EPIC quote by Stephen L. Carter, Professor Of Law, Yale University...

submitted by JasonCarswell from self.quotes

" On the opening day of law school, I always counsel my first-year students never to support a law they are not willing to kill to enforce. Usually they greet this advice with something between skepticism and puzzlement, until I remind them that the police go armed to enforce the will of the state, and if you resist, they might kill you. "

~ Stephen L. Carter, Professor Of Law, Yale University.

Taking away guns for a monopoly on violence ensures that only criminals will have guns - the corrupt authorities who use them all the time and those few on occasion who don't give a shit about their laws.

Discovered via this article posted yesterday:
/s/canada/comments/4axu/4_reasons_canadians_should_reject_the_gun_ban/

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[–][deleted] 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

It always amazes me how many people don’t understand that law and law enforcement are inherently authoritarian concepts. Necessary concepts, yes, but still authoritarian ones.

The tendency to want to impose legal restrictions as solutions to all manner of problems is a fairly recent development. And in my opinion, a result of increasingly narcissistic societies that fail to comprehend the long term consequences that even seemingly inconsequential laws can have.

[–]JasonCarswell[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

"Necessary" is a monsterous grey area that gets smaller towards minarchism.

I might buy into the tyranny of democracy if the masses were actually allowed to weight in on all those laws that were written by the corrupt fuckers that fucked up shit all the way to the top (or their ancestors did) of the corrupt fucked up system.

Death by a million paper laws. Great insight on the "narcissistic societies". IMO, "civilization" is a myth for the upper middle class, who, for the most part, try to maintain it. The poor can't afford it and the rich can't afford to pay attention to it.

I do like some of the weird old laws. In NYC it's illegal to have ice cream in your pocket. Apparently it was a tactic of horse thieves. Not sure how true that is.

[–]NoahWebstersGhost 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

"...but him who does no evil voluntarily I praise and love; - not even the gods war against necessity." - Plato

[–]jeffmassy 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

I've seen similar sentiments probably originating from this guy that said simliar. Basically every law is a death threat because at some point:

  1. Refuse the law.
  2. Refuse the court.
  3. Police come to take you.
  4. Refuse apprehension, they use force.
  5. Fight off/Send away police. They send swat.
  6. Defend/fight swat they kill you or send the army.
  7. Army kills you.

[–]JasonCarswell[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I love happy endings. /s

You missed the part about the glories of jail.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Thanks man.

[–]manumilitari 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

The police can kill you not because you didn't respect a law (you receive a ticket for that in most cases, nobody is killing you for not doing your stop while driving) but because you became a threat to the organization that is supposed to maintain order.

Maybe that law teacher should try to stick to law and not psychology etc...

[–]C3P0 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

It seems you still agree with the professor that armed men will kill you for not obeying the law.

[–]JasonCarswell[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Alleged threat.