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[–]repptyle 12 insightful - 2 fun12 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

I'm seeing the companies but I'm not seeking the alternatives in what you linked? In some cases it seems impossible to boycott certain companies if there's no viable alternative. For example, I don't think I could boycott Home Depot AND Lowe's. From what I've heard, Home Depot would seem to be the better option if you were to choose one or the other.

[–]whistlepig 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

There are a lot of medium or smaller hardware stores that sell most of the same stuff and it doesn't take a couple minutes to walk from one end to the other. As far as building supplies and lumber there are local institutions that the commercial guys frequent that would also be happy to sell to you as well. It all kind of depends on your locale though. Also there are franchises like "Builders Discount Centers".

Edit: I'll add that I've already boycotted about half the big box stores in my area this spring since they got people waiting in line outside and wearing muzzles. None of the other stores I mentioned are like that. The only reason I go to those big box stores is because of speed and I'm already in the area.

[–]Aureus[S] 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

This is an excellent resource, thanks!

Do you have any other tips on alternatives you'd be willing to share?

[–]LesbianOutlaw 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

I'm seeing the companies but I'm not seeking the alternatives in what you linked? In some cases it seems impossible to boycott certain companies if there's no viable alternative. For example, I don't think I could boycott Home Depot AND Lowe's. From what I've heard, Home Depot would seem to be the better option if you were to choose one or the other.

Home Depot & Lowe's: There are lots of smaller hardware stores around.
Disney/Netflix/Hollywood/etc: That's easy. Piracy.
Gilette/Nike/etc: There's a shitload of razor and shoe manufacturers.
Professional sports: Sports are boring af so I've already spent my life boycotting them.
Google: Use AdBlock and DuckDuckGo

It's a ton of companies but most of them have alternative solutions.

[–]Aureus[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I need your help to research alternatives. I made this thread because I have some idea of the bad companies, but I can't uncover all of the bad companies and find alternatives alone. I also need other people to share the boycott list once it's compiled. Would you be able to assist with any of that?

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[–]One_Jack_MoveLibertarian Party 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

I'm honestly wondering why companies even get on Social Media these days, or at least Twitter.

Does seeing a brand on Twitter really drive any sales?
Seems like there is so much more to loose, than there is to gain in woke/cancel culture these days. It only a matter of time before you piss off one group or another.

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    [–][deleted] 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    they do also want to promote an agenda on society, bottom line is not always most important when they can get bailouts

    [–]jet199 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    In theory. In practice companies are made up of flawed individuals who often make decisions which hurt the bottom line and managers too nicey nicey to sack them.

    [–]Dragonerne 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    True, they all seem to be making the same mistakes, which is just a coincidence.

    [–]scrubking 9 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    The lesson is don't give money to people who hate you.

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      [–]Aureus[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      Thanks. This is a great summary because it explains the activities of each company. They all have issues but some are clearly worse than others. I'm personally more critical of companies that condemned "white privilege" than ones that give lip service to BLM. Google is terrible as well due to its association with censorship.

      I have also been putting together a summary of companies to boycott, but I want to do an exhaustive analysis of all of them. Would you be interested in helping out? Also have you considered joining the chatroom I linked above?

      [–]Zapped 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

      I will be curbing my spending on many of these based on how they chose to word their statements. I think large companies have to walk the PR line during a national social campaign that has become so big, or they get pummeled by the cancel culture. I see the statement from Lowe's CEO that is a very carefully worded, diplomatic response that would seem to satisfy the BLM camp and not offend the anti-BLM camp. I guess that's the name of the game; to offend as few of your potential customers as possible. One of the companies where I spend a lot of money will be receiving a letter from me due to the official statement of the CEO that, I feel, would further divide Americans.

      I will say that I think Coca-Cola has the right approach. Instead of throwing money at the symptom like most of these companies have done, Coca-Cola is giving money to a group that mentors youth in a way to teach self-determination. It's like the Five Monkeys experiment story. However we got here, I think we have to teach healthy habits, behavior, ethics in communities that feel like they have been lost to the rest of society. The adults feeding the storm are probably lost. The children are not.

      [–]robo1p 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      I think large companies have to walk the PR line during a national social campaign that has become so big,

      Or they could just shut up. People have a tiny attention span. How long do you think it would take them to forget that a corporation didn't say something?

      [–]Aureus[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

      I will be curbing my spending on many of these based on how they chose to word their statements.

      This seems the responsible course of action. As you say, basically every company made some statement. I personally have no issue with ones that put out standard statements of unity.

      What needs to happen is a ranked list of companies from best to worst. The companies that put out the most divisive or antagonistic statements would go at the bottom, and would be the priority to boycott. Do you have any suggestions?

      [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

      I thought some companies donated as well?

      [–]Aureus[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

      Oh, many donated. I also want to rank them by how much they donated, and who they donated to.

      A company that donated to help local businesses or something would be fine, but a company that donated to the SPLC would be very important to boycott.

      What are your thoughts on this? Would you be interested in helping out? We need more people willing to do research on this.

      [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

      It seems donating is a bigger deal than just making a statement, was what I was getting at, I guess you were already thinking that too.

      What are your thoughts on this? Would you be interested in helping out? We need more people willing to do research on this.

      I can't commit to this project because I've got other higher priority stuff I'd be irresponsible to allow myself to get diverted from. But I don't like purchasing from companies who are supporting the looting and rioting and stuff.

      [–]Aureus[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      I can't commit to this project because I've got other higher priority stuff I'd be irresponsible to allow myself to get diverted from.

      No worries. Focus on what's important.

      But I don't like purchasing from companies who are supporting the looting and rioting and stuff.

      I'll be sure to let you know once the list is complete!

      [–]Tarrock 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

      It's only worth while to make sure they know you're boycotting them by writing them letters, and don't be ignorant with the text.

      [–]Aureus[S] 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

      100% agree. That's core to what I want to do.

      For example, I don't think reddit can be effectively boycotted by not using it. However, we could contact its advertisers and let them know we won't use them as long as they support reddit's censorious policies.

      What do you think of this idea - would you be interested in helping out?

      [–]zeusdx1118 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

      More info.

      [–]Blackbrownfreestuff 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

      Target is super woke, should be near the top of the list next to gilette and nike. The problem with boycotting woke companies is that pretty much all companies are woke. I work for a small startup and they are the most disgustangly woke company i can imagine.

      [–]Aureus[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      Thanks for this. I remember Target virtue-signalling about bathrooms a few years ago. I'll have to include them.

      The problem with boycotting woke companies is that pretty much all companies are woke.

      I think there's still a few that aren't, but you're right that they're hard to find.

      I could use your help in compiling the boycott list, if you're interested. Have you considered joining the chatroom linked above? If not, I also have a sub that could work for this.

      [–]konoplya 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      target is such garbage though. i rarely go in, but whenever i do i never buy anything as there's never anything i want there.

      [–]forgottenpasswordguy 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

      Fuck levis for wanting only the rich to have the right of self defense. That's one company I won't forget.

      Anyways screw these large companies, their political statements are the least of the problems they bring. Buy less, buy local, buy quality, reuse, etc. Don't give them your money.

      [–]Aureus[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

      Buy less, buy local, buy quality, reuse, etc. Don't give them your money.

      I am fully onboard with this. I also agree to boycott Levi's. They're one of the worst.

      Have you considered joining the chatroom linked above? If not, I'm also considering starting a sub for this. Would you be interested?

      [–]forgottenpasswordguy 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

      In all honesty I probably wouldn't use the chat room too much, but I'd definitely follow a sub if you create one on here!

      [–]Aureus[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

      Works for me! I have one at /s/Activism, but do you think I should make another one specifically for this?

      [–]forgottenpasswordguy 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

      I think it'd work out better to keep it in activism, it wont get enough views if we get too specific! Anyways I just subbed to s/activism

      [–]Aureus[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      Awesome, thanks!

      [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      Using SaidIt's wiki feature is also an option.

      [–][deleted] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

      Ive been boycotting these companies all my life,

      always pirate entertainment, and buy no name stuff

      my savings account is high because of this

      [–]Aureus[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      Awesome! So much entertainment can be had for free online, and I'm with you on buying no-name stuff. I actually prefer generics now.

      Btw, I'm trying to ask everyone this, but have you considered joining the chatroom I linked above? It would be a great place to keep in contact and further discuss the boycott. If you're not interested, that's okay, I also have a sub at /s/Activism that can be used (although it will probably be slower).

      [–]jet199 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      This is part of the problem with organizing a boycott online, many people here won't be using the most woke companies anyway.

      [–]sadocgawkroger 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

      Definitely Facebook and Google?

      [–]Aureus[S] 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

      I agree with Google, everyone should be minimizing Google usage as much as possible.

      I have a different take on social networks though. Boycotting them is basically self-censorship, which is obviously counterproductive. Instead, I recommend boycotting their advertisers. This does depend on the platform though - I actually think Facebook is one of the better ones (although you have to be very careful with their privacy violations)

      What are your thoughts on this?

      [–]sadocgawkroger 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

      "Boycotting them is basically self-censorship." - a very interesting take! I never thought of it that way. Maybe dealing with privacy will just be a matter of using an alternative account and some proxies/adblockers/etc.?

      [–]Aureus[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

      Maybe dealing with privacy will just be a matter of using an alternative account and some proxies/adblockers/etc.?

      This could work. Honestly, people should be using pseudonyms on the Internet wherever possible. Adblockers are always a great idea, although it's important to dismiss them on sites that you value.

      Btw, I'm trying to ask everyone this, but have you considered joining the chatroom I linked above? It would be a great place to keep in contact and further discuss the boycott. If you're not interested, that's okay, I also have a sub at /s/Activism (although it will probably be slower).

      [–]sadocgawkroger 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

      I'll be joining the chatroom thanks for the heads up!

      [–]Aureus[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      Awesome, hope to see you there! I'm still trying to get it set up so let me know if you have any issues.

      [–]Sscratchie 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      If you want privacy and anonymity on the net use Tor and Protonmail. You don't have to use it all the time. It's your secret identity.

      [–]suckitreddit 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      If you want to boycott Facebook, and Google try:

      Minds (social media). Gab (social media). Qwant (search). Brave Browser. Protonmail (e-mail). Mega (storage).

      [–]sadocgawkroger 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      Oh and Starbucks.

      [–]zeusdx1118 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

      Netflix is the worst honestly. Every show is heavily extreme left value pushing now.

      Remember in Sabrina when the boys didn't want a pre-op underage girl/trans-boy, who liked boys and was only trans by her own proclamation, showering in the restroom or being naked with them? And sure they were complete assholes about it. They shouldn't have pulled her pants down to call her out. She shouldn't have been allowed in there with them in the first place though.

      So what happened? Sabrina gave her some shoe laces which were literally cursed with black devil-magic witchcraft and she took them and tripped one of the boys down the stairs splitting his leg open in a bloody mess, like the little psycho she really was. And how did it end? She ultimately bullied them into accepting a girl proclaiming to be gay boy so she could shower with them, all while Netflix pushed the notion that she was the good guy through the whole story.

      [–]happysmash27 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

      Was it really Netflix pushing it, or just the author that Netflix decided to publish the work of?

      My perspective on this is completely different. I am gay, and, well, have absolutely been terrified of communal nudity like that since even before I came out to myself, since I got erections looking at my own naked body and was embarrassed by that, and also was terrified at being rather perverted by looking at the naked bodies of others I was attracted to (and maybe perhaps at being revealed as gay, which I wasn't sure if I was or not at the time). I also support trans people, so… my opinion on this is to not have communal showers at all. The same problem of attraction there exists regardless of whether one is transgender or not.

      [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

      I am gay, and, well, have absolutely been terrified of communal nudity like that since even before I came out to myself, since I got erections looking at my own naked body and was embarrassed

      WTF! is this a troll LOL?

      [–]happysmash27 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

      No, not at all. This has been my actual experience.

      [–]zeusdx1118 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

      Was it really Netflix pushing it, or just the author that Netflix decided to publish the work of?

      It was Netflix. This wasn't just one show. This has been their entire supply of entertainment lately.

      The same problem of attraction there exists regardless of whether one is transgender or not.

      Yeah but this was not about a gay male student being in the boys locker room. This was about allowing a pre-op, trans-by-title-alone, male liking, girl into the boys communal showers. Let's not distract from that. You're convoluting it.

      Ok so let's have this talk.

      This was not even an adult, who in complete mental and physical maturity decided to go forward with the operation and become a real trans person of (as close as they could be) the opposite sex. This was a child, using nothing but title to identify as trans (through gender alone), making an issue out of not being allowed in the high school locker room with boys, and then violently lashing out with physical harm to bully others into getting her way.

      In support of real trans people (transexuals) who go through all the steps to identify as the opposite sex, the argument here still stands. These issues are not about gender. They're about sex. That is where the line is.

      Gender has nothing to do with the issue here. No one cares about "transgender" peoples' gender roles, hypermasculine/hyperfeminine facades thrown up out of insecurity, or personal identity perceptions. Nobody wants these people wandering around in the wrong locker room just because they're insecure with their own bodies. That's not an excuse to put the general public's sense of safety and security second. Gender is a concept. It is not a tangible element to base something off of, unlike sex.

      Genderdysphoria is classified as a mental disorder, and therefore is for all legal and medical purposes a case of delusion. To make the issue even more transparent, if it weren't considered a mental disorder, there'd be no legal reason to accommodate it at all. To go even further, while disability laws require businesses and such to accommodate the disabled, those accommodations are only required to be reasonable for the business or such to provide, and forsaking the general public as a cost in doing so is not reasonable.

      [–]jet199 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      No the same problems don't exist.

      In the UK a trans boy (female) managed bully her school into letting her change with the boys and she got sexually assaulted.

      And if a teenage girl gets pregnant in that situation that's her life over, a boy in that situation doesn't have that to worry about as well as everything else.

      Why do you think things were separated by sex in the first place and do you think those reasons don't exist anymore?

      [–]Blackbrownfreestuff 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

      Hulu is joint venture owned by disney and comcast

      [–]dac 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

      I don't think I spend any money on those. So this was easy.

      [–]Aureus[S] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

      Good to hear it! You should check out the provided links though. There are a lot of companies engaging in this unfortunately, way more than I listed.

      Have you considered joining the chatroom I linked btw? I'm trying to get people involved beyond the lifespan of this one thread. Boycotts don't work well unless you have a lot of people participating in them over a long period of time, and I'm hoping the chatroom can help organize that.

      [–]dac 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

      I don't really spend any money at all except on food and rent.

      [–]Aureus[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      There's a lot of food companies that support propaganda or censorship. Even if you don't support them, you can always help others with the boycott, by identifying bad companies, or spreading news about them so others can avoid them. Would you be interested in helping out with that?

      [–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

      Hulu & Netflix but not Amazon? At least that leaves one streaming service though I usually hear bad things about Amazon as well.

      [–]Aureus[S] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

      Amazon is definitely there. Keep in mind this is a very limited list; it's mostly the worst offenders that immediately sprung to mind. I could really use your help in compiling a fuller list, and ranking companies from best to worst. Would you be able to lend a hand?

      [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      I doubt I know enough to be helpful all I know about are usual suspects like Nestle & Coca Cola who are quite mainstream in their issues.

      [–]Arapaho_Joe 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

      Add Gap Inc

      [–]Aureus[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

      I believe it, but what have they done?

      [–]Arapaho_Joe 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

      Judge for yourself, https://www.gapinc.com/en-us/articles/2020/06/our-commitments-a-culture-of-belonging.
      My biggest issues with them:
      Black Lives Matter is a racist slogan. yet they tout it constantly since the Floyd murder.
      This year they're focusing on "get out the vote" for blacks and latino because they want to get rid of Trump.
      Supporting vote by mail (fraud)
      All hypocrisy, because the majority of their clothing made in China and Vietnam by slave laborers.

      How do I know this? I have a family member that works in their corp offices.

      [–]Aureus[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

      Companies engaging in GOTV campaigns for Democrats is a deal-breaker for me. Thanks for letting me know.

      Have you considered joining the Matrix chatroom I linked above btw? You sound like you know your stuff and I could use your help. If you're not interested in that though, I have a sub at /s/Activism you might be interested in. But I'm hoping the chatroom will gather enough people to get a real boycott going.

      [–]Arapaho_Joe 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

      I'll subscribe to the /s/activism, I'm not much for chatrooms, however I'd like to learn more about how to use Riot.

      [–]jet199 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

      In the UK - Tesco, The Body Shop, Lush, Lloyds TSB group, Flora margarine, Starbucks, Marks and Spencer, John Lewis, Primark, Corporation of London.

      Companies to support - Bannatyne Gyms, Centre Parcs

      Edit: also avoid the big charity pushes and give to individual charities where you know how they are run. The national lottery, comic relief and children in need all give to some pretty terrible smaller charities just because they are woke.

      [–]zyxzevn 2 insightful - 4 fun2 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 4 fun -  (4 children)

      Shouldn't we help some of the companies to become more extreme?

      Like:
      reddit should be renamed to blackit or blackthey as "gender neutral". Red is racist term for Native indians.

      [–]kilo 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

      LOL. If you posted that on that abortion of a website they would probably change the name

      [–]Aureus[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

      I actually thought about this. I was considering starting a petition to rename Yale to "George Floyd University". I think even for most leftists, that would be a bridge too far.

      However, there is always the risk that those on the left will actually do it and accept it as normal.

      Do you have any other thoughts on this? And have you considered joining the matrix chatroom linked above?

      [–]zyxzevn 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      I like the "George Floyd University"..
      That really makes me "proud'.

      [–]Dragonerne 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      Actually, historically red refers to nordics.

      It also refers to "Adam", the name means "to be red" in hebrew.
      https://www.behindthename.com/name/adam

      Benjamin Franklin said: "Why increase the sons of Africa, by planting them in America, where we have so fair an opportunity, by excluding all blacks and tawnys, or increasing the lovely white and red?"

      White and red refer to nordics and anglo-saxons. Communists have subverted this. They've done the same with "Native Americans" that used to mean what we today call WASPs.

      [–]mathiasprime 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

      Honestly that list will keep growing until it's all the companies.

      [–]Cratis 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

      Defund the Media. Defund Woke Capital.

      [–]Aureus[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      I'm down. Have you considered joining the Matrix chatroom I linked above?

      If not there's always my sub at /s/Activism, but I think the chatroom would be an easier way to keep in touch

      [–]happysmash27 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

      What do Netflix and Apple do bad here? I'm already avoiding paying them money for other reasons (both Apple and Netflix have restrictive DRM that I oppose, and Apple is terrible in right to repair), but am curious what they do particularly badly on this side, and if it is relevant to my values. I simultaneously support social justice, while also heavily opposing the current censorship-ridden, ridiculously intolerant, unnecessarily divisive, and often even discriminatory implementation of it.

      Edit: Looking at the list:

      Apple—a “racial justice initiative,” details to come—$100 million.

      The details are the only thing I care about, so if there are no details, it means nothing to me.

      I don't see anything about Netflix in this first list.

      Edit: From https://conservativeus.com/the-full-list-here-are-the-269-companies-who-are-supporting-blm-antifa-riots/:

      Trump and members of his administration have singled out Antifa as being responsible for the violence at protests triggered by the killing of Floyd.

      1. Singling out a single cause for this violence seems very dubious to me.

      2. Being from the Trump administration doesn't help. I don't trust Trump at all, though am a bit more neutral to the rest of his administration.

      Little is known about who funds Antifa activists, or how the groups get their resources.

      Funds… to do what, exactly? What do members of antifa need to be funded for?

      Antifa is not a single organization, and therefore, financial details, if any exist, are murky.

      Finally one of these articles mention that antifa is not a single organisation! It's annoying when people talk about them as if they are.

      But after all many companies decided to step up and publicly support the riots that BLM and Antifa are organizing through America.

      I don't necessarily oppose this, depending on the details. Not all of the protests are riots, and some of the police violence has been pretty senseless.

      Aha! Here is the statement from Netflix!

      To be silent is to be complicit. Black lives matter.

      We have a platform, and we have a duty to our Black members, employees, creators and talent to speak up.

      This is a very vague statement, and not one I feel is worth boycotting over yet. Unlike companies like Reddit, Netflix has not said anything to imply that all the other lives don't matter.

      TBH, I have seen for myself them do something a bit more annoying: The highlighting black representation in the children's section on Netflix. I feel that this somewhat promotes racism by implying to children that a divide exists between the black and white, and someone I know originally not from the US similarly feels that this is not something that belongs in the children's section of Netflix. The best implementation of race I have seen is in the Pokemon series Sun & Moon, where race is such a nonexistant factor that upon seeing someone with the same character model as Professor Oak but with a much darker skin colour, they actually mistake one for the other. This other character is Principal Oak, and is related to Professor Oak. This is how I feel race should be approached: as something that doesn't exist, rather than something to bring attention to. Although there may be some statistical differences between "races", there are also many mixed race people who don't fall into any of them, and as more and more people mix together, I feel that race shouldn't be focused on so much. Plus, races are already somewhat blended in many cases.

      Apple's atatement, linked here seems to be specifically from Apple Music:

      On Tuesday, June 2nd, Apple Music will observe Black Out Tuesday. We will use this day to reflect and plan actions to support Black artists, Black creators, and Black communities. #TheShowMustBePaused #BlackLivesMatter

      I'm not sure what Black Out Tuesday is, but I'm guessing it's either a spineless logo change, or blocking people from playing music to "raise awareness" or something. If it is blocking people from playing music, I oppose this music service due to it not only having the power to do that, but also actually taking advantage if it. This goes back to my stance against DRM: I will boycott practically any company that can take back any digital content I have purchased, but especially will boycott them of they will take it back. Such an action would be a violation of trust. I don't oppose the goal; I just hate the implementation. If you want to do something, maybe implement blind hiring practices (where one only sees metrics related to performance, rather than race), or even boycott taxes (because the police are corrupt, and taxes pay the police), bit don't deny music to innocents. "Awareness" campaigns like this would be dumb (if they are doing it), and will likely turn people like me who would otherwise support it away from the movement.

      [–]Dragonerne 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      Unlike companies like Reddit, Netflix has not said anything to imply that all the other lives don't matter.

      Have you seen their products? They're super woke and anti-white.

      Once you see it, it's impossible to unsee it. I haven't watched anything from them in years.
      Just one example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VS08cWZrlQA

      [–]EY_SCOOF 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

      Yes PLEASE. Anons bitch and cry about everything instead of actually boycotting these post modernists.

      OneAngryGamer made a list of these companies as well, OP, you might wanna use that to make your list.

      [–]wuzizname 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

      Couple of things you can do, one is to install a Pi-Hole on your network so you'll never see their ads ever again and to block big data tracking your every keystroke online. It connects to your router so all traffic goes through it on every device. Also invest in a good VPN service and run it at the router level as well to mask your IP.

      Do your best to invest in local small business whenever you can - buy season tickets at the local live theatre, go to junior league games or watch College ball, the players still care about the game and aren't millionaire crybabies.

      Hollywood is trash but there is a limitless supply of pre-existing entertainment, watch the Carol Burnett show, All in the Family..shows from the past 20 years are free almost everywhere to watch now. Movies from the 70s were awesome (Dog Day Afternoon for example is a great film, the Good the Bad and the Ugly is another. These movies may seem "slow" and dragged out because you've been accustomed to watching film that has a cut every 3 seconds).

      Buy a shaving kit with a proper razor and by refills only for the razor and not the handle. There are phones coming out which run on a Linux backbone, or you can hack your phones and install custom OSes (eg Lineage OS).

      [–]Aureus[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

      Thank you. This is all excellent advice.

      Could you repost this to /s/Activism? It'd be great to have your input.

      [–]wuzizname 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

      Just take it and paste it wherever you like... honestly most of what is here I didn't think of myself I learned it from others.

      Follow up on the Pi-Hole, I've been running for about a month and it blocks around 25% of my total internet traffic. So if you think of it this way - 25% of your bandwidth is dedicated to serving you ads, tracking what you're doing and sending data about you to places you didn't know were collecting it. Oddly enough, the biggest offender is my Samsung smart TV, it attempts to send data about I don't know what at least 100 times per day. Microsoft and Amazon are the other 2 biggest offenders but not close to Samsung.

      [–]Aureus[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

      Oddly enough, the biggest offender is my Samsung smart TV, it attempts to send data about I don't know what at least 100 times per day.

      That's pretty freaky.

      Do you have any links or guides to making a Pi-Hole?

      [–]wuzizname 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      Just google pi hole tutorial there’s a bunch of good ones out there. Really easy to set up if you follow the steps.

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        [–]Aureus[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        Thanks!

        Have you considered joining the chatroom linked above? If not I may start a sub about this, what is your input?

        [–]Jesus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        Israel too!

        [–]CelFon 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

        What about Wikipedia? They had several controversies recently.
        Just my two cents.

        [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

        what happened with wikipedia?

        [–]CelFon 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

        Co-founder Larry Sanger confirmed leftism bias on Wikipedia.

        Also see this.

        [–]Aureus[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        Great point. I'm considering Infogalactic as a replacement.

        [–]bald-janitor 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        I currently have 0 product from them. I have Android, always buy Adidas, no gillette products etc

        [–]BreedersMustDie 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

        Don't just boycott them. Forbid others from purchasing them. The myth of "freedom of choice" needs to die.

        [–]zeusdx1118 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        Whaaa???

        [–]BreedersMustDie 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        Boycott the Eagles as long as DeSean Jackson is on it.

        [–]neovulcan 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        So, Disney's never really been 'woke' until recently. If anything, the 'woke' line is damage control for their cartoons against blacks, jews, indians, asians, and pretty much anything you can think of. Here's the first link I found googling but I'm sure there's plenty of better examples. Now, I disagree with the 'woke' stance, even for Disney, but I'm highlighting them as having an actual reason, as it appears the rest of your list is just virtue-signaling for what I can only assume are marketing reasons.

        Cartoons by their very nature are an exaggeration of reality. All features are exaggerated, not just the racist ones. If we replaced all the characters with stick figures, we'd still get some woke SJW complaining that stick figures are fat-shaming.

        in the case of, say, Netflix, their product isn't categorically woke, so there's wiggle room to choose titles appropriately. If people aren't making it through an entire woke series, Netflix's algorithm should start sorting these garbage narratives to the bottom. If it isn't already, I'll submit Star Trek: Discovery as a prime example. That show is objectively bad even if you're of the woke mindset, and completely abysmal if you're not.

        Nike is an easy boycott, even if it weren't for the woke narrative. The company was founded by a coach who crafted special shoes for his athletes, yet it's been taken over by people who make capitalism look evil. Exploitation of cheap labor in foreign countries, passive-aggressive judging for not having the same foot as your favorite athlete, high margins compared with craftsmanship...all without addressing the woke narrative. That's an easy boycott.

        Even before COVID, professional sports were a bubble just waiting to be popped. Sure, an NFL game is better than your local high school game, but is it really hundreds of dollars better for that seat in the stadium? It wouldn't surprise me if the number of people realizing they're overpaying for things related to professional is increasing, and the woke narrative is just a hail mary to save the industry.

        [–]Iam1ofMany 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

        We really need a non political leader to come out and push this agenda. I know it is up to us in the end but you really need someone in the public eye to say "Look, these companies are doing more harm then good and if you want it to stop then you need to stop using them.".

        [–]Aureus[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

        I think you have a point, except I disagree this needs a leader. IMO it should be anonymous and grassroots. It should have some bipartisan support though. Even a group of Trump-hating liberals recently signed a letter against cancel culture.

        [–]Iam1ofMany 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

        I wasn't meaning it as some leader to take us to the promise land or anything like that, I was meaning like a leader to just put it out there so more people would start talking about it. I just don't think enough people are even considering doing it. If you had someone with a voice to the public make some sort of announcement like that it would get more people thinking about it.

        [–]Dragonerne 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

        With a "non political leader" you mean a leftist.

        [–]CarlDung 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

        What's good alternative to Netflix? I'm not interested in torrenting