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[–]RuckFeddit 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (18 children)

Hahaha, was just joking about this on discord with friends yesterday that we'd see a facebook post along similar lines. Meme magic boys

[–]Chipit[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

This is an official court document.

[–]RuckFeddit 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Which makes it all the more hilarious. What we thought was hilarious and batshit still wasn't enough.

[–]Enza 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I know you're talking about serious, political coincidences, but the Shadilay song will always be a wtf from me..

The Single Info:

  • Artist: P.E.P.E.

  • Cover Art: Frog with a magic wand, "Magic Sound"

  • Prod. by "ASS. ART", (P.E.P.E.), 1986

  • P.E.P.E stands for Point Emerging, Probably Entering.

And this was way before the infamous Pepe meme was even around, let alone mainstream-use of the internet. Then when you read the lyrics..

Cosmic absolute, regular reality

Breath of an image, symphony of civilizations

Confused descendants of rebel cells

I fly towards the universe, I'll pass through it

If you are a star, show yourself, I will stop

Metallic harmony, concrete reality

Electronic video-clip, praise of civilizations

Confused descendants of rebel cells

I fly towards the universe, I'll pass through it

If you are a star, show yourself, I will stop

[Chorus]

Shadilay shadilay my freedom, shadilay shadilay oh no

Shadilay shadilay oh dream or reality, shadilay shadilay oh no

(you) fly into my life, no it's not finished

I will stop

Set my sails, in the sky or at the bottom of the sea

I will believe in you

The song is also literally all about reality, whether it be a dream or actually real, and one celebrating their individual freedom.

[–]Enza 2 insightful - 4 fun2 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

I'll say it again for him!

Meme magic boys

It was written in stone!

Praise Kek, praise Thoth! I wanna see them take on Moloch in a giant Kaiju battle.

[–]magnora7 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (13 children)

This stuff causes the memes, not the other way around

[–]Enza 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (10 children)

That song/record didn't influence Matt Furie to make the Boys Club comic series, which happened to have a frog named Pepe as one of four main characters, and out of all characters, be the one to randomly go viral and also become one of the most popular memes/meme templates we've seen.

It's just a series of odd coincidences if you ask me personally. Some people take it very seriously (I don't lol), but the record/song is perfect in context with the pepe meme and how it's used today. It's strange how in this case, that record did come way before Pepe the frog lol. Sp00ky, fun coincidence 2 me.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

Speaking of coincidences!

Our brains are wired to be biased at interpreting patterns along sets of data. Synchronicity of events and our interpretation of meaning behind them, can almost seem like... Magic on a subjective level. But it is purely coincidental and random or repeating iterations as part of the geometries in the time-space continuum. Also they can be manipulated or put in place by another actor artificially.

This is the also the mechanism of magicians and how the elite rule over the masses and control their societies; by pulling those mind strings of personal biases/hysteria and placating them with stimulation. (Prophecies, church, politics, business, tribalism etc.)

AN example of this: I was recently reading upon the history of Rome and Caesar's assassination on 44 BC and his nephew, Augustus being considered as the first emperor around 45 BC (though he never claimed the title himself).

Before Caesar's "dictator perpetuo" was established in 44 BC- Rome was a constitutional republic with the senate handling affairs. Upon 44 to 45 B.C., Rome had fallen into a civil war due to Caesar's assassination and Augustus had became next ruler of the constitutional republic in (an emperor's name) on 45 B.C.

These things sound pretty familiar to our current state of things- is it the (still roman) elite's handiwork?

44th President: Barack Obama, constitutional republic.

45th President: Donald Trump "God Emperor" (Alt-right title).

44 B.C. to 45 B.C. - (ITT: Civil war)

Anyway, the point of this is to elucidate the limitations of our mind. Not to propel self-fulfilling prophecies because our minds have a lazy compulsion to do so, and that is probably what the alt-right has been doing with the pepe meme. Rome ended up falling even harder as time progressed and there is STILL a lot of data that is totally random and ignored in this conjecture. So its not all correct, even though our minds would like for it to be. In a way, its a neat little trick! Or possibly a cloak-dagger conspiracy of the elite's handiwork behind the curtain and their troll agents. But never magic or chaos-magic that pepe stands for.

In fact, bubbles are formed and burst inexorably due to subjective mass-conscious consent of certain recognized and exploited patterns. The end result is never pretty.

So the final point is:

Beware of the tricks, of the wanna-be elite and their meme agents!

[–]Enza 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

You deleted your account an hour after you made this post, you didn't even give me a chance to reply! :(

The gifs were great btw!

May I ask, what do you have against chaos-magick?

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

What would thoth have against chaos magick?

(Rhetorical question)

[–]Enza 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

But chaos magick doesn't necessarily have to be used for political purposes, or for nefariously manipulating reality unbeknownst to the majority (Thoth is often associated with wisdom, truth and record-keeping, but he was also associated with art, magic and science - so I'm not sure what you mean here); it could be used for literally any purpose, including spreading light, positivity and the truth. Just because the majority call it "chaos magic", doesn't mean it results in or relates with chaos in negative way - some refer to it as "success magic" or "neo-western occultism".

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

lol, after that long post that I typed; you still don't get it. The internet is so interesting, all this participation yet still so much bias (I wonder if its because politics is involved?)!

I'll have to break it down point by point. Hopefully, it'll do the trick; but I am essentially repeating myself. And if only you could read or understand between the lines.

chaos magick doesn't necessarily have to be used for political purposes, or for nefariously manipulating reality unbeknownst to the majority

Except it is. Everything ends up being political as long as hierarchies and bureaucracies of power are centralized, Its kind of moot. Even the theory of splitting an atom was turned into a political powerhouse, people hunting and gathering- politics is involved. Fishing in a river- politics is involved. Art and design- politics gets involved etc. etc. There is not one thing that is popular that politics will not get involved in; despite the idealistic notion that it doesn't have to be that way. The path to that involves not having centralized power with a top down hierarchical system with agencies going rogue at convenience to cement their standing.

Thoth is often associated with wisdom, truth and record-keeping, but he was also associated with art, magic and science - so I'm not sure what you mean here

You forgot one thing, Thoth was also involved in justice as an incorruptible judge of the dead. Its why the heart was weighed against a feather, to determine purity as a ritual.

it could be used for literally any purpose, including spreading light, positivity and the truth. Just because the majority call it "chaos magic", doesn't mean it results in or relates with chaos in negative way - some refer to it as "success magic" or "neo-western occultism".

I appreciate the idealistic notions of neutrality, but it is no defense against the "results" of chaos or success magic. If you really wanted to be neutral, thou wouldn't seek to "control" chaos in an "own" way. If things go out of hand then than the hands will also go out of their way! See ya around kid.

[–]Enza 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

If you really wanted to be neutral, thou wouldn't seek to "control" chaos in an "own" way. If things go out of hand then than the hands will also go out of their way!

So you're basically saying using it alone, for any purpose, is wrong. Life is chaos to some - don't get too caught up in that word, some could argue chaos and freedom (or free-will) are synonymous. I understood your original post, but don't understand the reasoning behind your following posts; if you're going to using the political angle as your argument, where you said this:

Everything ends up being political as long as hierarchies and bureaucracies of power are centralized, Its kind of moot. Even the theory of splitting an atom was turned into a political powerhouse, people hunting and gathering- politics is involved. Fishing in a river- politics is involved. Art and design- politics gets involved etc. etc.

Wouldn't breathing be political too, since those who breathe run and are involved in political institutions and those who don't, don't? So should we just stop breathing and let things be, because things do get more fucky, complex and complicated when humans continue to breathe, develop and get involved?

Its why the heart was weighed against a feather, to determine purity as a ritual.

I don't see what purity has to do with this, as "chaos magick" can be very personal and again, doesn't have to be "chaotic in nature" or involve non-pure intention - whoever is "practicing" could borrow beliefs from any school of thought; "Hellenism", or the modern worship of a Greek God as a Tutelary Diety is becoming very popular. At the core of all "chaos magick", is using "personal belief" as a "magickal tool". In some aspects, it almost follows the "fake-it-'till-you-make-it" philosophy, with one's personal flavor of "esoteric belief" added in. It's more in vein of an expansion pack to "The Secret" than any other real hardcore occult stuff.

"The Secret is based on the belief of the law of attraction, which claims that thoughts can change a person's life directly."

That's the focus of "chaos magick" - believing, basically in one's self and their ideal reality or intentions, and their ability to change reality through their belief, not "chaos". This is all usually on a small scale, and again, for personally, positively improving one's life. "Chaos" in it's typical definition of the word doesn't have to be involved. Sometimes Sigils with the user's intent are put into them and are used to help channel their belief/intent. I don't see what's so inherently negative, not pure, or dangerous about this? Sure it could be used for negative reasons, but so could any other tool.

Like you said your self, this isn't too different from art - An incredibly popular and influential artist could inject messages into their art of their own volition (propaganda, not necessarily political in origin, maybe spiritual?), and alter their reality on a mass scale without having "practiced any magick at all", as to them, they were just creating art and adding their personal beliefs into it.

Also, just in case you didn't see me mention it, it's like not like I actively believe or practice this stuff, I have read about it though and do find it interesting. It's like the case of the chicken and the egg; does you believing your belief and intent as well as whatever philosophy/occult practices you subscribe to change your reality, actually change your reality, or is it the fact that you've adopted a new mind-set and maybe also physically set-out to manifest your "new reality", that's changed it? The obvious answer seems like it would be the latter, but there's interesting scenarios where it seems like it's the former once you look into them.

My favorite (and imo, the most interesting) "occultist", is John Dee.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4juXgHIZ6E

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

You misunderstood the context of my argument to begin with. There is no need to type so much lol.

So you're basically saying using it alone, for any purpose, is wrong.

Nope, not at all. I'm saying that elitists or wanna-be elitists (like the loose example: alt-right) who utilize chaos magic to influence world events and end up committing crimes- will be judged by the very same scale they throw out of balance inevitably. That is the hidden danger in all this because the effect of it will snow-ball. Case in point: pepe! (Wasn't really a coincidence).

Wouldn't breathing be political too, since those who breathe run and are involved in political institutions and those who don't, don't? So should we just stop breathing and let things be, because things do get more fucky, complex and complicated when humans continue to breathe, develop and get involved?

I... what. huh? Let me clarify these posts since they are prone to misunderstanding and expanding needlessly:

Breathing is political because elitist douches can mess up the air, forcing generations of people to be predisposed to diseases down the road. Do you think those industries are practicing chaos magick or science magick? Marketing, Engineering, Design, social control, Power and hierarchy? The answer is yes.

The rest of the topic seems irrelevant since the basis of my argument was: evil idiots utilizing some sort of magic in the wrong way to achieve political ends; and the masses that fall for the trap and get hurt. I don't care if anyone wants to believe in magic or practice it since it barely holds up to the mantle of real fact and reasoning since the only trick is how our primitive brains are predisposed to its "shiny" effects.

However, crimes shall always go to court! :)

[–]Chipit[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

https://www.ecosophia.net/the-kek-wars-part-one-aristocracy-and-its-discontents/

Magical thinking is part of what got Trump elected in the first place. This is a brilliant 4-part series that explores it in detail. It makes a lot of sense.

[–]Enza 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Thank you for linking, this series was an interesting read - Kek aside. Whenever I read articles like this, it feels like a reconfirmation of my belief in The Law of One, or that we are all one being or consciousness experiencing reality from multiple perspectives.

"It’s worth noting here that the things that get projected onto the Shadow needn’t be morally bad in any conventional sense. In an earlier episode of this series, for example, I mentioned the Traditionalist thinker Julius Evola. Read his writings and you’ll find them full of sneering contempt toward the modern world for its softness and its humanitarianism—this latter is a dirty word in Evola’s vocabulary. What was going on, to judge from accounts written by people who knew Evola in person, was that he loathed his own capacities for kindness, gentleness, and compassion, and so loaded them onto the Shadow he projected onto the society around him. The Revolt Against the Modern World he wrote about in his most famous book, as such things always are, was ultimately a revolt against himself."

And what separates manipulation of perspectives or personal realities and experiences, as well as the use of "psychology" for such purposes, from what some may define as magick? That was something interesting this series brought up.

[–]AnarchySpeach 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

A new phrase has entered the American consciousness:

To pull an Epstein.

What a world we live in, where the rich control so much, and with expert assassins at their command. We're living in a movie.

[–]Chipit[S] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Just "epstein", the verb. No need for extra words.

Sample sentence: Hillary sure wants to epstein Tulsi badly.

[–]Enza 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

We're living in a movie.

The whole world is a stage!

[–]AnarchySpeach 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

So many people enjoy living the lie.

So many people enjoy watching the show.

Very few are willing to leave all they have known.