In fairness to Israel...

submitted by JasonCarswell from self.propaganda

Sunday nights Viva and Barnes go through various topics of the week. After an interesting breakdown on how the Geneva Conventions are being systematically destroyed by lopsided respect for rules of war in the Ukraine-Russia conflict, lawyer Robert Barnes, a supporter of Israel, Trump, and believer in the justice system but otherwise level-headed and insightful, provided some heavy food for thought.

In fairness to Israel, we need to question deeper for greater contextual understanding of all media that reaches us - both pro-Palestine and pro-Israel.

Notably Barnes explains more details surrounding the recent journalist's funeral attack by police, claiming it is a false flag. (I shared that story a couple days ago.) Even if all he says is is true, it never excuses excessive use of police force or the monopoly on violence that all mafia governments exercise.

I still despise all authority, manipulation, deception, coercion, theft, violence, and mass murder - including the rigged corrupt excessive Zionist representation in the ruling class and media, the obscene gifted "aid" to Israel, their war-hawk ideology, and the atrocities carried out in our names by our bought-and-paid-for "leaders".

In my opinion, just like "terrorists" resort to extreme means to get attention in unfair circumstances, they are equally justified to weaponize the media in return with "false flags" that gain support for their causes. Personally though, I'd want to counter-message with truth rather than lies verses lies. Also of note, the criticisms Barnes pins on this Palestinian event spin not only apply to most of Israeli propaganda but all media in general. But at least this is a respectably strong argument from global Zionist enemies that is well worth understanding in order to better debate against it. Also note that Zionists have infiltrated and controlled the "bad [Palestinian] political leadership" as with every other region.

Specifically, please watch Barnes insights on this event from 36:42 to 52:43...

Ep. 113: WHO Treaty; Israel-Palestine; Dominion; Mules AND MORE! Viva & Barnes LIVE! (2:06:28) ~ Viva Frei, 2022-05-15

Also, as usual, the rest of the show included very good /s/PoliticalAnalysis.

 

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[–]Canbot 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I like these guys. Very intelligent, even if the guy on the right is hypocritical about his own bias and gullibility.

Thanks for posting.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (15 children)

You're omitting a great part of the context, which is:

What Israel is doing to the Palestinians, and their encroachment on Palestinian territories is WRONG. It is wrong morally, ethically, legally, and more. What does Israel care about public opinion? Barnes is delusional. The kikes decided the "Greater Israel" has to be theirs and they will genocide all the inhabitants of whatever amount of territory they decide is part of that, and the USA, UN, and most of world will just SHRUG.

So yeah, there might be false flags, sure. Terrorism? Yep. These people have two options: die as victims or die as fighters. And literally NOBODY is coming to their help. God knows I am no fan of arab primitives, but I always side on the side of objectivity.

[–]JasonCarswell[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (14 children)

You're missing the point.

Obviously the state of Israel is evil. That context is not lost.

False flags, lies, and deception are not tools we can win with, morally, ethically, factually, or practically. That is the point. This also include repeating misinformation without greater contextual understanding, even and especially if it is convenient to do so in the moment as it costs in the long run. The ends never justify the means.

I'd rather die on my feet shouting truth, than live on my knees spouting falsehoods.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (13 children)

These arab primitives don't have anything else. What do you think they should do?

[–]JasonCarswell[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (9 children)

I understand Palestinians don't have much else.

I understand truth-seekers don't have much else.

I understand the greedy few have more resources than the many.

I understand the greedy few have the monopoly on violence.

We must resist resorting to corrupting ourselves via the many slippery slopes.

False flags, lies, and deception are not tools we can win with, morally, ethically, factually, or practically. That is the point.

The ends does not justify the means.

They get rich and all they want is to be richer. Chasing the dragon they leave suffering and corpses no matter how many awards and accolades they give themselves.

How we behave on the journey is more important than the ephemeral destination.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (8 children)

I agree... However you seem to have missed the part where we are not arab primitives. These higher moral standards don't have much fertile grounds on lands where pedophilia is sanctioned by religion and tradition.

[–]JasonCarswell[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Your broad generalizing can easily be weaponized against our own "non-primitive Western culture" where the masses here are traditionally ruled by sanctioned pedophiles, among many many many other evils.

Cast not stones in glass houses lest they bounce off and hit you back in the face.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

The drops of water.. only drops of water gently applied can hole a stone without it breaking. You're implementing sound advice.

[–]HiddenAgendas 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

I love your insight on the Jews but where are you finding pedophilia Sactioned in Islam?

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

Muhammad married a 6-year-old girl and allegedly waited until she was 9 to rape her.

[–]HiddenAgendas 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Where in the Quran does it state that? I couldn't find it anywhere. https://youtube.com/c/TheMuslimSkeptic

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Yeah, yeah. I've heard it all before... "but the book doesn't say that" or "but the practicioners don't do that" or "yeah but that's not how it's interpreted by the REAL (so and so)" etc etc etc ad nauseam.

There are suddenly plenty of muslims in Europe and suddenly the number of rapes of minors (and adults) is skyrocketing. And that's not written in the Great Book of Muslim Bullshit either.

[–]HiddenAgendas 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Where's your reputable source(s) proving or showing that Muslims support pedophilia? Still responding in arrogance is typical mainstream media shit that i'm shocked to find on this platform. Using bullshit statistics from Europe that were fabbed up by some jewish owned news outlet(s) is even more baffling. Islam is the only undistorted religion and is lasted through imperialism, they must be SO primitive XD. Only bullshit here is you bashing Arabs, Islam, and silently claiming superiority. You're contradicted your superiorit by resulting to insults instead of ACTUALLY refuting anything I've said with evidence.

[–]HiddenAgendas 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Keep deleting my comments you faggots.

[–]HiddenAgendas 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

These "Arab primitives" you speak of have the last un-distorted religion. They believe in One god, believe in tradtional values, and have conservative stand-points. The Jews have fucked every other religion in existance. All of this is written in the Quran; and has warned Muslims since the begining of Islam about jews and their trickery. How does a "primitive" being follow a religion that debunks atheist, budhist, hindus, and any fake religion that worships deitys.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

LOL the Jews CREATED Islam as a weapon against Christianity. It isn't corrupted as a religion, it is CORRUPTION ITSELF. It isn't a BAD religion, it is a FAKE religion. Wait, you're an arab primitive too, right?

[–]HiddenAgendas 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

LOL that is some jewish propogands in it's own. Where are you reading this? What makes a religion 'fake' in your persepective? Elaborate. Is that supposed to be an insult? Arabs created the algebra that's used to solve the most complex algorithms XD. No one claimed I was Arab, I just wanted to know what you have against them; ends up that you follow the typical narrative.