is the beauty of how the jab works. By simply degrading the immune system the effects aren't seen until another factor comes into play and it is easy to blame that other factor. But it is essentially the same effect as doing drugs. It's fun to watch people happily acknowledge that someone's unusual health problems are probably due to thier drug use, but those same people will absolutely refuse to make the same connection with the jab.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Being rich I don't think they have to deal with pollution or poor quality food and water.

He was living in a renovated 1930s mansion owned previously by Charles Infante, a famous Hollywood producer, and more recently a mansion built in the 1980s and recently renovated. I imagine any number of nasty unknown substances might be present.

[–]StillLessons 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

That occurred to me as well. I don't know what their "partying" history is. Based on his quotes, he's putting forth the "believer in God" image, which would suggest that they are not actually partiers. That said, what his PR image is versus reality is anyone's guess. I have no idea.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Bieber has admitted to his past drug abuse, apparently it really heavy when he was 19, and at some point Hailey helped him get sober. Supposedly. He's reborn or something now.

Now Hailey I don't know. She drinks. She was a rather thin model.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

When celebraties admit to 'drug abuse', they just mean they had a load of fun but it was harming their reputation when it went public, so they claim they 'needed help' to get the sympathy vote when they can no longer get away with enjoying themselves. Society is ridiculously judgemental towards drink and drug use and they easily fall for the drug abuse story.

[–]Canbot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

they just mean they had a load of fun

🤣🤣😂🤣😂🤣 yeah, ok buddy.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Oh, and they "didn't inhale". How naive.

[–]HanssenBob 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Or just had his Botox too close to his eyelid.

[–]IkeConn 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

If he had pumped iron instead of tattoo ink he could be a major movie star.