"Critics are men who watch a battle from a high place then come down and shoot the survivors." - Hemmingway

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[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 4 fun4 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 4 fun -  (3 children)

"Analysts are men that watch many battles, but fight to achieve victory without shooting"

~S0m Qu0te dude lol

[–]Vigte[S] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Not far from the truth of the human future, really

I'll make sure your amendment to Hemmingway gets proper citation!

[–]beermeem 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

“The supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting.”

Let your plans be dark and impenetrable as night, and when you move, fall like a thunderbolt.

[–]beermeem 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

He would know. He fought in wars, killed himself, had very fuckable daughters, and remains the only American writer worth a shit besides Ellis.

[–]beermeem 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

Critics are women.

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

So at a bikini contest, women are their own worst enemies?

[–]Tom_Bombadil 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Hemingway was a left extremist who fought on the side of the socialist, Communists and anarchists; against the fascists.
The FBI spied on him for decades.

Why intellectuals like Hemingway got involved in the Spanish Civil War

The Republicans had elected a Socialist president, and were fighting against a military coup.

The recent Catalonian Independence movement is part of the legacy of the Spanish civil war, and it's being suppressed again by "elected" fascists.

A significant percentage of the Catalan public are anarchists, but you'll never hear that reported anywhere.

I think Hemingway understood something that most of us have been brainwashed into forgetting.

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I feel bad for Hemmingway. He killed himself because he was depressed (which he didn't realize that on it's own, he could handle), and didn't realize his personal Hell could always burn hotter, and Electroshock Therapy was advertised as the new, true treatment for depression. Obviously he unfortunately didn't put enough thought into (or didn't have the access to research) the potential affects of such therapy, what epileptics go through, the potential affects of seizures (even just one), and what extreme or radical psychological therapies of his near-distant past (such as lobotomies..) resulted in, and what they originally promised to do.. He put way too much trust in doctors; to this day, electroshock therapy is banned in some European countries because the data on it doing more harm than good is sketchy at best, and everyone's brain is unique.

After receiving his first induced-seizure, he was never the same, and this is what lead to him killing himself. Seizures and epilepsy are very stigmatized and misunderstood:

"Ernest Hemingway, an American author, died by suicide shortly after ECT at the Mayo Clinic in 1961.[127] He is reported to have said to his biographer, "Well, what is the sense of ruining my head and erasing my memory, which is my capital, and putting me out of business? It was a brilliant cure but we lost the patient."

The feeling of his "capital", or his mental faculties being taken from him, is a symptom (short or long-term) of the postictal state after a seizure. Regardless of who he was or what he did, no living being deserves to experience that state of being, and so strongly that it pushes them to suicide.