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[–][deleted] 10 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

women have always been the primary victims of anything they find convenient at the time.

It's men going off to war and getting killed, not women.

What about the body count on the Clinton family, crimes against Haiti, and so-forth. Ordinary people have been the primary victims of the Clinton Family and its bogus Clinton Foundation.

Who killed Seth Rich?

they chucked her in the van like a side of beef!

[–]RuinedRook 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Being on the campaign trail without her twice-a-day dose of adrenaline saturated baby blood really took a toll on the old crone.

[–]plaid 7 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

Hilary Clinton has always been a cunt.

[–]Lostcarkeys 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Cuntz have depth, warmth and charm. Hillary possesses none of these traits.

I think of her as a ghoul.

[–]Trajan 6 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 3 fun -  (4 children)

In pointing out the obvious, that men die in far larger numbers than women in wars, feminists will argue that it's men starting wars. That's a bit like hating cars because they are a feature of every car accident, ignoring the benefits we get from the very features of cars that make them at times dangerous. War and aggression come as part of the package. Remove the mechanism that lead to aggression and it's goodbye to the benefits that come from them. Of course they could simply neuter Western males and then act entirely surprised when non-Western males exploit this weakness and enjoy themselves some raping and pillaging.

[–]just_lesbian_things 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

War and aggression come as part of the package.

That's like saying explosive diarrhea and taking a shit come as a package. Aggression and defecation is a normal part of any human's life, but war and explosive diarrhea indicates a loss of control. It is not inevitable, and you should not treat it as such.

feminists will argue that it's men starting wars. That's a bit like hating cars because they are a feature of every car accident, ignoring the benefits we get from the very features of cars that make them at times dangerous

Unlike cars in the 21st century, all the "benefits" of war can be gained through more efficient means.

Of course they could simply neuter Western males and then act entirely surprised when non-Western males exploit this weakness and enjoy themselves some raping and pillaging

I suppose we can start neutering all males (Incoming hurt male feelings in 3... 2...)

[–]Trajan 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

You missed the point. It’s not that negative consequences are desirable. It is a consequence of the underlying drives that ensure no cat lady need worry about having to live in ditch.

[–]just_lesbian_things 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

ensure no cat lady need worry about having to live in ditch

There's no link between cat ladies living in ditches and war. If I had to stated a correlation, I'd say war is more likely to cause people, including cat ladies, to live in ditches. Again, you assume war to be an inevitable product of "aggression", but it isn't. It's a weak mental crutch you're using to justify shit to yourself, like a bitter divorcé droning on about the inevitability of divorce.

Moreover, I'd say there's no direct link between aggression and the living situation of cat ladies either. You overvalue aggressive behavior. Quality of life has more to do with discipline and human ingenuity. We don't have a resource shortage, we have a self-control problem. Disaster planning tells you to behave in a calm and collected manner, not Hulk out and aggressively shove other people out of the way.

[–]Trajan 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

No, I’m not arguing that war is the inevitable result of aggression. Show me where you think I said that.

Also, I’m not stating aggression as the root of all that is good. I said ‘underlying drives’. This would include competitiveness, concern for kin and the tribe, curiosity, willingness to take risks, and aggression in many forms.

The feminist social constructionist view posits an embarrassingly simplified view of society in which masculinity can be reengineered away to make Male and female interchangeable in abilities and drives. Men take the risks, do the dirty jobs, defend, and develop most of the technologies that make life pleasant. Women will not magically want to do these things unless they have to (e.g. the gender equality paradox). Turn men in to women, in an effort to eliminate the bad actions of a minority, then say goodbye to the safest and most equitable societies the world has ever seen.

Edit: gender equality paradox, not gender paradox

[–]Soloninja 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Poor men can't even be a victim anymore

[–]Dragonerne 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Feminists deserve equal treatment in war.

[–]Canbot 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Before feminism popularized insanity this kind of absurdity was considered satire. Now it is entirely plausible that she said it unironically. Clown world indeed.

[–]Bud223 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Anyone not fighting and dying are secondary victims of war. She couldn't speak truth to save her life.

[–]at_finn 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

[–]Tom_Bombadil 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)