Tulsi Gabbard's attorney states in legal filing against Hillary Clinton: "She has never experienced, does not currently experience, and does not expect to experience, thoughts of suicide."

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You misunderstood the context of my argument to begin with. There is no need to type so much lol.

So you're basically saying using it alone, for any purpose, is wrong.

Nope, not at all. I'm saying that elitists or wanna-be elitists (like the loose example: alt-right) who utilize chaos magic to influence world events and end up committing crimes- will be judged by the very same scale they throw out of balance inevitably. That is the hidden danger in all this because the effect of it will snow-ball. Case in point: pepe! (Wasn't really a coincidence).

Wouldn't breathing be political too, since those who breathe run and are involved in political institutions and those who don't, don't? So should we just stop breathing and let things be, because things do get more fucky, complex and complicated when humans continue to breathe, develop and get involved?

I... what. huh? Let me clarify these posts since they are prone to misunderstanding and expanding needlessly:

Breathing is political because elitist douches can mess up the air, forcing generations of people to be predisposed to diseases down the road. Do you think those industries are practicing chaos magick or science magick? Marketing, Engineering, Design, social control, Power and hierarchy? The answer is yes.

The rest of the topic seems irrelevant since the basis of my argument was: evil idiots utilizing some sort of magic in the wrong way to achieve political ends; and the masses that fall for the trap and get hurt. I don't care if anyone wants to believe in magic or practice it since it barely holds up to the mantle of real fact and reasoning since the only trick is how our primitive brains are predisposed to its "shiny" effects.

However, crimes shall always go to court! :)

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You misunderstood the context of my argument to begin with. There is no need to type so much lol.

Well, actually there is when I'm trying to understand/have a discussion with you, and you're being purposefully vague and ambiguous with what you mean, asking me to read in-between the lines as if I know you, while you keep deleting your accounts so I have no idea where you're coming from/stand, and you write so little while being so vague.

From the very beginning, before you responded to me, when I was discussing chaos-magick, I stated I wasn't discussing the pepe-kek scenario (but found some of the coincidences interesting or fun). You were still hung up on that pepe topic lol. So now I do understand, we were having two different conversations.

"May I ask, what do you have against chaos-magick?"

"What would thoth have against chaos magick?

(Rhetorical question)"

That's ambiguous af, and I was simply asking what you had against this "practice of magick" that really isn't too different from The Secret, a thought tool, or psychological tool that basically follows the "fake-it-'till-you-make-it" philosophy, when used to improve one's personal life. You continued going down the political and purity angle despite my side of the conversation being clear, which is what I did not understand.

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I was simply asking what you had against this "practice of magick" that really isn't too different from The Secret, a thought tool, or psychological tool that basically follows the "fake-it-'till-you-make-it" philosophy, when used to improve one's personal life. You continued going down the political and purity angle despite my side of the conversation being clear, which is what I did not understand.

Well, I do understand your side of the conversation but, the basis of my argument (which is antithetical) still remains the same. The political-purity angle isn't the cornerstone of it, it is the ideological-subjective component in chaos magick or "the secret" which is what makes it so dangerous due to its ephemeral and irrational nature appealing to our faulty wiring in perception; thus distorting clear minded thinking both for the subject and the masses by a magician. I only utilized that political-purity angle as a way to argue-within the ideology, of warnings that were placed there-in; whom the practitioners have to adhere to (thoth).

But as it stands, chaos magick and the secret is a subjective tool of confusion and misdirection. Its why it is also exploited by politicians upon the citizenry to fool them into subservience. Same thing with magic tricks, there is no magic; just tricks. (Kek/Pepe)

The magic is all you! But none of it is real.

Same thing with "coincidences" and "conspiracy plots"- a hidden hand, but no magic.

Now I'd rather not keep repeating myself on this topic because its getting to be a dead horse, but if none of this makes sense; then I'll guess you just have to figure it out yourself over time. Good luck!